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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/15/2012 8:32:26 PM   
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Good looks last only as long as your next sexual encounter, so while he may be cute as a button,
it isn't going to do him any good if he can't hold a womans attention outside of the bedroom.



Thank GAWD I'm ugly as fuck but can hold a woman's attention for well beyond 90 seconds.

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/15/2012 8:50:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: poise

Good looks last only as long as your next sexual encounter, so while he may be cute as a button,
it isn't going to do him any good if he can't hold a womans attention outside of the bedroom.



Thank GAWD I'm ugly as fuck but can hold a woman's attention for well beyond 90 seconds.

Whew indeed. But are you certain it isn't that shiny little spot on your head that holds their focus?

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/15/2012 9:29:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: poise

Good looks last only as long as your next sexual encounter, so while he may be cute as a button,
it isn't going to do him any good if he can't hold a womans attention outside of the bedroom.



Thank GAWD I'm ugly as fuck but can hold a woman's attention for well beyond 90 seconds.

Whew indeed. But are you certain it isn't that shiny little spot on your head that holds their focus?


There is that.

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/15/2012 9:38:33 PM   
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*6) Spamming WORKS. In regular email and here. That is why men do it. If you think it doesn't work, you don't understand economics. You get about 1/10 the response rate of a well thought out email but send out about 20x as many emails. That gives you a 2:1 advantage. Some, but not all of that goes away when they get to know you. Frankly, I have ethics and have better things to do with my time, but I totally understand why spammers do what they do. It works on dating websites just like it works for email.

*7). If women dislike this, there is a simple, easy way to deal with it. As a woman, you can actually initiate contact first, I know you thought it was illegal but it isn't. You don't even get fined. Then just ignore all emails from people that you didn't contact first. The fact that women refuse to do the same work they want men to do is THEIR fault, not the spammers. Intelligent people modify their actions to fit the world, they don't scream at the world for not conforming to their desires. I want all thin 20 year old women to go naked all the time but I am not stupid enough to complain about this.

8) Even if women insist on wading through spam instead of contacting men first, they can easily use their numerical advantage to get exactly what they think they want. But be careful what you wish for. Note it will take some time, but they will succeed. For men it is a crapshoot given the bad ratios here. The best women for you very likely will meet someone slightly better than you.




Why so serious?? but seriously I really didn't think about your spammers theory in that light before interesting. hummm........... Dude, don't Generalize women man. I am known to make first contact. Just like a lot of other women I know. It's all in the personality and not in the Gender.

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 6:02:00 AM   
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We do share, rather often. We do not steal, or seduce away.
The real ones you mean?

What guys know, is that your best friend will tap your old lady given half a chance.


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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 9:17:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		No. I would go so far as to say that real men don't scam on their friends' ladies, either.

I remember when I was a much younger man, my attitude (for a time) was: "She's gonna cheat with someone; it may as well be me." Even when that was the case, if a lady told me she had a husband/boyfriend, I insisted upon seeing a photo so I could ascertain whether it was someone I knew or not (even if just a casual acquaintance).



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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 10:10:48 AM   
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Seriously, while men are more likely to cheat with somebody their wife doesn't know, women are statistically more likely to cheat with your best friend - possibly due to a number of factors, you might be more likely to forgive (biologically, cheating is technically a method of broadening the gene pool and increasing the diversity of inherited traits and immunities in your offspring), so a close friend might also be more likely to help subsidize the reproduction costs, the primary concern of women, but less charitably he's also less likely to tell you, I think, than her girlfriend would be to tell her if you hit on her and she were unreceptive.

Anyway, if I've heard the story, I've heard it a thousand times, and if you get caught cheating, payback is a motherfucker because she'll start with your best friend and work her way down - heard that story a thousand times too.

It can work to advantage if you're into swinging, lotta couples get started when they start eyeballing each others wives, and drunk enough not to lie about it - and it can turn into a bonding thing.

Certainly in the dating scene a lot of guys date the same chick and vice-versa, without letting it disrupt their friendships (one reason guys tend objectify women, bros before ho's) I don't know how it works with chicks, I've seen 'em get pretty catty over a guy, but I can't say I've seen them do that in any greater proportion than guys getting into fights over chicks.

As FD mentioned, women are also more likely to go after a man who is already in a relationship, and there are biological reasons for that too as it turns out.

Biology tends to make us both avaricious and possessive at the same time, drama naturally ensues.

Kind of wandered from the topic, fetish is for fetishists, I think, a lot of it you can do it all by yourself if you have to, it's just more fun to do it with somebody.


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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 4:59:38 PM   
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As FD mentioned, women are also more likely to go after a man who is already in a relationship, and there are biological reasons for that too as it turns out.



I have noticed that also but some female friends of mine have come up with another reason (and I believe them).

Normally (not always but, usually), a guy that is "attached" doesn't tend to be "on the make" all the time like single guys. You know the type I mean; gold chains, shirt open to their waist, etc. Guys that are involved tend to just "chat" with a lady, not pushing an agenda. Ladies dig that (and are usually upset when they get around to asking the guy if he has a girlfriend/wife/significant other/goat).



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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 6:30:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		It makes sense, although scientifically, it's pheromones: women are attracted to men who have the scent of another woman on them. Presumably, this is evidence that they possess desirable traits and/or immunities, which women can apparently also smell. The latter, not the former, and in that they tend to be attracted to men whose immunity profiles are the most unlike their own, thus assuring the broadest spectrum of inherited immunities.

