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sub1986katsu -> Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 9:32:02 AM)

I’m here to ask a question on punishment and reward. Last night she had me set on a punishment to use ice on my nipples to torture me, which was exciting. Then she ordered me to slap my boy meat which was eventful, this was all for her enjoyment and all for the punishment for writing her name wrong on a note. *blushes, she also loves to tease me making me think of her nylons and panties. Making me sore while in chastity. As well as humiliating me like so. :)
What are your favorite Punishments and rewards?



OsideGirl -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 9:42:36 AM)

That's not punishment....it's funishment.

We don't really have a punishment dynamic, but the few instances where it as occurred......it was not fun, not even close.



sub1986katsu -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 9:52:35 AM)

i still hurt though, so in a way it was punishment mixed in with a bit of reward :)
but that is interesting that you get a bit more ;)



hangemhigh1953 -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 9:56:37 AM)

The best way to reward/punish a subbie is to just give or deny playtime.



sub1986katsu -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:16:33 AM)

interesting haha :):)



Kana -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:27:33 AM)

Behavioral modification occurs with a cane.
It ain't fun, it ain't pleasant and it always ends with her sobbing.
It's harsh, brutal and intended not to be forgotten.
What it ain't is anything like what you describe. It's a matter of her having disappointed me to a degree where I feel that strong consequences are required. She has to deal with shame, guilt, and self aggrandization (All self inflicted I might add-I rarely lay shit like that on folks-just don't feel right somehow) in addition to whatever amount of strokes I dish out...and lemme tell you from personal experience...she would take a thousand blows rather than feel the internal shit.



Lockit -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:32:09 AM)

Any punishment I would actually do... wouldn't be eventful, such as yours was. It would actually have the opposite effect, therefore I doubt you would like to hear about it.



sub1986katsu -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:39:32 AM)

well im very interested lockit :D:D



Kana -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:42:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Any punishment I would actually do... wouldn't be eventful, such as yours was. It would actually have the opposite effect, therefore I doubt you would like to hear about it.

Than mine?



MsLockitsKnyt -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:51:00 AM)

Punishment denotes having disappointed. When I disappoint one I am submitting to, I am ashamed. How can there be a favorite punishment for that?



Lockit -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 10:52:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Any punishment I would actually do... wouldn't be eventful, such as yours was. It would actually have the opposite effect, therefore I doubt you would like to hear about it.

Than mine?


LOL... No, sorry, I was doing a fast reply.



Lockit -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:00:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sub1986katsu

well im very interested lockit :D:D


Is that so? There is nothing kinky about any punishment I would give out. In fact, it would be a very rare occurrence and one that wouldn't be any fun for either person. I would not be happy that I had been pushed into doing something I would prefer not doing, but I would take great joy in knowing that it wouldn't happen again, once this little lesson had been learned.

If... IF my submissive didn't have the right attitude about what he had done and the need for punishment... meaning he really saw the error of his ways, what he did, what it meant and how it made me feel... the ultimate punishment would be release. I wouldn't punish someone for saying my name wrong or even calling me someone else. That is fun... or play. That isn't a relationship crime or anything of any merit deserving punishment. If I must punish... it is just like when someone makes me angry... I am more angry that they made me angry than over what they actually may have done. Punishment is not funishment and it is no joking or kinky matter. There is no enjoyment on either side, but could be a real risky situation if they value our relationship and the need for punishment suggests that they may not value it enough.



Kana -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:14:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Any punishment I would actually do... wouldn't be eventful, such as yours was. It would actually have the opposite effect, therefore I doubt you would like to hear about it.

Than mine?


LOL... No, sorry, I was doing a fast reply.



Cool-that's what I thought...grins...but wanted to be sure.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsLockitsKnyt

Punishment denotes having disappointed. When I disappoint one I am submitting to, I am ashamed. How can there be a favorite punishment for that?



Points at his post above-quotes from it...
"It's a matter of her having disappointed me to a degree where I feel that strong consequences are required. She has to deal with shame, guilt, and self aggrandization (All self inflicted I might add-I rarely lay shit like that on folks-just don't feel right somehow) in addition to whatever amount of strokes I dish out...and lemme tell you from personal experience...she would take a thousand blows rather than feel the internal shit."

Nothing fun at all about feeling like that. It's the worst part of being a sub/slave.



sub1986katsu -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:20:12 AM)

i see i see, i did take it very seriously though. I took the punishment as serious as possible, though i put it on here in a fun loose way, i see you have taken the way i wrote it a bit harsh, i was putting it in a light way i guess.. hrmmm, but i did take seriousness to teh punishment and I made a good applogy..



ScatteredRose -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:24:35 AM)

For me, punishment is corner time, no play time, not getting to do other things I enjoy...So it's kind of like punishing a little kid.
If there ever is physical punishment, all my previous owners would change their demeanor, and not say anything when they'd spank me. It'd normally be with a paddle or some kind of paddle implement since I hate them.

But if someone spanks me for bad behavior, I don't see that as a punishment. I see that as a "Okay, you can continue your bad behavior, I'm not gonna say anything about it." :P



sub1986katsu -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:27:57 AM)

thats sweet scatteredRose, have we talked before? hrmmm your name seems soo familiar haha lol



ScatteredRose -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:28:51 AM)

I'm not sure.

But yeah...Punishment and Funishment are two different things, and I think in a relationship, it should be discussed on what is different so boundaries aren't crossed.



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:30:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

That's not punishment....it's funishment.

We don't really have a punishment dynamic, but the few instances where it as occurred......it was not fun, not even close.



Have to agree with OsideGirl.

Also, for me best punishment is being ignored or being denied play. There is usually no need for anything beyond that. So will echo the sentiments of others who have expressed this thought.



Cuffkinks -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:39:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Behavioral modification occurs with a cane.
It ain't fun, it ain't pleasant and it always ends with her sobbing.
It's harsh, brutal and intended not to be forgotten.
What it ain't is anything like what you describe. It's a matter of her having disappointed me to a degree where I feel that strong consequences are required. She has to deal with shame, guilt, and self aggrandization (All self inflicted I might add-I rarely lay shit like that on folks-just don't feel right somehow) in addition to whatever amount of strokes I dish out...and lemme tell you from personal experience...she would take a thousand blows rather than feel the internal shit.



Exactly the same here. My little girl hates the cane. HATES it. It isn't used in play. It isn't used for "funishment." If it comes out, it means she did something that needs swift, harsh, and unforgettable correction. As bad as it is and as much as she hates it, she takes it, and she's a total mess afterwards. And as you said Kana, the "internal shit" she feels is much worse on her. Knowing she disappointed me is worse to her than anything I might dish out.
Let me happily add that the cane RARELY comes out. It's a last resort after any/all other methods of correction fail.



ScatteredRose -> RE: Punishment and rewards (2/22/2012 11:42:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks


Exactly the same here. My little girl hates the cane. HATES it. It isn't used in play. It isn't used for "funishment." If it comes out, it means she did something that needs swift, harsh, and unforgettable correction. As bad as it is and as much as she hates it, she takes it, and she's a total mess afterwards. And as you said Kana, the "internal shit" she feels is much worse on her. Knowing she disappointed me is worse to her than anything I might dish out.
Let me happily add that the cane RARELY comes out. It's a last resort after any/all other methods of correction fail.


That's the worst punishment any submissive can feel...Feeling like they have failed.



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