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SternSkipper -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/24/2012 5:53:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cerius1

Cultural Marxism: a term used by right wing ideologues to connect any and all ideas that they disagree with to Marxism, thus frightening simpletons while at the same time providing a veneer of intellectualism to their narrow minded and morally bankrupt world view. See Pat Buchanan; John Birch Society



Did you not read what I said? Cultural Marxism would have been rejected by Marx, and he himself never had anything to do with it; rather, the Frankfurt School applied a modified form of his dialectic to non-economic social phenomenon. Cultural Marxism/Critical Theory....there's no difference.

Your (first) post reeks of a narrow-minded simpleton. You clearly don't understand the topic at hand.


Quit listening to all those audiobooks on the commute to the head shop every morning they're making you sound just like Rush Limbaugh.
[:D]




farglebargle -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/24/2012 6:00:32 PM)

Paleocons aren't the ones listening to Rush and Fox....




Politesub53 -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/24/2012 6:03:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Paleocons aren't the ones listening to Rush and Fox....


My bad, I meant neocons.




provfivetine -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/24/2012 6:34:51 PM)

Alright then. Point taken. It will hitherto be referred to as its proper name in accordance with the Frankfurt School: critical theory. (I've been labeling it cultural marxism because most don't know what critical theory is.)

Critical theory is infecting America. [8D]

Ironically, Jurgen Habermas--pioneer of the Frankfurt School and critical theory--is one of my biggest influences, despite my numerous reservations regarding his philosophy (yet I cannot go into this here). These people are wildly intelligent, yet they all suffer from the same corresponding blindness towards scarcity.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/24/2012 8:18:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I think that these days people fail to realize how extreme the Right has gotten. It is my personal opinion that the attack on 9-11 did more psychological damage to the U.S. than people realize. There's a joke that "A man becomes a Conservative the first time he gets mugged, and a liberal the first time he goes to jail." Perhaps 9/11 was America getting mugged, but it seems that everything shifted one step to the right. Bill Maher likes to say, "The Left moved to the center, and the Right moved into an insane asylum." There are things that lend merit to this. Here are some things to put it in perspective:

First let's start with Dick Cheney talking about Iraq in '94, before 9-11:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EstVJo6URdQ

Going back further, here is conservative icon Barry Goldwater, on the subject of the Religious Right:

"I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."

Going back even further, here's Republican President Teddy Roosevelt, sounding like a member of Occupy Wall Street:

"there can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put an end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.

We must have complete and effective publicity of corporate affairs, so that the people may know beyond peradventure whether the corporations obey the law and whether their management entitles them to the confidence of the public. It is necessary that laws should be passed to prohibit the use of corporate funds directly or indirectly for political purposes; it is still more necessary that such laws should be thoroughly enforced. Corporate expenditures for political purposes, and especially such expenditures by public-service corporations, have supplied one of the principal sources of corruption in our political affairs. ”





Sweety, I don't even know where to begin.

A few months after Bush Jr. won, I was watching a cable channel....and (oddly) it was of Cheney, in the cabinet room....the big table....surrounded by oil folks....and I swear to you on my sons life....he said...on cable....I swear....I wish I would have had a tape in: "what do you want? You put us here....what do you want?"

Weirdest damn thing I've ever seen (and I ain't a fucking nut case).




Moonhead -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/25/2012 6:37:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

Alright then. Point taken. It will hitherto be referred to as its proper name in accordance with the Frankfurt School: critical theory. (I've been labeling it cultural marxism because most don't know what critical theory is.)

Critical theory is infecting America. [8D]

If you're influenced by critical theory, you should know enough about it to keep the sociological and critical elements of it separate instead of lumping them together.




GotSteel -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/25/2012 1:35:23 PM)

I'm a little surprised that no one has brought this up yet. Here's one of Reagans advisers Bruce Bartlett calling the Republican Party insane: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-22-2012/bruce-bartlett




Aswad -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/25/2012 1:38:09 PM)

Honestly, the first time I heard the term "cultural marxism" used, was the 7/22 massacre on Utøya.

The guy's manifesto and online rhetoric read about the same as provfivetine's post, to the point where I started wondering if he had started posting on CM from his cell. Really creepy. Not that I'm implying provfivetine is that sort of person. Just that what he said made about as much sense, and "tasted" about the same. That it appears, almost identically, in two so dramatically different cultures with so different approaches to every aspect of the politics and culture criticized, indicates to me that it's probably not grounded in any rational analysis.

Be interesting to see something to suggest otherwise, of course.

Health,
al-Aswad.




thompsonx -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/25/2012 2:09:15 PM)

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Did you not read what I said? Cultural Marxism would have been rejected by Marx, and he himself never had anything to do with it;


You say that marx would have had nothing to do with cultural marxism yet you use the term as if it were part and parcel of marxism. If it is not marxism then call it what it is and not what you want to call it to denigrate marxism.
You do understand that everyone else out here recognizes that your post is a study in contradiction.
"Cultural marxism has nothing to do with carl marx but it is called cultural marxism to define it as marxists and as such is bad"




thompsonx -> RE: Republican's weren't always THIS crazy. (2/25/2012 2:14:39 PM)

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Alright then. Point taken. It will hitherto be referred to as its proper name in accordance with the Frankfurt School: critical theory. (I've been labeling it cultural marxism because most don't know what critical theory is.)


If you had labled it critical theory in the first place no one would have jumped in your shit about this nonsense about "cultural marxism" which no one knew your definition of either.


Critical theory is infecting America.

Is this because some people are upfed and sick of some punk ass motherfucker sending their sons and daughters off to die so rich people can be richer?




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