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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

How do we know that you`re not just one more dupe of denialgate?

First off, Owner59, before using a word like "dupe," you need to offer all the participants of this forum a sincere apology for having helped to spread this act fraud and forgery you were so eager to crow about. YOU are the dupe of "Denialgate," or "Fakegate," as it has since been renamed.

Now I do understand how hard that might be for you, so can start by apologizing to the true believers of AGW, whose credibility you have further run into the mud. The guy you cited has apologized on Huff n Poo, so maybe you can try following his template?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

How do we know that you`re not just one more dupe of denialgate?

First off, Owner59, before using a word like "dupe," you need to offer all the participants of this forum a sincere apology for having helped to spread this act fraud and forgery you were so eager to crow about. YOU are the dupe of "Denialgate," or "Fakegate," as it has since been renamed.

Now I do understand how hard that might be for you, so can start by apologizing to the true believers of AGW, whose credibility you have further run into the mud. The guy you cited has apologized on Huff n Poo, so maybe you can try following his template?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
2. Yes, we have an effect on our environment. But, my claim was that we don't yet know if Man is driving climate change. Nor do we know whether or not CO2 is driving climate change. If CO2 is driving climate change, why hasn't the climate changed as global atmospheric CO2 has continued to increase?

First off CO2 is definitely driving climate change. Physics would have to be wrong on some very basic points for that to be untrue.
1998 was the hottest year on record due to the strongest El Nino in the last 100 years. Warming has not continued only if you use 1998 as your baseline. In reality 2001 through 2011 were 11 of the 13 hottest years since 1880.

So, what you are saying is that since 1998, warming has not occurred. Has atmospheric CO2 declined? If CO2 has risen and temperature has not, how are you going to explain that?

Is CO2 the strongest greenhouse gas? Nope. Does CO2 have the largest impact on greenhouse effects? Nope. That distinction would belong to water vapor. Water vapor isn't as strong as CO2, but it is so much more prevalent that it's overall effect is larger. Let's ban water vapor!!!