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Branding - 2/11/2012 9:15:43 AM

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Looking for some web site about branding. Place where I can found somme good and technical explaination about material and how to practice

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RE: Branding - 2/11/2012 10:04:00 AM

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go to a live demo... and learn from someone who's credentials you can check.. branding isn't something to fool around with and learn about from reading

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RE: Branding - 2/11/2012 10:52:15 AM

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Very true. And there is lots of excellent branding being done with cautery pens these days though the technique is FAR different.

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RE: Branding - 2/11/2012 11:12:52 AM

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And remember, there is no such thing as a branding qualification. Professional branders could be anyone, it just means they charge but doesn't necessarily mean they are well trained or trained at all for that matter. Reputation is the key thing. See there work, talk to those they have branded. I recommend BME but there are branding groups on FL too.

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RE: Branding - 2/11/2012 5:23:14 PM

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Bad luck Will be difficulté to found some in France .....if you have any idéal here to see some vidéo or information thanks in advance.

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RE: Branding - 2/13/2012 5:40:17 AM

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Do you specifically want the branding process, or just the finished mark?

Due to the way skin heals, it's hard to get sharp outlines, plus brands tend not to be even in color. You might be able to get a "brand" that's more precise and better looking by one of the scarification processes.

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RE: Branding - 2/13/2012 2:59:10 PM

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Would like the branding process
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RE: Branding - 2/13/2012 4:25:07 PM

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I'm pretty sure I've burnt myself with enough hot kitchen implements to qualify as an expert... Or a really clumsy cook.

If I was so inclined to do it on purpose, I suppose I would use 12g or so, solid core wire, bent into an open pattern, heated red hot and applied for several seconds (or until I couldn't stand the screaming) to something clean and immobilized. If I was crazy enough to do it again, I sure as hell wouldn't overlap the pattern or create any closed loop areas. But that's me, and thus far my only branding experiences have been strictly accidental.

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RE: Branding - 2/13/2012 6:23:03 PM

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I found branding marks, like most burn scars, spread and fade with time. Also, because burnt skin contracts, avoid areas over moving joints (anywhere on the shoulder, behind the knees, wrists or lower back) as the healing wound will continually break open and increase the risk of infection. (ex army medic)

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RE: Branding - 2/13/2012 11:06:22 PM

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I could understand that point of view. But branding is not an heavy burn as you can as an ex army medic can know. It's something lighter and it's why I try to found here some expert in this.

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 12:04:12 AM

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As stated, brands tends to fade and disappear. For cattle the current method is to use "freezing" - to something like -40oC - as this kills the colour part of the hair sacks and thus remains visible after the wound has healed. Also there is no change to the texture of the leather lateron .....

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 3:27:08 AM

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Thanks.

Could you tell us more about this?

Have you got an adress or web site where we can have more information about it?

Last question, how can we do some -40°c easly?

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 3:49:18 AM

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 4:49:27 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hotch

I'm pretty sure I've burnt myself with enough hot kitchen implements to qualify as an expert... Or a really clumsy cook.

If I was so inclined to do it on purpose, I suppose I would use 12g or so, solid core wire, bent into an open pattern, heated red hot and applied for several seconds (or until I couldn't stand the screaming) to something clean and immobilized. If I was crazy enough to do it again, I sure as hell wouldn't overlap the pattern or create any closed loop areas. But that's me, and thus far my only branding experiences have been strictly accidental.

A friend of mine used a coat hanger. Not sure what the gauge was on that but it left an impressive scar. She used the technique you described with a camp fire out back. But I noticed you didn't mention how you would prepare the area ahead of time or how you would take care of it afterwords to insure the was no infection. Burns can cause some very nasty infections.

Frankly I would go with the suggestions above and find someone who could show me how to do it safely and not try to teach myself with snippets from strangers online.

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 4:54:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HIRAM13

I could understand that point of view. But branding is not an heavy burn as you can as an ex army medic can know. It's something lighter and it's why I try to found here some expert in this.

