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SternSkipper -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/6/2012 11:11:01 PM)

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You call then last 10 years being "good" at financial matters?



I didn't say that. But I don't see a problem with the desire to want to be successful which is typically an idea trumpeted by the Right.


Don't take it personally. I was making a point, not to you but rather the discussion on the whole.




SternSkipper -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/6/2012 11:15:35 PM)

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Not really......what the "right" TRUMPets is vulture capitalism and personally profiting by bankrupting businesses.....ie. TRUMP,Mitt,Wall Street, etc.


Exactly, Masquerading something as "success" when it has it's roots in something a little more polite than armed robbery, isn't all that worth Trumpeting. And when it's used to cajole others into similar practices, it's completely unethical and you can defend a lie all the way to your grave and it'll never become truth.




RottenJohnny -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/6/2012 11:18:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Not really......what the "right" TRUMPets is vulture capitalism and personally profiting by bankrupting businesses.....ie. TRUMP,Mitt,Wall Street, etc.


No. That's how the Right ACTS. But it isn't what they SAY.

I can agree with the principle of what they say. I don't agree with the way they apply what they say.

Now, would you like to comment further on my use of caps? Or should I assume you just like picking a fight?




RottenJohnny -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/6/2012 11:24:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Don't take it personally. I was making a point, not to you but rather the discussion on the whole.



It's cool. I don't take any of this personally. I get the point. And believe me, I've taken a hit just as much as everyone else during this downturn.




Musicmystery -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 4:23:32 AM)

I'm always stunned at how little people here know about something so basic as the stock market.

First, to presume investors would take a loss to protest where Carbonite pulled advertising is a BIG stretch. Because those investors would be the ONLY people who lost money--didn't cost Carbonite a dime. And other investors picked up the bargain.

Second, small and midcap companies fluctuate daily in valuation for a variety of factors. This is a non-event.

Show me a group of investors stating this is why they're selling, and analysis that nothing else changed, and then you'll have something.

Until then, you're connecting coincidences. The weather was unexpectedly warm. Why not blame that? Just as silly a correlation.

Several advertisers pulled ads, what happened to their stock. What happened to their stock?

If this is what passes for thinking in America, we're in more trouble than I thought.




kalikshama -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 4:50:02 AM)

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If ProFlowers (the first rat off this particular "sinking ship") experiences a drop in their profit margin, will they wonder what happened or will they realize that they might have called the pot a bit too early?


Pro Flowers waited until Sunday. Your analogy is best served by Sleep Train, Sleep Number, or Quicken Loans, who pulled out Friday.




Musicmystery -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 6:20:03 AM)

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investors flee carbonite


Gosh, maybe this is why...

In Carbonite’s most recent Quarterly filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Carbonite discloses that it loses money hand over fist, and is expected to do so for the foreseeable future:

Risks Related to Our Business

We have experienced losses and negative cash flow since our inception, and we may not be able to achieve or sustain profitability or positive cash flow in the future.

We experienced net losses of $17.4 million for 2008, $19.2 million for 2009, $25.8 million for 2010, and $17.4 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2011, respectively, and have an accumulated deficit of $94.3 million as of September 30, 2011.

We have not generally achieved positive cash flow from our operations or reported net income, and we do not expect to be profitable for the foreseeable future. We expect to continue making significant expenditures to develop and expand our business, including for advertising, customer acquisition, technology infrastructure, storage capacity, product development, and international expansion, in an effort to increase and service our customer base.

In 2011, we have incurred, and expect to continue to incur, increased expenses associated with the relocation of one of our data centers to a new facility, and with relocating our customer service operations from India to the U.S., which will adversely affect our operating results for 2011. We also expect that our quarterly results may fluctuate due to a variety of factors described elsewhere in this Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q, including the timing and amount of our advertising expenditures, which are seasonal, as well as the timing and amount of expenditures related to the development of technologies and solutions and to defend intellectual property infringement and other claims.

In addition, as a public company, we incur significant legal, accounting and other expenses, including increased costs for director and officer liability insurance that we did not incur as a private company. We may also incur increased losses and negative cash flow in the future for a number of reasons, and we may encounter unforeseen expenses, difficulties, complications, delays, and other unknown events.

For these reasons, we expect to continue to record net losses for the next several years and we may not be able to achieve or maintain positive cash flow from operations or profitability.




DaddySatyr -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 6:29:08 AM)

Wow! They should definitely stay in business, then! What a deal! I'll be back. I need to call my broker and liquidate everything else and buy into Carbonite.

