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amandie -> Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:30:26 PM)

I need some advice but do not think that anyone can really answer the question..
No this is not intended as a silly one..
I know a sub who is being given out to different people and her Master is then letting others join in without the subs knowledge the sub is suffering because of it....and no they are not into it either.

Is there anything that can be done...talking to the Master will only get the sub in trouble.
but just to watch how the sub is being misused is difficult..
The sub does not even receive normal aftercare..
I just need to get this off of My chest because it stinks and there is not a thing I can do about it..

Is there not a controll board that I can complain too??

How does anyone else cope when they see this going on...just ignore it or??? [>:]




mnottertail -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:33:32 PM)

a woman is being given out to different men, and she doesn't know it?

I would go with the silence is golden on this one.




fallon0627 -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:45:11 PM)

1. Talking to your Master about how you feel on something shouldn't get you in trouble. RED FLAG

2. Do they have a TPE relationship if not then this is something they should have talked about from the start and it could and still can be a hard limit. If the Master is ignoring a hard limit then RED FLAG.

When ever there is abuse in a relationship doesnt matter if its vanilla or BDSM then its time to get out. And as far as a control board no Ive never heard of one. When there is abuse in any relationship generally you leave the relationship and/or involve the cops depending on what has occured.

Not knowing the full story I would let my friend know I care about her and that she deserves someone who cares about how she feels. If there is abuse going on she should leave and yes in BDSM abuse can occur. Just because she is a submissive doesnt mean she gives up her rights as a person.




amandie -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:45:21 PM)

a woman is being given out to different men, and she doesn't know it?
Now where did you read that??.

others join in without the subs knowledge (if said sub is tied up by said play partner there is not a lot she can do to object, if others are added to the equation.)

assume that the sub knows that the first person she is to play with and agrees to it....then eventually others will ask to join in the Master says yeah why not...but does not inform the sub....OK! does that make it a little clearer??[8D]




mnottertail -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:51:58 PM)

The situation is extremely clear.  Still a wank.




amandie -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:54:32 PM)

Thank-you fallon 0627 but it is not as easy as it may sound...the sub cannot get out of the relationship and it is not a TPE at the moment but looks like it is being pushed in this direction.




amandie -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:55:44 PM)

Each to there own...as they say..[X(]




Lockit -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:58:21 PM)

She can get untied and run and never return. Done deal.






searching4mysir -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 3:59:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amandie

Thank-you fallon 0627 but it is not as easy as it may sound...the sub cannot get out of the relationship and it is not a TPE at the moment but looks like it is being pushed in this direction.


Of course she can get out of the relationship (it might not be easy, but it can be done). If she is living with him, she moves out. If not, she stops taking his calls/texts/emails and puts out a restraining order. If she says no to sex with others, then anything that happens with those people is assault and rape...have her file charges against her attackers AND her dom (for aiding and abetting as well as conspiracy). Even in Germany, I can't see nonconsensual slavery and sex being legal.




amandie -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 4:00:06 PM)

in a computer game maybe....but not in RL...unfortunately[:'(]




amandie -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 4:04:51 PM)

Ok certainly anyone can get out of a relationship if they really want to....but sometimes the consequences are been alone....or having to start anew...which can be very intimidating..

In an ideal world....everything is crystal clear..
It is not happening in Germany.
But thank-you searching4mysir all the same..




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 4:54:03 PM)

quote:

I know a sub who is being given out to different people and her Master is then letting others join in without the subs knowledge the sub is suffering because of it...


Call me confused. Or porched. But...the sub doesn't know others are joining in? They knocking her out before this stuff happens?




OsideGirl -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 4:56:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amandie

I know a sub who is being given out to different people and her Master is then letting others join in without the subs knowledge the sub is suffering because of it


How is she being given out to different people and have no knowledge of it? If she has no knowledge of it how is she suffering because of it?




poise -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 5:07:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amandie

I need some advice but do not think that anyone can really answer the question..
No this is not intended as a silly one..
I know a sub who is being given out to different people and her Master is then letting
others join in without the subs knowledge the sub is suffering because of it....and no they
are not into it either.

Is there anything that can be done...talking to the Master will only get the sub in trouble.
but just to watch how the sub is being misused is difficult..
The sub does not even receive normal aftercare..
I just need to get this off of My chest because it stinks and there is not a thing I can do
about it..

Is there not a controll board that I can complain too??

How does anyone else cope when they see this going on...just ignore it or??? [>:]


There is no control board, and even if there were, the submissive is aware that it's happened in
the past and remained silent about it, and therefore it's considered that she is consenting.
There are resources out there for people who are in what they deem an abusive situation.




jennileigh8182 -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 5:29:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amandie

Ok certainly anyone can get out of a relationship if they really want to....but sometimes the consequences are been alone....or having to start anew...which can be very intimidating..

In an ideal world....everything is crystal clear..
It is not happening in Germany.
But thank-you searching4mysir all the same..



Erm.....is being alone or starting over really worse than being misused or whored out? I'd gladly take being alone over that kind of situation....but that's me, I guess.




Killerangel -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 6:08:56 PM)

If the Master is doing things the slave is very much against I'm not sure why she can't leave. I can't imagine sticking around for abuse. Rather than complain to a control board, which you can't do anyway, how about helping the woman find a way to get out?




angelikaJ -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 6:10:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: amandie

I need some advice but do not think that anyone can really answer the question..
No this is not intended as a silly one..
I know a sub who is being given out to different people and her Master is then letting others join in without the subs knowledge the sub is suffering because of it....and no they are not into it either.

How are others joining in without her knowledge?

Is there anything that can be done...talking to the Master will only get the sub in trouble.
but just to watch how the sub is being misused is difficult..
The sub does not even receive normal aftercare..
I just need to get this off of My chest because it stinks and there is not a thing I can do about it..

There is no such thing as "normal aftercare". There is only the level of aftercare that each individual needs.


Is there not a controll board that I can complain too??


Nope.


How does anyone else cope when they see this going on...just ignore it or??? [>:]

Is the submissive happy in her relationship or are you jumping to the conclusion she is unhappy?
No one has to stay in a relationship they don't want to be in.
If this isn't TPE, then she is free to negotiate or renegotiate.
If this is TPE then until she chooses otherwise this is their agreed upon relationship.





Aileen1968 -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 6:31:30 PM)

I'm assuming the sub is over 18.
She's a legal, grown adult.
It's none of your business.




SilverBoat -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 9:36:47 PM)

A couple of questions:

1. Are you talking about events that are only happening in V/T, cyber, etc? Or is she really being physically (or mentally) forced to submit to multiple physical rapes (or other abuse) by persons unknown to her?

2. If it's the latter case, is she in some manner so threatened, impoverished, or otherwise incapable that she can't leave and go to a shelter? 




dublinemma -> RE: Misuse of a submissive (3/6/2012 10:08:04 PM)

Sounds like the sub in question is an idiot if she does in fact want to 'escape'. If she'd prefer to be whored out without her consent rather than "having to start anew" then I really have no pity for her and she is giving her consent by sticking around. Why bother helping someone who doesn't want to be helped. Although this could be what she is into, have you just assumed she isn't or has she given this impression? Just because it sounds wrong to you doesn't mean it is...




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