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A real angry political debate thread... - 2/22/2012 8:54:07 PM

SoftBonds

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OK, Abortion, Dems vs Repubs, all that stuff may get folks kinda active, but lets have a real debate now.
Linux vs Windows, GO:
(You Mac weirdos can participate too)...

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/22/2012 9:30:44 PM

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(You Mac weirdos can participate too)...

Mac users ought to be legally obliged to wear a bell to counteract their smugness...

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/22/2012 9:30:46 PM

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 4:35:53 AM

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No public funds should be used for the military. War is against my religion.

< Message edited by farglebargle -- 2/23/2012 4:36:12 AM >

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 5:01:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

OK, Abortion, Dems vs Repubs, all that stuff may get folks kinda active, but lets have a real debate now.
Linux vs Windows, GO:
(You Mac weirdos can participate too)...

Too late. The upcoming fight will be Android vs iPhone and Win phone platforms.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 5:09:48 AM

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

No public funds should be used for Macs either!

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 5:37:09 AM

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

No public funds should be used for Macs either!

b/c Macs do the work of SATAN. . . . . just ask Rick.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 5:45:10 AM

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

Yeah, dammit!! Maybe we should all be bitching because Microsoft and Linux haven't created apps to allow for the legal access!!!

Alright, to address the intent of the OP....

My choice would be Windows, at this point in time. I'm not OS-savvy enough to adapt and maintain a Linux system to my liking. It's beautiful that it's open-source, and free. That's also it's downfall. Being open source, there will be more flavors than @ Baskin-Robbins. That also makes patching, updating and upgrading a bit laborious unless you are technically adept at such things.

Currently, I am not, though I do hold out the potential to change that at some point in the future.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 6:32:48 AM

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I use a Ubuntu/WinXP dual boot machine. The only real trick was getting Windows to play nice with Ubuntu. I ended up formatting the HD, installing Ubuntu and making my non-Ubuntu drive partition the C drive. Windows installed itself on the C drive and was happily unaware of the other partitions.
I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the ease of use of Ubuntu. I'm pretty sure there are other easy to use Linux variants.
I've advocated that the US government should switch from Windows to Ubuntu. It is more secure (takes an admin password to change anything the user doesn't need to change), but is just as easy to use. In some ways easier.
That said, I have the XP partition to allow me to play games. Ubuntu is good for internet, word processing, and virus cleaning (oh no, I have a virus, switch to Linux and watch the virus go "what the heck"). Windows is for games.
Course right now I'm using my laptop, and since I don't have my portable HD available I can't re-format this puppy to add Ubuntu... So I'm dealing with Win7...

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 6:39:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

Yeah, dammit!! Maybe we should all be bitching because Microsoft and Linux haven't created apps to allow for the legal access!!!

Alright, to address the intent of the OP....

My choice would be Windows, at this point in time. I'm not OS-savvy enough to adapt and maintain a Linux system to my liking. It's beautiful that it's open-source, and free. That's also it's downfall. Being open source, there will be more flavors than @ Baskin-Robbins. That also makes patching, updating and upgrading a bit laborious unless you are technically adept at such things.

Currently, I am not, though I do hold out the potential to change that at some point in the future.

Yeah. typing 'sudo yum update' is a real fucking burden... Clicking the red-flashing icon on the bottom right of the screen where PackageKit is giving you the opportunity to do it for you is even a more onerous task...

< Message edited by farglebargle -- 2/23/2012 6:40:27 AM >

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 6:45:29 AM

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Linux runs with so much more flexibility and less overhead for large-scale computations that Windoze has become nearly useless for serious science-technology applications. However, Micro$oft leveraged Window$ into such pervasive use in commercial bizzness that it became a defacto standard. And the Mac stuff, despite its Unix origins, remains about 90% wannabe-iconoclastic hype about 'interfaces' ... Blah ...

Why izzit that just about every business that does enough tele-comm, data-handling, or web-content to employ more than the boss's idiot progeny as their info-tech staff runs Unix/Linux servers and Windoze personals? And the Mac places are all about marketing appearance? ...

Different horses for different courses. And speaking from the perspective of OS/360, SCOPE, VAX/VMS, etc, from (sheesh, has it been that long?) 40 years ago, back in the days of phone-couplers and console-chat, (that's way before BBS and AOL), most people really don't know enough about what's going on behind the screen to make more than dilettantish comments about operating systems. All they ever see are the graphic interfaces and whether the box crashes or not, and connects or not.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 7:38:28 AM

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Politics? Frankly, I think it all went to hell after the Whig Party disintegrated into the Republican and American Parties.