Seriously, this is kind of what I said, earlier (possibly in another thread. There's about six of them) is that there may have been some companies - because of the economy or poor business planning - that were wanting to cut back on their expenditures, anyway and this provided a perfect opportunity while allowing them to mount the white horse for the public.

I am quite sure that advertisers pay a bit more to advertise with Rush than they do with other shows/stations. That's the nature of advertising and real estate (location, location, location.). In economically stressful times, I'm sure some of them were weighing the pros and cons of the higher cost advertising before this shit hit the fan.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Lucylastic -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 6:54:24 AM)

According to other "sources. Carbonite stock dropped around the same time as Google started up their cloud storage sites (feb 24th) and considering that the stock market has dropped considerably in the last couple of days, there is more than rush affecting their business. If you actually look at their stock prices over the last three or four months they have been on a definite decline
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb
OOOH and its gone up ...since this morning too!




Musicmystery -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 7:01:11 AM)

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I am quite sure that advertisers pay a bit more to advertise with Rush than they do with other shows/stations. That's the nature of advertising and real estate (location, location, location.). In economically stressful times, I'm sure some of them were weighing the pros and cons of the higher cost advertising before this shit hit the fan.


And aside from any controversy, this gets them TONS more FREE "advertising."




pyroaquatic -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 7:56:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

The only way that we, the "common" people can show our support or disdain for anything is by "voting" with our dollars.



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The only way that we, the "common" people can show our support or disdain for anything is by "voting" with our time and energy.


I am not going to waste my time listening to some rambling opinion on some radio show, nor am I going to waste energy spreading links of how 'Rush' is not/is a douche-bag.

Non-existence while existing is worse than death in some instances.

I am busy spending my time and energy fixing the misconceptions of individuals as they align to form a world view-kind of how the zipper on your jacket becomes misaligned and you spend six minutes trying to fix it getting to teeth of the sides to fit congruently.

I'm upset with liberals, conservatives, republicans, democrats, the whole freaking cart. The horse is just a horse-will always be a horse-so when the cart overturns because the horse is spooked...

don't blame the horse; blame the Driver.




mnottertail -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 8:46:39 AM)

LOLOLOL, of course their stock tanked, not only are they in a disturbingly nonsexy business leveraged to the hilt, their whole fucking marketing plan is advertizing on limbaugh.....where else you heard of them? 




thompsonx -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 9:35:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Maybe it's the only thing they're good at.


You call then last 10 years being "good" at financial matters?



I didn't say that. But I don't see a problem with the desire to want to be successful which is typically an idea trumpeted by the Right.


It appears that your position is:
that only the right wants to be successful while everyone else wants to be unsuccessful.
If that was your point I believe you are mistaken.
If that was not your point please elucidate.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 9:41:18 AM)

FR

Defending one's values often does cost. It often does hit where it hurts. Doesn't make it any less worthy or important for Carbonite to have done what it did.

I encourage liberals who need online backup services to use Carbonite.

To the conservative media who think the head of Carbonite pulled out from advertising on Limbaugh's show to promote Obama - WRONG. He did this because he has two daughters a similar age to Fluke and didn't like what Limbaugh said. So now a man is wrong for standing up for the rights of his daughters. Yes, the family values party at work again. Why is it conservatives never recognize family values when they see them? Are true family values really so hard to understand?




Musicmystery -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 10:01:15 AM)

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I encourage liberals who need online backup services to use Carbonite.


Or I could use iCloud for free.

Hmmm.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 10:19:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I encourage liberals who need online backup services to use Carbonite.


Or I could use iCloud for free.

Hmmm.


Okay. I admit. I don't really know the details of what Carbonite sells. If it is what iCloud offers then I guess that business is going under and it has nothing to do with Limbaugh.

Although my iCloud was not free because I had to upgrade my OS - and that did cost me $$ [&o]




DomKen -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 10:38:49 AM)

FR

Does no one here know why post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy?




mnottertail -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 11:31:01 AM)

cuz its latin?  (sorry ken, lol, its how I am built).




Edwynn -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 12:00:58 PM)


I thought it was Latin for "it followed me home, but I can't keep it."






blacksword404 -> RE: BOYCOTT OF LIMBAUGH WORKS! (3/7/2012 12:13:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Is any one surprised that the only value used to measure things by those who defend leaders of the Right is financial?

Share values might be important to the 1%. For most of the 99%. the day to day fluctuations of a share price are irrelevant.


Bear Stearns.




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