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Killerangel -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/25/2012 1:20:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

THat was then, This is NOW.

On the other side now. Does that make sense to you? Prolly not.


On what planet does that make sense? You've never made any sense, not even when we could understand your words, the content, which was about your situation, was bereft of sense. Sense is not a concept you are familiar with.

It's going downhill though, the sensibility of your posts today. It's going from you talking supposedly about your crazy situation, to you sounding like a homeless woman posting at the library. I think you need a nap.

Edited to add: Just saw Angelika's post about taking a nap. Great minds think alike, I was writing and didn't see her suggestion, yet came to the same one myself from the tantrum-like quality of the OP's latest posts.




kalikshama -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/25/2012 1:27:46 PM)

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And if you were solely interested in mental domination then you never would have written the first thread. You did lie: You omitted both of these threads to your master-to-be/then master/former master. You said your husband was on board with you being with this one when he clearly was not. My guess is you withheld that information from your master as well as it didn't seem to be a surprise to you at all.


Additionally, in her very first post she says she is faithful to Master and then 20 pages later reveals she's been married for 22 years. Now, I suppose it is possible that she hasn't had sex with hubby in the two years she's been with Master, but the marriage (and children) are rather relevant to the discussion, IMO.




angelikaJ -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/25/2012 1:37:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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And if you were solely interested in mental domination then you never would have written the first thread. You did lie: You omitted both of these threads to your master-to-be/then master/former master. You said your husband was on board with you being with this one when he clearly was not. My guess is you withheld that information from your master as well as it didn't seem to be a surprise to you at all.


Additionally, in her very first post she says she is faithful to Master and then 20 pages later reveals she's been married for 22 years. Now, I suppose it is possible that she hasn't had sex with hubby in the two years she's been with Master, but the marriage (and children) are rather relevant to the discussion, IMO.


It seems in her world, values such as faithfulness, honesty and truthfulness have very different meanings.

I would like to know how she defines them but I am not sure she has concrete meanings associated with them.

Maybe she will come back and clarify... .




angelikaJ -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/25/2012 2:00:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

THat was then, This is NOW.

On the other side now. Does that make sense to you? Prolly not.


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

So, you don't know if he is or is not monogamous and are assuming he has other involvements with others/someone.

I don't know why you haven't just asked him: "Why don't you want to have intercourse with me?"

You are btw, having sex if you are giving him oral service.
And if he is non-monogamous and has other non-monogamous partners you are still at a risk of STDs.
People are getting oral and throat cancers from HPV.

Decide what you want.
If mutually satisfying sex is important to you then likely you are with the wrong person (unless he only has sex with people he has collared).

He may have a steady vanilla girlfriend and he sees intercourse and kissing as cheating.
Perhaps he saves intercourse for people he loves.

Perhaps he just isn't into intercourse and prefers oral; there is no mandate that says all men must like intercourse, even if it is perhaps a bit unusual.

Bottom line: ask him.
And then make decisions based on your new knowledge.

Figure out the pros and cons of staying vs moving on and see where your knowledge and wants fit into that.


This was my post then btw.

I just took a glimpse of that other thread.
You said some very unflattering things about your then master-to-be.
And every other negative thing that was suggested about him was based upon information you put out on the thread.
I am sure that that blatant show of disrespect had NOTHING to do with your collar removal.

[8|]

You made a claim that it isn't hard for you to get men.
Does your husband know that too?




chatterbox24 -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/27/2012 10:47:41 AM)

THANK GOD I WOKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!

CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES OH YAH!


THis might not count for much, but my sincerest apologies to those who were trying to get through to me and for those I insulted.





OsideGirl -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/27/2012 11:19:28 AM)

Oy. I spend the weekend having fun with Master.....and......




kalikshama -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/27/2012 2:32:50 PM)

You woke up? Getting dumped is not a choice.




tameeks -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/27/2012 3:43:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You woke up? Getting dumped is not a choice.


I bit my tongue on that one! hahaha




OsideGirl -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/27/2012 3:50:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


Husband found this thread-showed it to Master-Husband made his threats about the media-wife explains the backlash children would suffer from such a move-husband says he doesnt care-Master leaves slave because of disloyalty


5 days......




