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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:03:45 AM   
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Do you approve of him equating the way you love to having sex with animals>?


No, I don't. and I don't have to call him some cutesy little name to say so.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:05:21 AM   
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No, I don't. and I don't have to call him some cutesy little name to say so.


Frankly, I don't see you calling him a fucking cunt. (that's not cutesy is it?)

Maybe its just me. 

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:05:22 AM   
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Do you approve of him equating the way you love to having sex with animals>?


No, I don't. and I don't have to call him some cutesy little name to say so.

And here you are trying to impose your morals on others just like he does.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:07:03 AM   
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She doesnt understand that unless you are a woman having sex with a man you are married to, your "consensual" sex act is no different than incest, adultery, bigamy or polygamy, according to Rick Santorum.



Yes, actually she does. And I noticed that you managed to show him to be the ass that he is without resorting to any name calling. It's a shame more can't do that.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:08:47 AM   
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~FR~ FFS, folks. Grow up and stop sounding like a preschool overly politicized recess(and yeah, don't tell me it doesn't happen. kids learn from DAY ONE from their caregivers...). USE THE PERSONS NAME.


Christ... the time I spent with developmentally disabled kids (from pre school thru highschool) even THEY didnt devolve into this kind of petty shit.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:09:47 AM   
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No, I don't. and I don't have to call him some cutesy little name to say so.


Frankly, I don't see you calling him a fucking cunt. (that's not cutesy is it?)

Maybe its just me. 


Not cutesy, but very descriptive.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:10:36 AM   
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During The Daily Show on Monday night, John Stewart mocked Rick Santorum for bashing the Obama Administration’s birth control requirement as a war against religion because Catholic institutions were going to have to cover contraceptives in their insurance policies.

STEWART: “Yes! We are men of god! That money must not be used for contraception! That money has been set aside for out of court [...] settlements and of course, some priest relocation. Respect our authority! Seriously? A firestorm among “many Catholics” or the old dudes who run it? [...]

Old dudes who run it. Check.”

Stewart then saw a slippery slope argument to the one the Catholic Church was making– any employer could claim they just “didn’t believe” in some sort of health care (say, a Church of Scientology member believing in prayer or a sports coach believing in “walk it off, you pussy”). “I am an employer,” he noted, “and I personally believe in the healing power of comedy,” spraying a writer who had the flu with a pressurized canister of water, for laughs. To those opposing the mandate, Stewart concluded, “liberty means liberty for employers, employees can go f*ck themselves.”

After playing clips of right wing talking heads comparing President Obama to the Nazis because of the new contraception coverage rules and claiming that Christians are being persecuted, Stewart, true to form, hilariously debunked the comparison and launched into a monologue describing how religion is not being persecuted.




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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:12:57 AM   
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The topic of Christian persecution is not new territory for Stewart. Here are a couple recent quotes from him:

"Does anyone know...does the Christian persecution complex have an expiration date? Because...uh...you've all been in charge pretty much since...uh...what was that guys name...Constantine. He converted in, what was it, 312 A.D. I'm just saying, enjoy your success."

- Jon Stewart

"I have to say, as someone who is not Christian, it’s hard for me to believe Christians are a persecuted people in America. God-willing, maybe one of you one day will even rise up and get to be president of this country - or maybe forty-four in a row. But, that’s my point, is they’ve taken this idea of no establishment as persecution, because they feel entitled, not to equal status, but to greater status."

– Jon Stewart to Mike Huckabee on The Daily Show

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RE: The Vagina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:23:52 AM   
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Finally found full transcript:

JON STEWART: As we’ve seen, this controversy over birth control insurance was really in full flare last week, which is why a concerned Sean Hannity convened a diverse panel of experts on the subject of contraception: Catholic men, Jewish men, Baptist men, Black men, White men – absolutely everyone who might have something relevant to say … on women’s reproductive health.

Of course, where you might see a disagreement over bureaucratic details of employees’ preventive healthcare benefits, the world’s holiest sausage-fest saw something much bigger.

[START CLIP: Hannity’s holy sausage-fest]

HANNITY: Is there a war now on religion in America? Father?