Thanks for your message

Actually, she is right. Put an healing wound over any part that moves a lot and you will have it reopening when they move. And if you decide to do it on her back where she can't reach it, you will be the one who is responsible for keeping it clean. You also have to be careful about the pattern if you want it to heal properly.

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 4:56:17 AM

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Very true. And there is lots of excellent branding being done with cautery pens these days though the technique is FAR different.

Those are fun to play with. I still have the one from my last branding, but I doubt it has much juice left in it. That said I can see someone with no experience picking one up and slicing through their subs arm like a hot knife through butter. Oucheee

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 5:22:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HIRAM13
But branding is not an heavy burn as you can as an ex army medic can know. It's something lighter and it's why I try to found here some expert in this.

Though without a solid skillset getting that lighter burn, and keeping it uninfected has poor odds.

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 8:04:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hotch

I'm pretty sure I've burnt myself with enough hot kitchen implements to qualify as an expert... Or a really clumsy cook.

If I was so inclined to do it on purpose, I suppose I would use 12g or so, solid core wire, bent into an open pattern, heated red hot and applied for several seconds (or until I couldn't stand the screaming) to something clean and immobilized. If I was crazy enough to do it again, I sure as hell wouldn't overlap the pattern or create any closed loop areas. But that's me, and thus far my only branding experiences have been strictly accidental.

A friend of mine used a coat hanger. Not sure what the gauge was on that but it left an impressive scar. She used the technique you described with a camp fire out back. But I noticed you didn't mention how you would prepare the area ahead of time or how you would take care of it afterwords to insure the was no infection. Burns can cause some very nasty infections.

Frankly I would go with the suggestions above and find someone who could show me how to do it safely and not try to teach myself with snippets from strangers online.

As I implied in my previous post, I'm in no way an expert. You're right about random suggestions... Best taken with a grain of salt... This place is more Dr. Phil, then Dr. Professional... It's all about the entertainment!

BUT, this isn't rocket science or even extreme medical play. I'd be more worried about say... catheter play then doing a small brand. There's a big difference between caring for a small 3rd degree burn as opposed to a burn that covers a significant area. Basic minor wound care should be sufficient. IF I wanted a brand, I wouldn't have much trepidation about doing it myself... common sense goes a long way. As far as cleaning and after care, I'd use an antiseptic wipe to clean the surrounding skin before the burn and then cover loosely with sterile gauze. I'd probably stay away from antiseptic cream unless an infection was starting. If things get out of hand... a trip to the REAL Dr. is always a possibility.

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RE: Branding - 2/14/2012 1:39:46 PM

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I have 2 different sorts of hot strike brand on both shoulders. Both done some years ago and both as vivid and beautiful as ever but then they were done by Steve (my husband) and Steve is a professional brander who has taught many 'now professionals' how to do this safely.
Branding over fatty areas such as the tummy or inner thighs is not advisable as the scar has a tendency to stretch. For the same reason a woman should avoid the breasts as breasts do go south eventually and the scar will become messy. Lean areas such as the shoulders and upper arms are a fairly good bet. The more sun you can get on your scar during the healing process, the more developed the scar will become.
For hot strike branding Steve would never recommend steel thicker than half a mm. 3rd degree burns grow between 3 to 5 times their width. For a snake bite brand he will use a 1.5mm tool but this is because 'snake bite' keeps its size very reliably. Cautery also keeps its finer lines more successfully but the cautery machines that professionals use cost upwards of $5000. They are not those little cautery pens we can buy on amazon or ebay that so many scene people are now using. Those things don't get hot enough to cause anything more than a 2nd degree burn (very painful with a high risk of infection) and they don't retain anything like enough heat once on the skin.

It would be unwise to go into the intricate details of branding but here is some after care I wrote some time ago for another site. http://www.edgeplay.co.uk/shop/education.php

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RE: Branding - 2/19/2012 2:22:24 PM

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Thanks à lot i Will test first thé cold Branding and just after thé hot one but like MariaB tell us through thé dégelât web site.
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