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/29/2012 11:21:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


Feeling sorry for husband? DOnt, he won.


He did? Isn't he still stuck with you?

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He gets to keep his wife from a threat, one of the many threats through many years.



Yippeeeeee!! My, what a prize! Are you going to post here next time you do it?




SailingBum -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (2/29/2012 11:24:59 PM)

ehh I still call bull shit on her posts. Prolly some teenager

BadOne




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/1/2012 12:28:20 AM)

I think I missed a few episodes. None of this drama makes any sense to me. I was going to go back and research the original thread, but realized I couldn't care less. Forget tap tap tap....I"m going with rule #2 - The Double Tap.




sirsholly -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/1/2012 12:50:09 AM)




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IT is human nature for someone to have doubts when they are doing something they have never done, and that is totally giving of ones self. This is probably something most of you have no idea about. A true slave will perform and share anything and everything with a True Master. Its about total trust




Allow me to give this a re-write...




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IT is human nature for someone to have doubts when they are doing something they have never done, and that is totally giving of ones self. This is probably something most of you have no idea about. A GOOD WIFE will perform and share anything and everything with HER HUSBAND. Its about total trust...





22 years of marriage with children, and "giving of ones self" only happened with the putz you call a Master?
That is the epitome of selfishness in regard to your husband and children.





Sailasub -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 12:25:02 AM)

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people. A lot fo what I am reading here is "My kink is OK but your kink is not." Sad when you consider that if vanilla people at your work or community knew of your kink they would also condemn you without really understanding.

What I see here is a woman whose kink is to be used and humiliated but does not fully acknowledge this - or at least has not been able to explain it clearly to the group here. She's into being a doormat and the group criticizes her for that. Her original post was that she was not getting fucked or sodomized. She never said she expected to have an orgasm. I suspect she would be happy to get used and abused far more than she has been, and would accept denied orgasms as part of the expression of her master's control over her. Her master understood that and actually gave her what she wanted.

For those that start insisting that orgasm is necessary, that is your personal kink. My sub originally never expected to get orgasms but wanted to be fucked and used to satisfy me. It was a surprise when she started having orgasms but now I wonder if she hasn't gotten spoiled and if the relationship hasn't turned so that I am servicing her rather than her servicing me... LOL. Maybe when she recovers in a few months we can play with orgasm control an denial. :)

A sad angle of this is that OP sounds like a bit of a bitch in regular life, and she is matched with an asshole hubby. She told him what she was doing and was stupid enough not to be discreet with her online stuff. Hubby actually made an effort to find her stuff and find and contact the master. Obviously hubby is jealous / angry / vindictive. When the master dumped her hubby got what he wanted. Maybe he is even hoping that by being enough of an asshole he can get her back? Or at least get her to give him BJs... LOL.

As to why her master won't fuck/sodomize her - I can only guess that she is fat or old or otherwise unattractive so there is no incentive to do so. But even if she was OK looking there is little incentive to to so if she gives really good BJs. And there is plenty of incentive not to bang her... If she got what she wanted she might start thinking she is in control or important, and lose interest in the master. By denying her he keeps her wanting him. He might also not really care that much if he has other sluts or she is not attractive to him.

I think that OP needs to really re-evaluate her relationship with hubby and lay down some privacy and behavior rules or get out of the marriage. I think the kids are a real unfortunate victim here because the hubby sounds pretty screwed up given his vindictiveness and I am not sure the OP is any less vindictive, angry and shrewish. Emotions and behavior like this and the resulting tension is hard to hide from the kids. Hmmm.... maybe I should not give advice here since I'm in a bad marriage and "stayed for the kid....".

I am kind of looking for the next episode of this drama - after sufficient begging master will let her give him a BJ again... and she will again be unhappy that it's not more but happy to be on her knees.

OP - I think you should fill out your profile, post a picture and try to convince us why you are worthy as a sub/slut. You might get lucky and find another Dom every bit and maybe even more accomplished as your former Dom. Yes, you can fall for another just as hard if not harder.