PRIEST #1: There certainly is.

[END CLIP]

STEWART: I gotta hand it to these guys’ imagination. First wine becomes blood, then insurance reform becomes war? It’s getting pretty dramatic.

[START CLIP: Hannity’s holy sausage-fest]

HANNITY: How many of you would be willing to go to jail over this?

All holy men raise their hands.

PRIEST #2: If I’m asked to do something that goes against my conscience, I better be willing to die for that.

[END CLIP]

STEWART: That strikes me as somewhat of an overreaction. I used to bartend in Jersey, we had some hair-trigger folks there as well, you know. “You want another drink?” “THAT’S IT, OUTSIDE!”

Do some Christians face persecution today? Absolutely – in Egypt, China. Believe me, the Christian guy making bricks in a Chinese forced labor camp? He’d love to be on Hannity, complaining about a $20 copay for orthotrycycline.

So I know you’re not seriously equating yourselves with victims of actual religious persecution and wars.

[START CLIP: Montage of cable news channel interviews]

ERIC METAXAS: You read about what happened to an amazingly great country called Germany. […] In the beginning, it always starts really, really small.


DR. RICHARD LAND: Martin Niemöller said, during the Nazi era in Germany, “I didn’t speak up when they came for the communists, because I wasn’t a communist.”

[END CLIP]

STEWART: You wanna do the Nazi dance? Is that what you wanna do? You wanna do this? ALL RIGHT, LET’S DO THIS!

First of all, when the Nazis came for people, they also left with them. It wasn’t a metaphor. And as for your slippery slope, Hitler did not “start small”. His deliberate annihilation of religion didn’t kick off with insurance reform. He started by trying to take over of all of Germany with a machine-gun and a beer hall. They saw him coming.

In jail, he authored a little best-seller, writing, quote: “The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.” By the way, doesn’t sound nearly as bad in it’s original angry German. (That’s a real font, by the way.)

So, in the early 1930s, when you’re saying Hitler was making subtle and incremental changes to top-quality healthcare, the slippery slope, he was actually focusing on more broad-based changes like 1932, when a “little” group of a half-a-million Brownshirts shot hundreds of his political opponents in the street. Not to mention those “intimate” little back-room gatherings the Nazis held every year at Nuremberg.

My point is, Hitler didn’t play small ball. So lighten up, Francis. America isn’t Nazi Germany, and the secret police aren’t coming for ya. Hell, the IRS isn’t even coming for ya! This government hates religious organizations so much, it lets them keep a hundred billion dollars a year in offerings tax-free. Persecute my ass like that! I’d love it!

Here’s how far you are from being persecuted. I live in New York City, the world capital of godless secularism. How bad is it? These are our taxis. [image: gay pride float] That is what we here in New York are forced to go to work in. But even here, we’ve carved out huge zones in front of houses of worship where only religious vehicles are allowed to park. You know how hard it is to find a parking space in Manhattan? The only proof of the existence of God we accept is when you find a spot on your own block. It’s the only proof! Meanwhile, religious houses are getting fifty feet of gold-[?] curb all to themselves, 24-7!

You’ve confused a war on your religion with not always getting everything you want. It’s called being part of society! Not everything goes your way. You know, I don’t let my kids eat ice cream every night. They wish I did. But even they know that doesn’t make me the Hitler of ice cream.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:25:21 AM   
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~FR~ FFS, folks. Grow up and stop sounding like a preschool overly politicized recess(and yeah, don't tell me it doesn't happen. kids learn from DAY ONE from their caregivers...). USE THE PERSONS NAME.


FFS Greedy, they DO use his proper name. Savage REDEFINED it. No one is calling Santorum a name in any way shape or form, other than his own with a twisted definition.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:30:36 AM   
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~FR~ FFS, folks. Grow up and stop sounding like a preschool overly politicized recess(and yeah, don't tell me it doesn't happen. kids learn from DAY ONE from their caregivers...). USE THE PERSONS NAME.


Christ... the time I spent with developmentally disabled kids (from pre school thru highschool) even THEY didnt devolve into this kind of petty shit.
FLR.


