The emotional side of Mastership

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Ohanasvib -> The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 12:33:58 PM)
A slave's acceptance, (The pivot point) As a Master, one may think you grab a woman with a fist full of hair and drive her into submission whether it be sexual or BDSM and she is to perform to unrealistic expectations. The reality could not be farther from the truth... At least foe me. It truly begins with a relationship filled with love, respect and TRUST, in time, it is the responsibility of the sub/slave to offer her self in service or as possession, I call this the pivotal point of the total power exchange. Newbie Dom/Masters commonly miss this or deny this in haste as a means to .... well you know the rest... Short term or casual play is one thing BUT, accepting the slave and the responsibility for her also means fulfilling her emotional needs, this is not a small milestone. Before you say, "but she is a slave, she has no rights to feelings.". To you I say Wake up ! Is she less than a dog ?even a dog has feelings, she may be a slave in her heart, she may long to serve but when she is happily and emotionally secure and invested she is then free with the power to serve beyond your dreams and desires. Taking responsibility for her is to accept full responsibility for her heart and happiness. You think you are going to keep an unfulfilled and unhappy woman because you can overpower her? Your life will be miserable because she is. Remember who is in charge and controlling the future. Be a real Master! Yes domination is a part, but it is equally balanced with important fulfillment of her needs. Will she serve without it? Perhaps, for a while. The question is, "is she serving because it is a part of who she is and overbearing shallow dominance is forced at the time? Or is it love from the depths of her soul. Remember this, when she is in her zone of fulfilled emotional needs you will receive her gifts beyond all expectations. My happiness as Master starts with my responsibility to her for both of us.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 12:36:40 PM)
Glad YOUR perspective works for YOU. Not everyone or every situation/relationship will be the same.

Ohanasvib -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 1:04:39 PM)
Great post, you may have outdone your self with a brilliant post. You could copy and paste that to every topic on this board as well as every board on the Internet. All the best

littlewonder -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 1:41:32 PM)
sorry, a little too flowery and frilly for me It reminds of me a harlequin romance Not my style

myotherself -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 1:56:03 PM)
Not really my thing, but whatever floats your boat.

OsideGirl -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 1:57:04 PM)
Actually, I agree with Orion. Your approach may work for you, but I know people that have a contracted agreement where there isn't a romance....and they're perfectly happy.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 2:10:03 PM)
I think for a committed emotional relationship, the perspective you have makes a lot of sense. But of course there are many people who would define their D/s situation differently, or would even define "relationship" differently. I think the important thing is that you know what, specifically, you seek from a D/s relationship, and to search for someone who shares the same vision. I do like your sentiment that your happiness as a Master starts with your responsibility to her for both of you. It's not a bad starting point for a Dominant to think in terms of responsibility.

IrishMist -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 2:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Glad YOUR perspective works for YOU. Not everyone or every situation/relationship will be the same. This.

Kana -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 2:33:43 PM)
quote: but it is equally balanced with important fulfillment of her needs Hmmm, my experience is that most slaves are fulfilled when they can meet his needs. I offer a girl consistency and control. The emotional stuff comes after.

DesFIP -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 2:34:52 PM)
Not to mention that a relationship doesn't begin with love, trust and respect. It begins with very low expectations and slowly grows.

monoPupil -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM)
Can any of you ever give constructive feedback, or all you all just into bashing each other and feeling empowered by doing so??? I think he is very right in understanding that a slave or submissive whose needs are not looked after, is not a happy one. Surely, for some the needs are to not be allowed any needs... but you must wonder how realistic that is. For a while, fine, for a lifetime, its just not going to last. If it does, well sorry, I think that's called abuse. Even if the slave "agrees" to that fate, it does not mean it's "fine" and it should be totally acceptable as just a different form of relationship. Pedophiles also believe they mean well for the kids they abuse, and it really doesnt harm them all that much... Just because YOU think its ok, doesn't mean it IS ok! Well written, Ohanasvib

OsideGirl -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:09:01 PM)
So, basically we should all just agree when we don't?

