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The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/24/2012 3:20:26 PM

housesub4you

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The Catholic Church, and the Vatican, have pulled something over the eyes of the people of the USA. The Vatican is a member and recognized as a separate country Take the asshole from Boston who raped all those young boys, he was promoted to a position in the vatican and given diplomatic immunity, so when he travels to the USA he can't be arrested

So who are the Bishops representing, or the Cardinals speaking for, the people they serve or the nation they support?Is not a country who does not support our government seen as an enemy or a country who attempts to influence our elections seen as a threat???

Why does this church get special attention and not held accountable for their actions?

Seems the USA was started to get away from the power of the church and now they want to use it to control our future

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RE: The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/24/2012 4:01:27 PM

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They serve the interests of the people who are in power.

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RE: The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/24/2012 4:44:47 PM

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Seems the USA was started to get away from the power of the church and now they want to use it to control our future

Context???

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RE: The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/24/2012 9:31:10 PM

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Far be it from me to defend Bernard Francis Law, "the asshole from Boston who raped all those young boys", but the incoherent attack in the OP requires a fact or two just to bring it within a few light years of any reality.

No complaint ever alleged that "the asshole from Boston" raped anyone, ever, let alone "all those young boys". Law was accused of declining to disclose the names of priests accused of sexual abuse.

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he was promoted to a position in the vatican and given diplomatic immunity, so when he travels to the USA he can't be arrested

Arrested? By who? For what? The fact is, Law had been fully investigated by the state attorney general and all five district attorneys in the counties in which the Boston Archdiocese operates. The state attorney general severely criticised Law but he did not allege that Law had tried to evade investigation and he did state that Law had not broken any laws.

The rest of the OP descends into foreigners-trying-to-control-us paranoia that isn't worth further comment, except perhaps at the next Klan meeting. It certainly doesn't shed any light on Law, which is a pity.

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RE: The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/24/2012 10:34:17 PM

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Take the asshole from Boston who raped all those young boys, he was promoted to a position in the vatican and given diplomatic immunity, so when he travels to the USA he can't be arrested

I think you're referring to the Bernard Law, who was promoted from Arch Bishop to Cardinal. Course he didn't "rape" anyone, but there's more than one implication that he knowingly transferred priests who had to "out of the way" parishes.
I gotta say that while I think this guy could have done MANY things right sooner, in the end, I think he started the diocese on a path back from destruction and that he was more immature than arrogant in his not making a choice to turn them over to police. I think once they were aware of the enormity, the Arch Diocese went into what was literally a state of shock.
Does that make what they did right? CERTAINLY NOT. But to state that you 'know' he didn't just get the promotion ALL the other Arch Bishops get, I dunno if that's done hime much good. And if you want to bust him.. he's all yours....

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1121disgraced_cardinal_bernard_law_resigns_vatican_post

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RE: The Catholic Church and it's ... - 2/25/2012 12:12:30 AM

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Seems the USA was started to get away from the power of the church and now they want to use it to control our future

One of the problems manifesting itself today is a miss-understanding of exactly what was intended by the First Amendment.

The language specifically says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;.....

Now, what that meant was that the country wouldn't (couldn't) have an official religion. So, unlike a country that might have a State Church, the US would not. In addition, the State would not prohibit any religion. That was important largely because the states (the original 13 colonies) were vastly different, and often identified by their religious practices.

It was never intended that Congress couldn't pass laws that not all religions approved. For example, there is nothing in the Constitution that says you can force birth control upon someone whose religion believes otherwise. By the same token, you can't deny birth control simply because one religion doesn't believe in it. THAT is the crux of many of the recent arguments.

It was a given that the founding fathers were deeply religious men. They assumed that their religious beliefs would affect their decisions, but specifically stated that laws couldn't impose religious beliefs...something that today's candidates clearly do not understand or comprehend. The most recent issues have breached the boundary, but from the outside. Whereas the original occupants of the Garden of Eden believed the boundary hedge protected them from the wilderness, the current folks seem to believe that have the right to impose their own rules outside of the hedge. My guess is that they're going to find out otherwise in November...in a very loud NO!

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