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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 3:34:01 PM   
stef


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Status: offline 		The cunt's trainer is a lazy putz. Tell him to use his big head and figure out his own punishments.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 3:38:15 PM   
Killerangel


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Status: offline 		Answer me something, what are you being trained for? This male partner of yours, what is his role to you? Just 'training' you? For what?

My input is for you, not for your trainer-do what you want. If you want people to beat on you then go for it. If you want a man in your life to hurt you and have sex with you under the guise of training then that's your choice, and if you want others involved too then so be it. If you want to dump them for a woman, since your profile says you are a lesbian, then go for it. It's about what you want out of life. I'm not about to guide a supposed leader into what appropriate action is since I'm not in the business of leading you, you're responsible for your own life. Take charge of it.

Just an FYI, it's really annoying to read stuff written in the third person. If that's your dynamic I won't knock it but it crosses the line when we're all subjected to it. Bleah....

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 5:06:20 PM   
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This is not going to end well.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 5:07:25 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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I think the trainer should be beaten for making us read the words "this cunt" so many times.


Agreed.

(He's probably a cunt too).

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 5:16:14 PM   
Endivius


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Status: offline 		I don't know what everyone's complaining about, i think your doing a great job cunt! Your trainer on the other hand, is a total failure.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 5:20:52 PM   
strangedesire


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Status: offline 		Perhaps you two ought to switch places? You seem to know how to exact the pain play your desire from your trainer. He, on the other hand, has no idea how to get you to do what he wants.

And we aren't your community - we're a bunch of people on a message board. The idea that the feelings of disinterested strangers ought to have any bearing on your relationship is ludicrous.


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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 5:27:06 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

I don't know what everyone's complaining about, i think your doing a great job cunt! Your trainer on the other hand, is a total failure.


Ed Zachary cunt....I concur.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 6:02:20 PM   
NiceButMeanGirl


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ORIGINAL: shortydowaop

This cunt has recently made its Trainer look very bad, and He has asked this cunt to seek the community's input on what He should do. This cunt invited another Dom to the cunt's home and allowed the visiting Dom to beat the cunt (with the Trainer's permission). The visiting Dom was more gentle than the cunt's Trainer, however, and the cunt was very disrespectful to the visiting Dom and ridiculed the weakness of his beating.



Humiliated, this cunt's Trainer already intends to beat the cunt harder than the cunt has ever been beaten, but the Trainer feels that the community may have some input about appropriate corrective (as opposed to merely punitive) measures. This cunt stands ready to do whatever the community believes is appropriate, in the Trainer's discretion, and asks whether members of the community may have ideas.

First, I can't stand reading shit in third person, it's very irritating as I'm not into either that third-person stuff or objectification. If that's your deal, good for you, but don't shove it in our faces. It's very annoying and I don't like it.

Second, what the hell is the matter with your "Trainer" that he can't figure this shit out himself? I really don't have a lot of regard for some person who says s/he is a "Trainer" when s/he won't or can't figure things out and do the training for him/herself.

Third, your profile says you're a lesbian so why the hell are you being trained by a male Dom anyway? Of course it's none of my business, but if I were totally lesbian, I'd want to be sure a man had nothing to do with me sexually at all.

Fourth, I can't stand the word "cunt" at all and, unless I miscounted, you used it about eleven times in that short post. Okay, I'm done.....for now anyway.

NBMG

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 9:08:08 PM   
kitkat105


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I can't help but get the very strong impression that you're not the only cunt in this relationship.




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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 9:34:25 PM   
OttersSwim


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Status: offline 		All this third person type and "cuntyness" has me wanting to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon.

If you cannot refer to yourself in the first person, IMO, you belong no where near a computer.


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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 9:40:00 PM   
Fornica


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Status: offline 		So..we're all agreed that her trainer is a cunt? There. Did we answer your question, OP?

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/12/2012 9:44:52 PM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

ORIGINAL: shortydowaop

Bita translation of the OP:

What punishment fits the crime of being a Smart-Ass Masochist?


None. It's not a crime to be a SAM. If a male dominant expects more from a lesbian bottom, he's probably not that wise. Listen, it's a great way to get your ass beat if that's your thing and after reading your profile, applying logic to it it's all win-win for everyone. Just go out and get some more ass beating on (yeah, call that punitive damages.. it's perfect! I love it). Have some fun - push the envelope. You know you want to.

Trainer dude.. you have my premission to proceed as you will.



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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 4:39:46 AM   
angelikaJ


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: shortydowaop

Bita translation of the OP:

What punishment fits the crime of being a Smart-Ass Masochist?


None. It's not a crime to be a SAM. If a male dominant expects more from a lesbian bottom, he's probably not that wise. Listen, it's a great way to get your ass beat if that's your thing and after reading your profile, applying logic to it it's all win-win for everyone. Just go out and get some more ass beating on (yeah, call that punitive damages.. it's perfect! I love it). Have some fun - push the envelope. You know you want to.

Trainer dude.. you have my premission to proceed as you will.




I like your answer better than mine.


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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:10:08 AM   
fucktoyprincess


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Status: offline 		Notwithstanding all the other comments on this thread which have expressed a frustration and annoyance that you are making the rest of us feel, I will add this.

Pain is a very personal thing. Punishment is also unique to every dynamic. We could all sit here and come up with a thousand things that might or might not work for you given your particular dynamic, and given your personal threshold for pain i.e., what is extreme of you may not be to others and vice versa. (Let me also add that a beating is not the only punishment that one could mete out - there are many, many non-physical punishments that could be considered as effective, if not more, than physical punishment).