Kana -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:14:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: monoPupil Can any of you ever give constructive feedback, or all you all just into bashing each other and feeling empowered by doing so??? I think he is very right in understanding that a slave or submissive whose needs are not looked after, is not a happy one. Surely, for some the needs are to not be allowed any needs... but you must wonder how realistic that is. For a while, fine, for a lifetime, its just not going to last. If it does, well sorry, I think that's called abuse. Even if the slave "agrees" to that fate, it does not mean it's "fine" and it should be totally acceptable as just a different form of relationship. Pedophiles also believe they mean well for the kids they abuse, and it really doesn't harm them all that much... Just because YOU think its ok, doesn't mean it IS ok! Well written, Ohanasvib Close-minded much?

monoPupil -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:15:45 PM)
try looking deeper than the surface perhaps? try looking at yourself critically instead of defending?

Kana -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:29:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: monoPupil try looking deeper than the surface perhaps? try looking at yourself critically instead of defending? Okey-dokeys. In a rare occurence, by request we have a rip your post apart. Can any of you ever give constructive feedback, or all you all just into bashing each other and feeling empowered by doing so??? Sure. We do it all the time. But not when people come on saying pretty much that one way is the right way and other's aren't...ya know...kinda like what you are doing now. I think he is very right in understanding that a slave or submissive whose needs are not looked after, is not a happy one. Interesting choice of words. "I think." Not "I know." Not "I have experienced." Just, "I think." which implies you are speaking out yo ass, talking smack bout something you have zero personal experience with. It also lets us know that we are talking about an opinion...and we all know what those are worth.Surely, for some the needs are to not be allowed any needs... Yeah, like the gal I own and many others on here. but you must wonder how realistic that is No. Not really. Point of fact I never do. Why would I when I can roll over and kiss her or slap her or fucking fist her whenever I want. For a while, fine, for a lifetime, its just not going to last We're over 5 years and running strong. Others here have been together for decades. And besides, it ain't like most nilla relationships have a long shelf life either. If it does, well sorry, I think that's called abuse Well gee, ain't that sweet of you. Funny-she would call it abuse to be in a relationship where he doesn't call the shots, where he doesn't take control. Even if the slave "agrees" to that fate, it does not mean it's "fine" Why not? She's a free American adult of sound mind and will. WTF can't she make determinations about her own life and what makes her happy? And WTF are you to question or judge her decisions, spanky?and it should be totally acceptable as just a different form of relationship.Why not? You make empirical claims with no backing. Make a statement, give it some support, back it up, it ain't tough. You know, it's called how to debate and make a point and be taken seriously by the folks reading it Pedophiles also believe they mean well for the kids they abuse, and it really doesn't harm them all that much Where the hell did this come from.? It's the very worst form of logic and putting it forth as an argument takes away any consideration most might give you. ... Just because YOU think its ok, doesn't mean it IS ok! But since you think it's not acceptable, then that is quite obviously the case...right? Not so Well written, Ohanasvib

IrishMist -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:34:25 PM)
Well Kana, you beat me to it [sm=applause.gif]

Kana -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:37:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist Well Kana, you beat me to it [sm=applause.gif] I was trying to hold back...but when they ask you to rip their post apart it's tough to hold back. Kinda like being a starving wolf watching a cow butcher itself just so it can be consumed. :-)

monoPupil -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:38:34 PM)
yaaawn.....

Kana -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:39:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: monoPupil yaaawn..... Awwww, incapable of going deeper? They make pills for that now, ya know... :-)

monoPupil -> RE: The emotional side of Mastership (2/9/2012 3:43:25 PM)
LOL, you'd love that wouldn't you? I would if there was any point to it.. we can throw insults at each other for hours and we still each will have our own view on it. Why put energy into it?

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