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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/2/2012 6:52:42 AM   
fucktoyprincess


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ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

Imagine the Op as a military officer...
"Everyone is calling me sir, deferring to me, listening to me, they must all be submissive..."
(meanwhile the enlisted are thinking 'what an ass')



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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/2/2012 1:16:22 PM   
Killerangel


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009


That's not called "dominance" (or "domiance", as you called it). That's called being an asshole.

You clearly have a lot to learn about what constitutes true D/s. Blatant disrespect is typically not a core element.


Exactly.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/2/2012 1:30:09 PM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		Just shakes head.

I really despair at how clueless some men are about submissive women.

I am totally alpha in my daily life yet I am sexually submissive.

Nothing at all about the OP's story could even be construed as a woman acting submissive to a Dominant. Jeez.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/2/2012 1:55:14 PM   
Killerangel


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls, a quite diverse response. I probably mispoke when I said I spoke down to her, the problem I was having was that she was being so deferal I couldn't get a straight answer out of her. So I was doing a lot of pumping for information, when I said she looked scared, perhaps you gals were right and she was just scared about not having a answer to the questions I was posing. Buts as your responses show personias can change depending upon the cercumstaince. I agree that people can be passive or shy, in public and not be sexual submissive. I just got a really strong feeling that she was being purposefully submissive, both times I have talked to her. Once maybe she was ready to bite my neck as one sub said, but twice? As for just asking her out, ...I just might. And as for a posible boyfriend, if ...if she started to date me then she would be effectly broken up with him anyway, or they could be nothing serious, who knows but her.


Your condescending use of the term girls gives me a good idea of what you were doing in the pet store to the woman who waited on you and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's interesting how you ignored all the responses from men and lumped the ones from the 'girls' into a category that is supposedly diverse- it's not, they were all the same.

It honestly seems that from the content of your posts you don't have a great understanding of what Dominance and submission is. It also doesn't seem as though you understand social interaction very well. If I were you I'd figure out those things better.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/2/2012 2:03:18 PM   
dharkling


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

I go to the pet store to buy some fish the other day. The nice young lady assisting me was VERY deferale, and this is the second time I have met her and she acted the same way before. I would ask question and she would answer, allways saying Yes Sir, No Sir, ect. Now I know part of that might be being respectfull of me as a customer but I have NEVER been treated so in a Store. She seem generally afraid that I was disappointed in her answer. Maybe she was picking up on my domiance, as I was clearly talking down/to her? Any way my question to you self relized subs out there is she a natural Submissive and could I (if Pushed her) a bit own/take her? How do I know if she is or not, even if she dosen't understand herself. I need to find out if has a boyfriend. Hell would if even matter if she did because maybe he isn't giving her what she truely disires/needs.



I am a submissive but I hate it when doms use this line of thinking as a route to get in my pants. From the sounds of things you were making the poor girl extremely uncomfortable. Being afraid that you might be disappointed in her answer isn't an invitation for you to try and push her into bellying-up to you.

Could you take her if you pushed? Possibly. Would she feel good about it after it was all said and done? Probably not. I know that when doms have pushed me to the point where I simply broke down and gave in, I always felt really miserable about myself after he was done.

Several people have offered you some really good advice though. If you're genuinely interested in her, do ask her out but don't try to push her into submitting to you. Don't talk down to her as a way of showing her how dommly you are. At some point during the first (or second) date you can mention your interest in a D/s relationship and ask her how she feels about submission.

And if she turns you down and doesn't want to date you, don't act like a jerk about it.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/8/2012 6:55:11 PM   
juliadryad


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Status: offline 		I think the answer is .. maybe, maybe yes . High potential... but who knows. Misreads are possible. I get that with gaydar sometimes, too.
she may be but not know it yet.
p.s. spelling is very important. in this society, intelligence is strength. i tend to stop talking to people with bad spelling.

< Message edited by juliadryad -- 3/8/2012 6:56:50 PM >

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/9/2012 4:05:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls, a quite diverse response. I probably mispoke when I said I spoke down to her, (snip)


Somehow, I doubt it.