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:21:29 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Well, you asked for opinions...... 

I agree that there is a problem with the behavior.  If I'm training anyone, they are associated with My name in the community and that means they had damn well better know how to act in regard to manners and such.  It's not the topping from the bottom that would have ticked Me off.  It would have been the lack of courtesy with the 'you're not beating right/hard enough/ up to standards'.  That's not how you treat people on either side of the kneel.  When people take the time and effort to play/scene, even when it doesn't live up to expectations for whatever reason, you are still gracious enough to thank them for their time.  Not everybody plays as hard as everybody else and there will be times that you run into people who don't play as hard as you.  That's not a character defect or a harm situation.  (I'm having deja vu here because I just wrote something similar on another site yesterday.)

Would I beat somebody for it?  Hell, no!  The lack of being beaten hard enough sounds like it was what led to the rudeness in the first place.  That would be the last thing I would do.  It certainly isn't going to prevent it from happening again because there is no lesson in it.  I'm thinking something related to manners in some form.  Research and writing would work.  A good weight of books that are non fiction related to manners or protocol (depending on personal taste of the authority figure) would do a good job of it, too.  Of course, anybody who is 'training' anyone should be more than qualified to come up with something suitable.

If there is actual humiliation associated with this incident, and rightful embarrassment of the person who is supposed to be in charge, I wouldn't be broadcasting it on a forum, either.  There's something to be said for good taste.  In My opinion, if I can't handle disciplinary problems within the dynamic, I shouldn't be the person in authority in one.  How did this thread make it better?  Seems to Me that all it's doing for the parties involved is making it worse. 

OK.  That's not entirely true.  I get to say a couple of words about a personal pet peeve of Mine.  This advice will help the OP with future discussions on the forums.

Take a second and read My signature line.  Remember it.  Make it a part of your philosophy.  It comes in really useful when matters such as how the person on the other side of the kneel has been instructed by the person in authority to conduct themselves.  See, I'm the type that if another Dominant tried to tell Me how things are supposed to work in My dynamic, I'd tell them just where they can shove their uninvited input.  They can do what the hell they want when it comes to their own submissive, but they certainly don't have the authority to overturn Mine.  There isn't a one of them who would want Me sticking My nose into their dynamic, when they have given a command to their s type, for Me to come along and contradict them.  Affording others the same courtesy isn't that difficult.

I don't care if third person speech makes the eyes of every person on this forum bleed.  The only obedience or preference that has to be followed is the person who is actually in charge of the damn dynamic.  If somebody else can't handle that, there is always the option of kindly reminding them that they aren't one of the participants and they sure aren't the person in power.  They have no more right to interfere than they would if they were to walk up to people at a play party who are engaging in kink or expression of their power dynamic and try to bully somebody into changing because, in their opinion, the people who want it that way are doing it wrong.


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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:24:35 AM   
xssve


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Status: offline 		Well a visiting dom might be wary of beating a cunt as hard as might beat a cunt of his own, it takes a little time to get to know a cunt, what a given cunts limits are, etc., and there are liability issues involved if he injures a cunt etc.

Your mouthing off to him was clearly intended to egg him on, but in such a way as to be easily construed as topping from the bottom, try asking nicely next time.


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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:32:30 AM   
ProlificNeeds


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Status: offline 		In a 'normal' context, if you were rude to your partners friend, then fucking apologize like an adult and ask how you can make it up to him/them and act like a god damn adult about it. If it's just a play excuse for a 'funishment' then by all means go ahead and have at, but if this is a serious request for input on 'how to correct childish behavior' maybe your 'trainer' should pick up a parenting book instead of BDSM resources.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:33:55 AM   
MrBukani


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Status: offline 		As often as I dont agree with the pack, it makes sense what she is saying here.
I like the underline where you say it's not a democracy, thats cool.
Respect.
And for those not liking the word cunt or speakin in the third person, there is such a thing as a button like on your remote.
Just change the channel if you dont like it.
Or does everybody has to abide by your rules?
If its this easy someone will take their eyes out for a thread, I will advise you to never read mine.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:38:04 AM   
OsideGirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl

First, I can't stand reading shit in third person, it's very irritating as I'm not into either that third-person stuff or objectification. If that's your deal, good for you, but don't shove it in our faces. It's very annoying and I don't like it.

I find third person annoying, but I can tolerate it as part of someones dynamic. What bothered me was the use of cunt as a derogatory term, which I feel insults every woman, not just her.

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RE: "Vindication" - 2/13/2012 7:42:33 AM   
MrBukani


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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl

First, I can't stand reading shit in third person, it's very irritating as I'm not into either that third-person stuff or objectification. If that's your deal, good for you, but don't shove it in our faces. It's very annoying and I don't like it.

I find third person annoying, but I can tolerate it as part of someones dynamic. What bothered me was the use of cunt as a derogatory term, which I feel insults every woman, not just her.

I know cunt is that kind of word, but it certainly shouldnt be percieved as such, Especially in this scene. Douchebag or prick or any swearing against men doesnt imply to me and it does not affect all men.
Just saying.

PS just saw a happy regular mom with her kids yesterday and her son had a cap on saying BITCH. It is not my thing. I thought to point it out. But it seems an overkill.
The word bitch has been upgraded to a positive thing like people say these days man thats sick.
You will never be able to do that in dutch cause the main part about our hardcore swearing vocabulary revolves around diseases like cancer.

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