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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:25:16 AM

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Well okay peeps to each their own. Im a tiny teeny weeny bit shocked to say the least.

If thats what you like to do, alrighty then. I think I will stick to not having sex and assisting with sutures to wounds only.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:26:46 AM

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Funny thing-We (Meaning me while she listened, moaned and whimpered) were talking just last night about having her sew her own cunt shut while I watched.
I kinda suspect that one of us liked the idea a whole helluva lot more than the other

I've carved things on her, not her feet but other places. skewered her, used needles to sew her cunt shut, whipped (again and again) her to shreds and will almost no doubt at one point staple both sets of lips shut.

That's not to mention the cigarettes, torches etc...

No training wheels here :-)

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:32:53 AM

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I was thinking of you when I failed to bold any of the acts and just focused on her withdrawal of consent.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:42:02 AM

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Thought so.

See, that's my line.
To paraphrase the Pearl Jam
song-when she says she wants to go, you better let her.

I like all the acts the guy did. But the non-consent, the holding her against her will, the violation of her trust, yeah, that makes my stomach churn...and not in a good way at all.

This idiot deserves everything he's got coming.
Hold a gal against her will-they call it kidnapping, or at least unlawful detainment.
Hurt her-it's battery, use an instrument like a cane it's most likely ADW, hurt her bad it's attempted murder and touch her in any way and it's a clear case of first degree rape, not to mention the violation of numerous sex crime statutes.

Fuck, that's a whole handful of life sentences there.

He gets no sympathy here. Not one freaking lick.
Hope he likes playing with the hard boys in prison-he's about to find out exactly how tough and masterful he is

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:44:23 AM

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I can see tatoos, no biggie..............but then on the other side of the spectrum...........EYES SHOWN SHUT? SKIN BRAIDING????

Honestly, its hard for me to even think that those things are being performed out there. People are agreeing to it, its one of those unthinkable things to me. So ignorance is not such a bad thing. Its your body if its TRULY a consenual thing then ok. But it makes me wonder when someone is tied up, ready to get these things done at some point they might change their mind....and Im hoping they have a controlled sadist on the other side...........cause damn scarey to think someone is in that situation and the safe word cant be heard because of someones desire becomes to great to perform the action and they just keep doing it and doing it while the sub is screaming.
Sounds like a CSI show to me.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:47:46 AM

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But sometimes that's what someone is looking for. Someone who can take control of that and do whatever they're going to do. Sometimes it's an "object" thing. A zone where a changed mind doesn't matter, or the option doesn't exist. =p But it IS happening in a controlled situation with someone you do trust, and the trust allows for those options to not exist. =p

It may not ever be possible for you to relate to, but some people really don't use safewords. And everything turns out okay in the end.

have you ever heard of something called consensual nonconsent?

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:51:01 AM

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I can see tatoos, no biggie..............but then on the other side of the spectrum...........EYES SHOWN SHUT? SKIN BRAIDING????

Honestly, its hard for me to even think that those things are being performed out there. People are agreeing to it, its one of those unthinkable things to me. So ignorance is not such a bad thing. Its your body if its TRULY a consenual thing then ok. But it makes me wonder when someone is tied up, ready to get these things done at some point they might change their mind....and Im hoping they have a controlled sadist on the other side...........cause damn scarey to think someone is in that situation and the safe word cant be heard because of someones desire becomes to great to perform the action and they just keep doing it and doing it while the sub is screaming.
Sounds like a CSI show to me.

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But sometimes that's what someone is looking for. Someone who can take control of that and do whatever they're going to do. Sometimes it's an "object" thing. A zone where a changed mind doesn't matter, or the option doesn't exist. =p But it IS happening in a controlled situation with someone you do trust, and the trust allows for those options to not exist. =p

It may not ever be possible for you to relate to, but some people really don't use safewords. And everything turns out okay in the end.

have you ever heard of something called consensual nonconsent?

And it ain't like I do these things right off the bat in first play.
These things take time, time to build the trust, time to learn her reactions, buttons.
Start slow and build up as time progresses and the two explore deeper.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 8:52:42 AM

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Just for the record, *I* had pics on Glenn's site.

No, I never spent time with him, but I DID spend hours chatting with him. Spent hours chatting with his girls (including jodi). Not once that I am aware of did jodi ever talk to ANYONE outside the relationship about wanting out.

I like Glenn. He's not my cuppa, at all, but he was quite interesting to talk to.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:00:45 AM

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Yes I have read about it.

Well if people are agreeing to it, they like it, they want it, and they trust the person enough to do it its their life they are entitled to do these things if they are in their right mind.

Its very hard for me to relate too. I dont ever think I could trust someone with those tendencies to always have total control. It reminds me of a gateway drug, people start with something small and build to a full blown addiction and sometimes Od as the result. IT goes out of control.
THey dont mean to do it, but the desire just was tooooooooo great to stop.