Not all sexual attraction has to do with reproduction of course, but those traits have been selected over millions of years for optimizing reproductive potential and still operate on a subconscious level.


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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 7:18:01 PM   
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I would go so far as to say that real men don't scam on their friends' ladies.


Ever.

It ain't done.

(And if it is...that guy ends up in the trunk of a '62 Belvedere).

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 9:30:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I would go so far as to say that real men don't scam on their friends' ladies.


(And if it is...that guy ends up in the trunk of a '62 Belvedere).



Well, I live near the Jimmy Hoffa Memorial Par ... errr ... The Meadowlands. We don't need no steenkeeng Belvedere LOL!



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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/16/2012 10:39:09 PM   
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No. I would go so far as to say that real men don't scam on their friends' ladies, either.


Oh-hell yes. Guy rule #1.
Sheesh, even if they've broken up, ya still drop by, give a heads up, see if it's cool to try and plow the field before you hit her up.
I mean cripes, if nothing else, America is stone cold aces at producing prime pussy. I am talking grade A, USDA prime, fresh juicy, warm, wet, wondercunt.
It might just be what we do best.
There's no need to go shopping in your bros neighborhood when there's always another gal waiting round the corner...

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 2:32:22 AM   
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I would go so far as to say that real men don't scam on their friends' ladies.


Ever.

It ain't done.

(And if it is...that guy ends up in the trunk of a '62 Belvedere).


*snicker snicker* :p

The biology of the attached-guy-thing is interesting, but I've never felt some huge attraction to an attached dude. Especially not to the point of wanting to snipe him. If I did go after someone who was attached, and he responded, I'd lose respect for him, and lose attraction to him. :p

I think, if anything, it might lead to the popularity of the "all the good ones are taken" saying, but I dunno that it's always a motivator for sniping. Some women are just jealous of other people's happiness, and I think that's why they snipe. They either legitimately want, or they just want to make someone else unhappy. :p
There was a crazy chick floating around my former, but it was like she never "got" that they'd broken up, and when I appeared, she went into overdrive. Dunno that it had anything to do with anything but her being jealous (well, and him being hot :p) But she saw him as an object, something to acquire, a trophy - it really wasn't healthy. His no-allergies-genes couldn't have caused all that. :p

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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 6:08:52 AM   
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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 6:14:24 AM   
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RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 6:48:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyway, in order get a really scientific handle on it, you can't be satisfied with the first explanation you hear, but keep iterating through it. This, taken from an article about Valentines day (Lupercalia - which supplies the kink element: the men stripped naked and chased the women around, flogging them with goatskin whips in order to increase their fertility) from researcher Helen Fisher seems to me to be a pretty good breakdown:

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Fisher breaks love into three distinct brain systems that enable mating and reproduction:
  • Sex drive
  • Romantic love (obsession, passion, infatuation)
  • Attachment (calmness and security with a long-term partner)These are brain systems, Fisher said, and all three play a role in love. They can operate independently, but people crave all three for an ideal relationship.

    • http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/02/120213-valentines-day-gifts-cards-history-facts-naked-romans/

    Much might be explained here by differing rates of maturity between men and women, as well as social reinforcement - i.e., guys are supposed to be players, women domestic, which in fact does in some sense fit with the biological motivations, although there is a high degree of variability and diversity there nevertheless, but the upshot being, more guys are trolling, more women nesting, statistically speaking.

    I think some of the discrepancy might be explained by the simple fact that women tend to be snatched up a lot quicker when they do troll, and there are probably more married men looking to fool around on their wives than the opposite, in BDSM anyway, and also more couples looking for another woman (unicorns) which is going to increase competition for unattached males, putting them at another disadvantage.

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    RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 6:56:47 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I don't really think unattached males are at that much of a disadvantage, as long as they're nifty. The typical eternity it takes most couples to find unicorns shows that those situations aren't as attractive to single women as just starting up with someone on their own -- unless they are specifically driven to seek out and participate in relationships with couples.

    Sometimes a single guy's biggest problem is himself -- he can't see his character flaws and weird quirks that put people off from him. =p Friends he has have come to see those things as "just how he is" or they're "funny."
    I wonder if that might be more the OPs problem -- who knows.

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    RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 7:04:37 AM   
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    Status: offline     		you don't have to be in a relationship to make it competition, if you are juggling the idea at all, it means you aren't commiting to something else.

    But there it is again, A guy has "character flaws" - women just have "a nice ass" - we'll take character into consideration after we tap it.


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    RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 7:10:51 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Explanation for all the world's psycho ex-girlfriends, perhaps? =p

    That is definitely a difference in how a typical man and a typical woman approach each other. I've been boggled by a few of my male friends for this very same thing. If a guy is an asshat, I can't get around that to play with him, but they can totally put a bitchy psycho girl's bitchy psychoness out of mind long enough to fuck her if she's cute enough.

    It's weird, mang. =p

    So in the kinky world, if you're a new female in the area, especially if you're young, it seems the dudes at events see it as a trophy thing, to put the new chick down as one of their conquests, or snare her into their sub harem. Meanwhile, a new guy shows up, and the chicks all go "man... he's weird."

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    RE: Is fetish not for single guys? - 2/17/2012 7:12:40 AM   
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