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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:32:56 AM   
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She doesnt understand that unless you are a woman having sex with a man you are married to, your "consensual" sex act is no different than incest, adultery, bigamy or polygamy, according to Rick Santorum.



Yes, actually she does. And I noticed that you managed to show him to be the ass that he is without resorting to any name calling. It's a shame more can't do that.


As I explained to Greedy... no one is calling him a name. They continue to call him "Rick Santorum". Savage gave his name a meaning. Savage offered to take down that meaning pending a donation by Santorum to a gay rights group.

Its called a neologsm. Do some call him names? Yes. But that definition isnt a name calling. Now, if I were to call Master Ron a "Rick Santorum"... yeah... no.. dont believe I will. I sorta like my skin the way it is... intact.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 11:38:14 AM   
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neologIsm.  

you can quote me.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 12:03:12 PM   
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Calling Ken out, suggesting he made the "nickname" up and is there fore childish was the point. Nothing more.
And got away with it.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 12:09:40 PM   
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neologIsm.  

you can quote me.

MasterRon


pffffffffft.. I knew that. I got in a lazy streak and didnt want to correct myself.

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RE: The Vigina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 1:01:32 PM   
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In 2003, in response to comments by then-U.S. Senator Rick Santorum that were criticized as anti-gay, sex columnist and gay rights activist Dan Savage began a campaign to (in Savage's words) "memorialize the Santorum scandal [...] by attaching his name to a sex act that would make his big, white teeth fall out of his big, empty head".[1][2]

Santorum made the comments to which Savage took offense in an April 2003 interview with the Associated Press. Discussing a recent United States Supreme Court decision striking down an anti-sodomy law, Santorum compared the right to consensual (homosexual) sex within the home to polygamy, incest and adultery, and made references to bestiality and child sexual abuse in the context of distinguishing them from monogamous, heterosexual marriage as forms of deviant sexual behavior.[3]

Savage subsequently asked his readers to coin a definition for santorum,[2] and announced the winner as "the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex." Savage created a web site to promote this definition, which became a prominent search result for Santorum's name on several web search engines. In 2010 Savage offered to take the website down if Santorum donated US$5 million to Freedom to Marry, a group advocating legal recognition of same-sex marriages.

In September 2011 Santorum asked Google to remove the definition from its search engine index. In response, Google said that the company does not remove content from search results except in very limited circumstances.[4]



What should disturb ALL of us on here is that many in the GOP not just santorum, ...feel that while there’s freedom OF religion – there should be NO freedom FROM religion which means that while “limited government” extends to business, there should be UNLIMITED Government in promoting & enforcing (his) religion, censorship, and prosecuting the dissention of or from ether.
 
I've LONG said being a Kinkster of any orientation and voting conservative is oxymoronic stupidity, because given the chance, ur sexuality will be made even more illegal than it might already be… only with the backing of the government to actively hunt u down and arrest u for it , by the very people ur voting for to keep giving the wealthy tax cuts to and raise the middle classes taxes by charging us fees...

a small look at the GOP's pandering to some groups points this out....

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/43693216#null

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bachmann-signs-socially-conservative-pledge-on-homosexuality-marriage/2011/07/08/gIQAxyK43H_story.html

really? if ur sexual, GLBT, kinky, or not AS religious or wealthy as they are,.. puts u in their crosshairs for conversion.....except the wealthy part they need china-wage workers to make THEM money... and tythe 10% of what u make of that to the church....

and yes ur sexuallty IS their business..... and they are going to see to it that it is....

santorum's name being redefined is well deserved....



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RE: The Vagina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 3:57:10 PM   
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Paraphrasing..."the church is being abused with the tax exemption on the billions they take in every year.....Please government.....abuse me that way!...."


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RE: The Vagina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 3:58:41 PM   
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Perhaps they are creating manufacturing jobs, the capitulists tell us its dead certain that doing it for corporations will make it so..........

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RE: The Vagina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 5:07:37 PM   
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Get back on topic, and not commenting on each other please.

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RE: The Vagina Ideologues - 2/14/2012 10:06:08 PM   
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Read tonight that the church is ok with men getting Viagra scripts payed by the church........something seems unfair here.

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