Final thought - some here criticized the shared bank account. If the master were to use the money only for his own benefit then yes, it's a foolish move for her and is actually verging on him being a prostitute. (Of course she could be turned on at the thought of being used that way.) However, I know one sub who entered into a Financial Shibari arrangement like this. She and her hubby were always in financial straights and the master put them on a budget and kept some of the $$. Recently she needed a car, and the master bought it, cash. She would never have been able to do that in the past. Of course, she could be the exceptionally lucky one.





chatterbox24 -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 5:47:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sailasub

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people. A lot fo what I am reading here is "My kink is OK but your kink is not." Sad when you consider that if vanilla people at your work or community knew of your kink they would also condemn you without really understanding.What I see here is a woman whose kink is to be used and humiliated but does not fully acknowledge this - or at least has not been able to explain it clearly to the group here. She's into being a doormat and the group criticizes her for that. Her original post was that she was not getting fucked or sodomized. She never said she expected to have an orgasm. I suspect she would be happy to get used and abused far more than she has been, and would accept denied orgasms as part of the expression of her master's control over her. Her master understood that and actually gave her what she wanted.

For those that start insisting that orgasm is necessary, that is your personal kink. My sub originally never expected to get orgasms but wanted to be fucked and used to satisfy me. It was a surprise when she started having orgasms but now I wonder if she hasn't gotten spoiled and if the relationship hasn't turned so that I am servicing her rather than her servicing me... LOL. Maybe when she recovers in a few months we can play with orgasm control an denial. :)

A sad angle of this is that OP sounds like a bit of a bitch in regular life, and she is matched with an asshole hubby. She told him what she was doing and was stupid enough not to be discreet with her online stuff. Hubby actually made an effort to find her stuff and find and contact the master. Obviously hubby is jealous / angry / vindictive. When the master dumped her hubby got what he wanted. Maybe he is even hoping that by being enough of an asshole he can get her back? Or at least get her to give him BJs... LOL.

As to why her master won't fuck/sodomize her - I can only guess that she is fat or old or otherwise unattractive so there is no incentive to do so. But even if she was OK looking there is little incentive to to so if she gives really good BJs. And there is plenty of incentive not to bang her... If she got what she wanted she might start thinking she is in control or important, and lose interest in the master. By denying her he keeps her wanting him. He might also not really care that much if he has other sluts or she is not attractive to him.

I think that OP needs to really re-evaluate her relationship with hubby and lay down some privacy and behavior rules or get out of the marriage. I think the kids are a real unfortunate victim here because the hubby sounds pretty screwed up given his vindictiveness and I am not sure the OP is any less vindictive, angry and shrewish. Emotions and behavior like this and the resulting tension is hard to hide from the kids. Hmmm.... maybe I should not give advice here since I'm in a bad marriage and "stayed for the kid....".

I am kind of looking for the next episode of this drama - after sufficient begging master will let her give him a BJ again... and she will again be unhappy that it's not more but happy to be on her knees.

OP - I think you should fill out your profile, post a picture and try to convince us why you are worthy as a sub/slut. You might get lucky and find another Dom every bit and maybe even more accomplished as your former Dom. Yes, you can fall for another just as hard if not harder.

Final thought - some here criticized the shared bank account. If the master were to use the money only for his own benefit then yes, it's a foolish move for her and is actually verging on him being a prostitute. (Of course she could be turned on at the thought of being used that way.) However, I know one sub who entered into a Financial Shibari arrangement like this. She and her hubby were always in financial straights and the master put them on a budget and kept some of the $$. Recently she needed a car, and the master bought it, cash. She would never have been able to do that in the past. Of course, she could be the exceptionally lucky one.



Want to address this post.
Paragraph one: Alot of the posts recieved back by me were from peoples judgemental shitty comments. Continuos inisistance I was lying. Thus recieving back sarcastic bitchy comments in return.
Paragraph three: Sweet as honey unless provoked. I am a fire cracker and come out fighting. My master was the only one who could sooth those rages.
Paragraph four: I am not even going to argue about my appearance. You may think I am old ugly and fat. Maybe master thought so. He said I was attractive but who knows anymore. I picked him from a line up of many, so I cant be that nasty.
Paragraph five: Absolutely no arguments here
Paragraph 6 I begged a couple times in the relationship with a PLEASe, i thought well maybe thats what he wanted. But as a rule I DONT BEG. If that is some tell call sub trait I am absolutely not a sub.
Paragraph 7 I am not putting up a profile nor showing my picture. If I ever wanted to look (NO INTEREST) it would be looking to see who I found worthy not the other way around.

