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Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologizes - 3/6/2012 7:34:03 PM   
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"Ed Schultz has unwittingly ended up in many tweets and headlines this week for being one of the more recent talk radio abusers of the word “slut,” and the comparisons to Rush Limbaugh seemed to finally get to him enough to make the distinction between the two clear: Schultz, he noted of himself, was unequivocal when he apologized, and unafraid to remind people today how big a mistake he made.

Schultz noted that Limbaugh had said he didn’t expect liberals to apologize for myriad offenses they had racked up against conservative women, something Schultz personally took umbrage at. “As usual, he is wrong,” he noted, and found the comparison between Limbaugh’s “tirade for nine hours” and the “12 seconds [in which] I made an inappropriate statement” ridiculous. “Drawing a moral equivalence between me and Rush… diminishes the outrageous nature of Limbaugh’s attack,” he argued, adding that Limbaugh “completely failed to offer an adequate apology.” To depict what he considered an adequate apology, and in case anyone had forgotten, he played his mea culpa to Laura Ingraham from last year, and noted that he personally called Ingraham and they made amends. “I went to management and told them I need to take myself off the air without pay,” he concluded. Noting that Ingraham had attacked the President for calling Fluke and not her after Schultz’s remarks, he appeared surprised he would bring it up since, to him, it was a closed case after his repentance– that lack of remorse being the fundamental difference between his remarks and Limbaugh’s."


Schultz was off the air at MSNBC for a week after he uttered a 12-second vile phrase on his radio program (not on MSNBC)--without pay. He apologized the very same day to Laura Ingraham and she reportedly (at the time) accepted the apology with grace and humor. However, recently, Ingraham has been complaining that President Obama never bothered to telephone her as he had phoned Fluke. And when Schultz returned to his tv show, he offered a second, 9-minute apology to Ingraham, during which he accepted full responsibility. He went to saw far as to say that the content of his words didn't matter. He also vowed to prove his sincerity by never using those words again...and since last May, he has not.

In contrast, Rush has offered an "apology" in which he claimed he used the wrong words. What words would he have used other than the ones he had? Would harlot been any better? He's claimed the left, saying he stooped to the level of the left. And he has failed to apologize for suggesting that women who pay no co-pays for their BC upload videos of themselves having sex on the web so that he can watch.

To draw a moral equivalency to the two situations is just ridiculous. And to show the stark contrast, last night Schultz played portions of Rush's prolonged 3-day attack and his non-apology apologies then replayed a portion of his own 9-minute on air apology to Laura Ingraham That apology was issued AFTER Ingraham had already accepted Schultz's apology on the phone, the apology Schultz had offered the very same day he had called her a vile name. A video of the segment is embedded on the link.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ed-schultz-teaches-rush-limbaugh-a-lesson-on-apologies-by-replaying-his-to-laura-ingraham/

And also: David Frum offers 4 reasons why the backlash Rush is suffering is not a double standard in any way.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/opinion/frum-rush-limbaugh-fairness/index.html

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 4:28:43 AM   
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Are we being fair to Rush Limbaugh?

...Point 3: Limbaugh's place in American public life is in no way comparable to that of David Letterman, Bill Maher or Ed Schultz.

Letterman is not a political figure at all; and while Maher and Schultz strongly identify as liberals, neither qualifies as anything like a powerbroker in the Democratic Party. I'm sure the Barack Obama re-election effort is happy to have Maher's million-dollar gift, but I sincerely doubt there is a Democratic congressman who worries much whether Maher criticizes him. A word of criticism from Limbaugh, by contrast, will reduce almost any member of the Republican caucus to abject groveling. See, for example: GINGREY, PHIL.

Among TV and radio talkers and entertainers, there is none who commands anything like the deference that Limbaugh commands from Republicans: not Rachel Maddow, not Jon Stewart, not Michael Moore, not Keith Olbermann at his zenith. Democratic politicians may wish for favorable comment from their talkers, but they are not terrified of negative comment from them in the way that Republican politicians live in fear of a negative word from Limbaugh.

The ultimate test came in 2002, the vote to authorize force against Iraq. Almost every liberal talker opposed that vote. Hillary Clinton, with her eye on a presidential run in 2008, voted in favor.

That is why no one asks Democratic politicians to repudiate the latest strident statement from an Olbermann or a Moore. There's no sport in it. It's too easy for them to say, "Sure." For Republicans, it's tough.

But maybe, after this latest outburst, a little less tough?

Point 4: Most fundamentally, why the impulse to counter one outrageous stunt by rummaging through the archives in search of some supposedly offsetting outrageous stunt? Why not respond to an indecent act on its own terms, and then -- if there's another indecency later -- react to that too, and on its own terms?

Instead, public life is reduced to a revenge drama. Each offense is condoned by reference to some previous offense by some undefined "them" who supposedly once did something even worse, or anyway nearly as bad, at some point in the past.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 4:32:31 AM   
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quote:

A word of criticism from Limbaugh, by contrast, will reduce almost any member of the Republican caucus to abject groveling. See, for example: GINGREY, PHIL.


Gingrey apologizes for Limbaugh criticism

January 29th, 2009

(CNN) – Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey of Georgia apologized Wednesday for criticizing conservative hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hanity, assuring his supporters that "I am one of you."

"I regret and apologize for the fact that my comments have offended and upset my fellow conservatives—that was not my intent," Gingrey said in a statement. "I am also sorry to see that my comments in defense of our Republican Leadership read much harsher than they actually were intended, but I recognize it is my responsibility to clarify my own comments."