Dems vs. Reps? From where I sit, it's mostly the difference between the far left and loony left.

OS? I use KDE over Linux. Minix's design and implementation are much better, but I don't have the time or inclination to tilt at that windmill any more.

Smartphone? I simply wish someone made a small, simple cellular phone with reasonable sound quality. Every phone I've tried lately has squelch and voice compression turned to "11" and sounds like the person on the other end is talking into a bucket.

Abortion? Unless half of the genetic material in question is yours, I view it as a private medical matter between a woman and her doctor.

Religion? A whole bunch of Believers are going to be bummed if it turns out it was Marduk or Quetzalcoatl all along...

Economics? As long as Congress continues to believe it can spend its way out of bankruptcy, it doesn't much matter if you're a follower of Karl Marx or Adam Smith.

Political platform if I was running for President? Even the hardcore Libertarians would probably get a little pale around the gills. The Republicrats would probably have collective infarctions. Of course, there'd probably be a downside somewhere...

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 8:25:04 AM

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I use a Mac, mainly because I find Apple slightly less disgusting than Microsoft.
(Though as several have pointed out already, the Mac isn't a big deal for Apple anymore, and they're concentrating on toys like the iPhone instead.)
If I was using a PC, I'd definitely use LINUX. Most of the distros I've seen of that are a cinch to install and maintain.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 8:32:09 AM

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Why izzit that just about every business that does enough tele-comm, data-handling, or web-content to employ more than the boss's idiot progeny as their info-tech staff runs Unix/Linux servers and Windoze personals? And the Mac places are all about marketing appearance? ...

It's mostly because all of the telecom and data handling applications that were any use started off on UNIX and it's easier to port them to LINUX than anything else, and the fact that the first thing Macs did better than any other platform was DTP. Both established precedents, which means that artsy stuff (particularly by fuckwits with bohemian pretensions and little self awareness) tends to be seen as a Mac thing and highly technical stuff (particular if IT staff want to flaunt their guru status) tends to be seen as a LINUX or UNIX thing.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 12:21:19 PM

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Abortion and contraception should be legal and a women's access to those services should be unrestrained, but no public funds should be used to provide them.

Yeah, dammit!! Maybe we should all be bitching because Microsoft and Linux haven't created apps to allow for the legal access!!!

Alright, to address the intent of the OP....

My choice would be Windows, at this point in time. I'm not OS-savvy enough to adapt and maintain a Linux system to my liking. It's beautiful that it's open-source, and free. That's also it's downfall. Being open source, there will be more flavors than @ Baskin-Robbins. That also makes patching, updating and upgrading a bit laborious unless you are technically adept at such things.

Currently, I am not, though I do hold out the potential to change that at some point in the future.

Yeah. typing 'sudo yum update' is a real fucking burden... Clicking the red-flashing icon on the bottom right of the screen where PackageKit is giving you the opportunity to do it for you is even a more onerous task...

Damn, man! I have to type and click?!?!? Fuck that! I'll just stick to waving my +3 Wand of Updates and chanting, "Klaatu barada nikto."

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 4:12:53 PM

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Damn, man! I have to type and click?!?!? Fuck that! I'll just stick to waving my +3 Wand of Updates and chanting, "Klaatu barada nikto."

Careful there! Do you know what "Klaatu barada nikto" means?

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 4:21:45 PM

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Hastur, Hastur, Hastur, erk...

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 5:18:56 PM

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Damn, man! I have to type and click?!?!? Fuck that! I'll just stick to waving my +3 Wand of Updates and chanting, "Klaatu barada nikto."

Careful there! Do you know what "Klaatu barada nikto" means?

I don't care what it means. It updates my computer with less hassle than before when I had to say "Beetlejuice" 3 times, which was still an upgrade over saying "Candyman" 3 times into a mirror.

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RE: A real angry political debate thread... - 2/23/2012 7:11:37 PM

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most people really don't know enough about what's going on behind the screen to make more than dilettantish comments about operating systems. All they ever see are the graphic interfaces and whether the box crashes or not, and connects or not.

This. I'm on XP, though I do know enough to know I don't care for Win7 all that much. It wasn't compatible with the game I often play--slowed down the game because it took up too many of my resources (or so my son explained). My son has both XP and Ubuntu on his computer. And he teaches a computer class at the local mental health association on Ubuntu--chosen because it is free and the agency couldn't afford to purchase all those operating systems--after a series of classes in basic computer use, the students take home the computers they'd been using in class.

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