Could be related to an extreme sport too, you know you might die or get maimed but you love it so much you will take your chances

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:33:05 AM

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Yes I have read about it.

Well if people are agreeing to it, they like it, they want it, and they trust the person enough to do it its their life they are entitled to do these things if they are in their right mind.

Its very hard for me to relate too. I dont ever think I could trust someone with those tendencies to always have total control. It reminds me of a gateway drug, people start with something small and build to a full blown addiction and sometimes Od as the result. IT goes out of control.
THey dont mean to do it, but the desire just was tooooooooo great to stop.

Could be related to an extreme sport too, you know you might die or get maimed but you love it so much you will take your chances

Or maybe she trusts me because I do have total control, that I would never maim her and never do anything that caused serious injury...you know, because I'm a sane rational human being...which is a big part of why she chose me to submit too.

She trusts me because I am, and have proven to be, worthy of trust.
Not once, not twice, but proven a thousand times in a thousand little ways.

Edited to add-And this is coming from a guy who does extreme sports that folks, even the experts, die routinely doing

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:35:01 AM

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It isnn't necessarily the same as a gateway drug - sometimes the escalation is a by-product of feeling like you really ARE safe to explore something you've been interested in - or you create the possibility, together, of going down the rabbit hole. My late M was the first guy who ever punched me in a consensual way. I was the first girl he'd ever punched, period. And we both found that we really liked it. :p

Annnd it's possible, yeah, that someone could get swept away in their own mind and be unable to stop, but part of picking someone who might be a good fit, is picking someone you believe has a consistent, measured demeanor. Someone who's prone to flying off the handle over small things would probably not be someone i'd pick to play this way with. There is A LOT that goes into building trust and it doesn't start this way from day 1 in most cases. I have to trust that he wonn't kill me and he has to trust that I won't run straight to the cops. :p

Both parties take risks. I'm nnot goinng to try to bamboozle you, I just want to present some thinngs for you to think about, if'n you're interested, anyway.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:35:33 AM

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see? you scare me... LOL

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:38:18 AM

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No, I never spent time with him, but I DID spend hours chatting with him. Spent hours chatting with his girls (including jodi). Not once that I am aware of did jodi ever talk to ANYONE outside the relationship about wanting out.

I'm not familiar with the case. How did it come to the Fed's attention?

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:44:17 AM

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see? you scare me... LOL

This is so funny cuz in RL, I'm this happy go lucky, super easy going, overall pretty damn fun sort of guy.
Yeah, I have hard edges. And yeah, I tend to like things done right and to have structure.
And yeah, I speak my mind w/o fear.
But a really bad ass frightening man-that ain't me at all :-)

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:49:11 AM

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jodi contacted the fbi, iirc.

Kail, read the whole page that you linked.

then refer to my post about having spoken to her and glenn.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:50:15 AM

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See those kinds of dichotomies are fascinating. :p That's the way M was - a big funny guy sometimes, who'd go to the park, play with my dogs, do shadow puppets, and then punch me, choke me, spit on me, hit me with a strap until I was covered inn ropey welts, and call me names. :p

Gotta love well-rounded, multi-faceted people. :p

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:51:00 AM

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Kail, read the whole page that you linked.

Ya, I had to stop reading. Will remedy that.

ETA - Still not sure to what part you are referring.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:53:29 AM

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see? you scare me... LOL

This is so funny cuz in RL, I'm this happy go lucky, super easy going, overall prett damn fun sort of guy.
Yeah, I have hard edges. And yeah, I tend to like things done right and to have structure.
And yeah, I speak my mind w/o fear.
But a really bad ass frighteing man-that ain't me at all :-)

I can attest to that...he's the most adorable, loving, compassionate men I've ever met. <uh oh...I've outed him.

> He's only frightening when he gets that devious little glint in his eye along with the grin. Then you look for a corner to crawl into. hehehe

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:53:52 AM

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I was thinking of you when I failed to bold any of the acts and just focused on her withdrawal of consent.

Yup, it's not about the acts.....it's about the context.

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RE: Dom/sub master/slave horror stories - 3/8/2012 9:55:46 AM

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This conversation strikes a chord. My Mistress often worries that she's not enough for me because when my health allows I like a lot of pain, I like to be dangled by my breasts, have my nipples sewn/pierced together, etc. Things which barring the danlgin part she can't psychologically do. In short I am far more masochistic than she is sadistic. So the chord is a reverse I remember promising her I wouldn't push for things beyond her ability to inflict, and I also spent time reassuring her that I'm hers because I'm hers, not because she's some cartoon Domina.

Besides if I wasn't with her I would submit to no-one anyway. She's a one off my Mistress C. :-) *happy contented sigh*

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