I loved my Master, still do. I think I was waiting around for him to please me, some kind of change over time. I became a doormat for HIM ONLY. He is not interchangable, there is no one like him. When I said he dumped me, I meant he said we needed to back off awhile, next time we talked I said we were through. It was just to much drama and I was fighting for someone I was never going to have a life with. It doesnt matter who dumped who anyway. Believe whatever you want. I couldnt keep being a doormat without it makng me terrible inside.
I only participated in this lifestyle because of him. I didnt know anything about, it was introduced to me. He was my interest and it was his interest, I did it for him. Took him many months to get me to where I got. Cause I really could not understand a one sided concept. If i woud have got a return on what I needed or wanted, not what he thought I needed or wanted. I would have kept fighting for the relationship. Yep thats right with kids, husband and all.
There is so much people dont know about this situation.

I think I was looking for a spiced vanilla relationship with him, one he could not give, one he wasnt interested in. When you give to somoene who has your best interest in mind its great! But then you give to somoene who has their best interest in mind, its crushing. The husband finding this thread, showing Master was just the end all. I was already asking all the questions to myself. "why am i doing this?" the only defense i had is "I love him" There is no way in hell I was going celibate for the rest of my life, or being passed to another guy cause the guy I loved couldnt perform. It all was just plain crazy, thats all I can say about it at the moment.




SoftBonds -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 6:00:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sailasub

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people. A lot fo what I am reading here is "My kink is OK but your kink is not." Sad when you consider that if vanilla people at your work or community knew of your kink they would also condemn you without really understanding.

What I see here is a woman whose kink is to be used and humiliated but does not fully acknowledge this - or at least has not been able to explain it clearly to the group here. She's into being a doormat and the group criticizes her for that. Her original post was that she was not getting fucked or sodomized. She never said she expected to have an orgasm. I suspect she would be happy to get used and abused far more than she has been, and would accept denied orgasms as part of the expression of her master's control over her. Her master understood that and actually gave her what she wanted.


That would explain putting her story out to everyone the way she did...




chatterbox24 -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 6:09:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sailasub

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people. A lot fo what I am reading here is "My kink is OK but your kink is not." Sad when you consider that if vanilla people at your work or community knew of your kink they would also condemn you without really understanding.

What I see here is a woman whose kink is to be used and humiliated but does not fully acknowledge this - or at least has not been able to explain it clearly to the group here. She's into being a doormat and the group criticizes her for that. Her original post was that she was not getting fucked or sodomized. She never said she expected to have an orgasm. I suspect she would be happy to get used and abused far more than she has been, and would accept denied orgasms as part of the expression of her master's control over her. Her master understood that and actually gave her what she wanted.


That would explain putting her story out to everyone the way she did...



I have to agree, I enjoyed being used by my master. But when I came on this forum it wasnt for that. I had a question that was driving me insane. I just didnt hear what I wanted to hear. I wanted to hear he had some grand plan, some bdsm plan I had no idea about. What I heard was YOUR A FOOL. ANd I was. No one wants to hear the truth when they are in love. Its to painful.

Being a sub/slave/giver/doormat/victim whatever you want to call it, was a one time deal for me.




kalikshama -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 7:18:26 AM)

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As to why her master won't fuck/sodomize her - I can only guess that she is fat or old or otherwise unattractive so there is no incentive to do so.


Oh, please. Couldn't have anything to do with his issues, could it?

I don't know if it was of her, but the picture the OP had earlier with the red gloves showed an attractive woman.




OsideGirl -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 7:28:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sailasub

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people.


Did you happen to read the first thread before posting this?




tameeks -> RE: Update on Master does not want to have sex (3/2/2012 7:48:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sailasub

What a fascinating, entertaining and sad thread. It really covers a wide range of human reactions and shows the less than pleasant and judgmental side of so many people.


Did you happen to read the first thread before posting this?



I'm going to go out on a limb here and say.... no!




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