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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 6:54:50 PM   
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I obviously am not going to give my opinions and get involved in this conversation, but let me tell you FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, at least with Bank of America;those loan modification programs and promises of lower rates (when because of self employment when loans start result in 13% interest rates) sounds wonderful, but in reality, getting approved no matter WHAT the legislation says and the chance of it working when you have a homeowner who is talking to a "modification specialist" that does not even know what the correct forms are to send to you, and then denies the modification because the correct paperwork was not filled out, is what in fact happens ALOT. The paperwork that the homeowners(If you can't tell Im one of that group rather recently) that has been sent out about illegal foreclosures is tortuous to understand( and I am a licensed Real Estate Broker) and is not a panacea to someone that lost their home because they followed directions the first time. I would not be suprised if the modification procedure itself has not been modified, so good luck to those trying to even get that bigger amount.

**SOrry for the rant, but, to others, some of the foreclosures happened to people that built their house from the ground up then lived in it 16 years. It was not just people that ran out and willy nilly got loans, and the foreclosure crisis has not just affected "deadbeats". With that I will end my comment, and return you back to your normally schedules programming.

House of Lies comedy on Showcase tv- the first episode- An example of Art imitating Life regarding the whole US bankster housing mortgage debacle. An Advertising agency pitching a new ad strategy for a sleazy bank. This is pretty much how that whole loan modification scam worked.. meaning very few actually got any help at all..
If you watch this episode, you can click forward to the ad pitch at 25 minutes, the ad pitch is about 4 minutes long.. I found it so scary tru to life.. especially when i saw the Feb Forbes mag cover of Wells Fargo "The Bank That Works"..

(unfortunately censored so gaps due to a lot of "F" words and finger gestures and such.. lol)
http://www.sho.com/site/order/preview.do#/HOL_s01_e01


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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 6:55:42 PM   
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I obviously am not going to give my opinions and get involved in this conversation, but let me tell you FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, at least with Bank of America;those loan modification programs and promises of lower rates (when because of self employment when loans start result in 13% interest rates) sounds wonderful, but in reality, getting approved no matter WHAT the legislation says and the chance of it working when you have a homeowner who is talking to a "modification specialist" that does not even know what the correct forms are to send to you, and then denies the modification because the correct paperwork was not filled out, is what in fact happens ALOT. The paperwork that the homeowners(If you can't tell Im one of that group rather recently) that has been sent out about illegal foreclosures is tortuous to understand( and I am a licensed Real Estate Broker) and is not a panacea to someone that lost their home because they followed directions the first time. I would not be suprised if the modification procedure itself has not been modified, so good luck to those trying to even get that bigger amount.



I have a friend who works for a HUD approved loan modifier/advocate and it's her opinion the banks do more sabotage to the negotiation process than underwriters ungodly (by comparison to what we were EVER used to before in terms of items to satisfy.
    And I really think this agreement being so tenuously defended today is the product of a bunch of State AGs being afraid they might lose and kill off future political aspirations... kinda kick it out of your court to borrow from Tennis lingo.



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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:00:06 PM   
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You didn't miss a thing darlin.


Hey ,,, you mentioned being a licensed realtor ... have you seen any new sales screwed up by issues with the prior deeds? I know of 1/2  a dozen in my county alone where a certain german bank famous for acting as 'trustee' pushed 'imperfect' deeds through the land courts and registry of deeds.
  I was just wondering if that was what was happening everywhere.



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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:26:59 PM   
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You have certainly expressed your opinion. I don't know if you have shown me anything. The banks are not blameless, but the home owners aren't necessarily either
In any case, I have high hopes for this plan. As a public policy, I fail to see how paying people who have already been foreclosed on, regardless of the circumstances, seems pointless
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What ever happened tp personal responsilbity? There are a couple of nice cars out there that I would like to have. I can't afford them so I'm not going to buy them. Some of these folks were buying expensive homes making 30 to 40,000 a year. Are the banks partly responsible, yes. Should everyone who was underwater on a home loan get $2000, no.


Because, as I have shown Iamsweet before, people were lied too. Not all people, but enough that the banks are hardly blameless.


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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:34:10 PM   
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It is completely pointless. It is all politics eight months before the election. Obama says 'I am looking out for the little people', while golfing with the likes of Warren Buffet.

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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:43:23 PM   
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So folks will remember this 8 months from now............... and vote on it?




Lol!


More proof cons aren`t happy about our good news.


More proof they would fuck us and our economy just to fucking win elections.

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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:54:39 PM   
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Yes, some will. When the housing market is still in the dumps this will be a campaign issue.

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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 7:59:28 PM   
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You have certainly expressed your opinion. I don't know if you have shown me anything. The banks are not blameless, but the home owners aren't necessarily either
In any case, I have high hopes for this plan. As a public policy, I fail to see how paying people who have already been foreclosed on, regardless of the circumstances, seems pointless
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What ever happened tp personal responsilbity? There are a couple of nice cars out there that I would like to have. I can't afford them so I'm not going to buy them. Some of these folks were buying expensive homes making 30 to 40,000 a year. Are the banks partly responsible, yes. Should everyone who was underwater on a home loan get $2000, no.


Because, as I have shown Iamsweet before, people were lied too. Not all people, but enough that the banks are hardly blameless.



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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 8:06:19 PM   
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There is a very old saying.."buyer beware"..

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RE: 26 billion dollar mortgage settlement - 2/9/2012 9:40:51 PM   
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So let the con-men keep the money.......


Great.

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