The mea culpa comes one day after Gingrey appeared to take issue with Limbaugh's recent criticism of congressional Republicans. The conservative radio host said GOP leaders weren't adequately challenging President Obama on his proposed stimulus package.

"I mean, it’s easy if you’re Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks," Gingrey told the Politico. "You don’t have to try to do what’s best for your people and your party."

The comments, published in a Politico story Tuesday afternoon, immediately prompted a flood of calls from aggrieved conservatives to Gingrey's congressional office, prompting the Georgia Republican to issue a clarification reasserting his conservative bona fides.

..."Those guys are some our biggest supporters, and we need them," Chris Jackson, a spokesman for Gingrey, told CNN of Limbaugh and Hannity.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 5:28:43 AM   
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Hello? Neocons?
Any of you lads who've been shooting your mouths off in the other Limbaugh threads about how Limpy's just an entertainer and that what he says has nothing to do with the GOP have anything to say about this?

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 7:00:31 AM   
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The silence is deafening.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 10:02:25 AM   
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Innit just?
Spineless little creeps.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/7/2012 6:45:31 PM   
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So another Republican is forced to apologize to Limbaugh?? Why am I not surprised?

And the Republicans say the fat man is not the head of the party...

Time for all righties to grow a pair, if you ask me. Otherwise, Limbaugh may just bring down that whole party.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 4:42:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Hello? Neocons?
Any of you lads who've been shooting your mouths off in the other Limbaugh threads about how Limpy's just an entertainer and that what he says has nothing to do with the GOP have anything to say about this?



He's just an entertainer.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 4:52:10 AM   
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Yeah, right.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 5:17:37 AM   
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He's just an entertainer.



No, he is cultural wart.

This is an entertainer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPmruHc4S9Q






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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 9:13:48 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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He's just an entertainer.



No, he is cultural wart.

This is an entertainer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPmruHc4S9Q









Thanks I love that song and you will notice that I said he was an entertainer. I have never said he was entertaining. Maybe I should start saying he is a "lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig. But then someone would complain about the slight to pigs so there ya go.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 11:48:42 AM   
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Why is your party kowtowing to a lousy entertainer with the ethics of a pig?

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 11:59:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Hello? Neocons?
Any of you lads who've been shooting your mouths off in the other Limbaugh threads about how Limpy's just an entertainer and that what he says has nothing to do with the GOP have anything to say about this?



He's just an entertainer.

These folks don't seem to think so.

..."Those guys are some our biggest supporters, and we need them," Chris Jackson, a spokesman for Gingrey, told CNN of Limbaugh and Hannity.


Maybe I should start saying he is a "lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig.

You wont and we all know why.


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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 3:40:18 PM   
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Why is your party kowtowing to a lousy entertainer with the ethics of a pig?



You would have to ask the ones doing the kowtowing.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 3:43:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Hello? Neocons?
Any of you lads who've been shooting your mouths off in the other Limbaugh threads about how Limpy's just an entertainer and that what he says has nothing to do with the GOP have anything to say about this?



He's just an entertainer.

These folks don't seem to think so.
If you are talking about the folks on cm, so do and some don't. What's your point?
..."Those guys are some our biggest supporters, and we need them," Chris Jackson, a spokesman for Gingrey, told CNN of Limbaugh and Hannity.


Maybe I should start saying he is a "lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig.

You wont and we all know why.
You don't know that, but just for shits and giggles why don't you explain the why part? Just for those not included in the all knowing "we"




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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/8/2012 4:30:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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He's just an entertainer.

These folks don't seem to think so.
If you are talking about the folks on cm, so do and some don't. What's your point?
..."Those guys are some our biggest supporters, and we need them," Chris Jackson, a spokesman for Gingrey, told CNN of Limbaugh and Hannity.

You dont seem to be able to read. Who I am talking about is right there under your red ink.


Maybe I should start saying he is a "lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig.

You wont and we all know why.
You don't know that, but just for shits and giggles why don't you explain the why part? Just for those not included in the all knowing "we"

How about we just wait and watch to see how often you refer to him as
"lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig".








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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/9/2012 4:39:33 AM   
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When they show their faces in this thread, I will.
For now, you're the only neocon on show to answer questions about this.
If you don't like that, I suggest that you collect your snark and leave the thread.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/9/2012 5:20:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

When they show their faces in this thread, I will.
For now, you're the only neocon on show to answer questions about this.
If you don't like that, I suggest that you collect your snark and leave the thread.



So now I am a neocon huh? And I am supposed to care how many other "neocons" post here? That is too fucking funny.

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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/9/2012 5:23:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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He's just an entertainer.

These folks don't seem to think so.
If you are talking about the folks on cm, so do and some don't. What's your point?

..."Those guys are some our biggest supporters, and we need them," Chris Jackson, a spokesman for Gingrey, told CNN of Limbaugh and Hannity.

You dont seem to be able to read. Who I am talking about is right there under your red ink.
Oh ok, so you were talking about Jackson. Again, what is your fucking point?

Maybe I should start saying he is a "lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig.

You wont and we all know why.
You don't know that, but just for shits and giggles why don't you explain the why part? Just for those not included in the all knowing "we"

How about we just wait and watch to see how often you refer to him as
"lousy" entertainer with the ethics of a pig".

You claimed you know why? So why not just explain what you meant instead of just firing back more questions? Oh wait, that's not your style is it










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RE: Ed Schultz teaches Rush about apologies - 3/9/2012 5:27:35 AM   
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LOL, my 40th class reunion is in July and I will tell Ed that there are some folks here who don't think much of him, and I can't help but think he won't be at all impressed  by it. 

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