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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/9/2012 12:52:57 PM   
CRYPTICLXVI


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ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

Imagine the Op as a military officer...
"Everyone is calling me sir, deferring to me, listening to me, they must all be submissive..."
(meanwhile the enlisted are thinking 'what an ass')


Taking this thought farther. I once had a job doing release of information, I dealt with everyone from patients to government, law enforcement and military. I had one recruiter needing a file and I needed a patient signature or a court order to release the entire file. He got his CO who came in all self-important and insisted that they needed it now, I informed him also, patient signature or court order...the officer continued this for several minutes, trying to intimidate me and finally I told him that I was certain in the military he was quite important but to me, he was just a man in a funny costume who needed a signature or a court order.



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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/9/2012 2:46:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

I told him that I was certain in the military he was quite important but to me, he was just a man in a funny costume who needed a signature or a court order.






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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 2:01:00 AM   
MasterC


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Status: offline 		sounds like your domaneering and not domanant. yoiu never talk down to a sub

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 3:34:37 AM   
DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: MasterC

sounds like your domaneering and not domanant. yoiu never talk down to a sub


Um.

1. There's considerable question whether the woman in question is a sub or not.
2. I will speak down to my own sub when I think it's appropriate.
3. There is a huge difference between "a sub" and "my sub".

That said, welcome to collarme.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 7:06:34 AM   
Kana


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Status: offline 		Cripes folks, this is a no-brainer, a dilemma any One Twue Dom need be able to quickly solve lest they lose their union card. It takes only one question:

Is she naked on her knees sucking?

Yes-Twue Subbie potential galore
No-Nyet.(No doubt a man hating dyke as proven by the lack of suckage)

See, easy-peasy puddin n pie

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 7:55:24 AM   
Madame4a


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Status: offline 		I'm inclined to think you might need a lot more experience... and not just in D/s .. but with people and life in general.


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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 10:00:55 AM   
JanahX


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Status: offline 		OP .... If I were you, I would be embarrassed. You are delusional and I suggest three things.

1. > Make an appt. to see a shrink so they can help you understand what most people consider "reality".

2. > Stop watching BDSM Porn and hanging out on SEX/BDSM websites.

3. > Jerk off as many times you feel you need to a day, so you can get it out of your system before hitting the streets -this might help sparing the public your horndog bullshit.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 10:50:44 AM   
MissToYouRedux


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ORIGINAL: JanahX

...

3. > Jerk off as many times you feel you need to a day, so you can get it out of your system before hitting the streets -this might help sparing the public your horndog bullshit.



Win/Win for the OP and the world at large. Genius!


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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 8:40:18 PM   
ILuvOrff


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Status: offline 		Can I just ask...
Was this like your very first time outside your own house or something?

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 9:41:37 PM   
LoreBook


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Status: offline 		I pity that poor girl. Hopefully she'll get a job somewhere the OP doesn't shop.

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and she doesn't care what anybody thinks of it, some people are just jerks.

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/10/2012 9:49:56 PM   
Aynne88


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

I go to the pet store to buy some fish the other day. The nice young lady assisting me was VERY deferale, and this is the second time I have met her and she acted the same way before. I would ask question and she would answer, allways saying Yes Sir, No Sir, ect. Now I know part of that might be being respectfull of me as a customer but I have NEVER been treated so in a Store. She seem generally afraid that I was disappointed in her answer. Maybe she was picking up on my domiance, as I was clearly talking down/to her? Any way my question to you self relized subs out there is she a natural Submissive and could I (if Pushed her) a bit own/take her? How do I know if she is or not, even if she dosen't understand herself. I need to find out if has a boyfriend. Hell would if even matter if she did because maybe he isn't giving her what she truely disires/needs.



Deferal is not a word by the way, just a little fyi. It's deferential. And I work as a sales rep in a high end construction business and also as a bartender, my pay depends on being deferential i.e. polite and accommodating to my clients and also guests at the bar. However, especially in my bartending job, if some douchebag came in and started talking down to me, I'd be so immediately inclined to turn on the bitch switch you'd soon realize the error of your ways. Talking down to someone doesn't make you dominant it makes you rude and in serious need of education in proper manners. I am willing to help you with that if you need it.

Always helpful...Aynne~ *sub to one, alpha to the rest. ;-)

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RE: Is she a natural submissive? - 3/11/2012 1:57:18 PM   
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