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artemiss -> Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/6/2012 9:34:15 PM)

Ok, sorry if this sounds ridiculous.

First off, i admit, I am not a storyteller.  Nor do my fantasies consist of full scenes and settings.  More like disconnected segments.

Guess it has to do with my blunt straight forward nature - there is little room for fluff.

My issue is that when I am asked to describe my fantasies, they never come out seeming complete or coherent.  It isn't that I don't know what I want, but rather my thoughts about them are more emotion based.  How I feel in the fantasy, or the driving force behind it. 

What I am asking you folks, particularly those of you who can relate to this form of fantasy - or those who are into erotic writing - do you have any tips on turning disconnected images and into a story?  Creating a setting and making a more "visual" type of fantasy?




LunaM -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/6/2012 11:19:03 PM)

Write down the images. Describe them as best you can. Unfortunately, a big part of writing is all fluff. It's spending paragraphs describing a situation, a scene, or a person. Let it flow though, don't force it or you will lose it.




Kainundeva -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 12:39:23 AM)

tried poetry first instead of trying to write down a coherent story?
poetry leaves a wide room for just putting down what you feel.
and once you mastered that, you can start filling the gaps to get a story.




SilverBoat -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 6:11:06 AM)

A couple bits of advice that I'd pass along from writing workshops:

Don't edit, rehash, restate, etc on the first pass, just write, even if it doesn't make complete phrases or sentences. Hold off on going back through what you wrote to clean up the grammar, structure, continuity, and so forth, until later, at another session. (Frankly, I don't do well at the don't-edit thing, but I try.)

When you have something in mind to write about about, but can't get started, focus on smaller pieces of it; such as a single item, action, phrase, word, etc. If you expand from that, fine, if not, maybe it was enough to make its own story. (I've made good use of that advice at times.)

Good luck, and keep writing!




kalikshama -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 7:07:15 AM)

I've written about really great scenes that I've had and offered that in place of a request for a fantasy.

Otherwise, use bullet points?




artemiss -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 7:59:50 AM)

Now the bullet points would work :-)

Poetry, not so much - think I even had it listed as a hard limit at one point!  Runs screaming for the hills.






Kana -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 8:12:13 AM)

Chortles
I'd much rather actualize than describe!




chatterbox24 -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 8:58:29 AM)

I dont know how many times Ive been asked "what are your fantasies?"
and I say "I dont have any"

I can be really creative, artistic, like to write, AND TYPE (LOL)
and IM left handed too.
SO its really weird when asked if I have a fantasy I draw a total blank.
SO I can understand the block on that one.




littlewonder -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 9:00:33 AM)

I've either done all my fantasies or living them right now. :)




sunshinemiss -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 9:02:34 AM)

If you are talking about communicating with a sweety - yes, bullet points.  If you actually want to write a story, all stories regardless of content have the same elements. 




chatterbox24 -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 9:12:08 AM)

One thing that might help is thinking about the scenery, what the air smelled like, what the lightening was in the scene, to take you back to it. Adjectives, are awesome.




DesFIP -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 10:12:19 AM)

Why do you feel you have to write a whole script?

Why not just describe something you would like to try. Or link to a picture or something you've watched or read about, and say "can we try this sometime".

But the guy who asked you for a fantasy, did you ask him what he meant by that? Because I'm betting he doesn't really want a full story, just what ideas turn you on.




Winterapple -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 10:25:00 AM)

FR
Why do you need a story? If someone has
asked you about what you fantasize about
you don't have to go all Anais Nin on their
ass to express it.
Are you messaging with someone who has
asked you about your fantasies? Unless they
as for a erotic tale just throwing out some
acts should suffice.
Kinda like that joke about the kid who asks
his parents where he came from. The parents
tell him about the birds and bees and all
the kid wanted to know was where he was born.




xssve -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 5:21:58 PM)

It's not as easy as it sounds, as you say, fantasies, for the most part tend to be diffuse and fragmented, whereas a story follows a set pattern: at minimum, a beginning, a middle and an end - Three acts.

Ac 1: introduce the characters and define a problem the character/s must resolve.

Act 2: the characters go about resolving the problem, the "story" part.

Act 3: the problem is resolved.

Stories about sex pose particular difficulties when it comes to literature, you can write a story about sex, or you can write a story with sex in it - if the former, the hard part is usually act 3.

A simple outline might be:

Act 1: Wendy Wetpants need to get laid, bad.

That's a simple problem, and it creates tension, "conflict" is the literary term for it, and it's basically what makes the story worth reading, i.e., the character should be sympathetic, and problem should be interesting enough to make the reader care whether it get's resolved or not if you want them to turn the page.

Act 2: Wendy goes on Collarme to find the man of her dreams, who will whip her, beat her, and make her write bad checks. She hooks up with Michael Mastermeat, who is both hypnotically attractive and terrifying (more tension), they agree to meet and things too graphic to mention occur.

Act 2 is basically about milking the tension in order to maintain the readers interest, and the outline needs to be fleshed out a little - when she finds the guy (or girl, or couple) she needs to resolve her tension, you can add twists and turns, new problems or situations can present themselves, could be anything: Mastermeat takes her back to his trailer, where he's staying with his mother and his entire family, his buddies are there, he turns out to be a girl, his penis is a foot long, etc., etc., whatever.

Act 3: After finally satiating her lust, Mastermeat gazes lovingly into her eyes, slaps her on the ass, and orders her into the kitchen to fetch a beer, they live happily ever after, the end.

This is a plotline typical of porn, and act 3 is basically a moneyshot, but you can make it all as complicated as you want, the key things to remember are to develop tension and resolve it at the end.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/7/2012 8:20:28 PM)

Sunny
Quote of the Day
goes to
Winterapple
for
If someone has asked you about what you fantasize about
you don't have to go all Anais Nin on their ass to express it.
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kalikshama -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/8/2012 4:19:20 AM)

I bought Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns: The Romance and Sexual Sorcery of Sadomasochism, pointed at pictures and said "Let's try this!"




artemiss -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/13/2012 7:56:35 PM)

Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I wanted to thank you all for the input.  Especially those of you who actually gave  tips for the writing.


Wish pictures and ideas were enough - that just isn't the case here.  But who says past scenes can't also be fantasies :-D




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/14/2012 12:48:59 AM)

If you prefer snippets of ideas, haiku for you m'dear. 13-16 words. Succinct and to the point. We love haiku around here (especially in the purple sarcasm font).




hellionsLight -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/14/2012 8:46:55 AM)

Practice practice practice!




cincydom1958 -> RE: Turning Fantasies into Stories (3/14/2012 10:48:37 AM)

My favorite way of depicting fantasy is a mixture of words and photos. Anyone can do words, but to use photography takes alot of time and patience and maybe a little talent. Things that cannot be done with 'real' (or practical) photography can be done in the digital world (Photoshop) or even in hand drawn art. I find that fantasy can go wild then. BDSM concepts can go past what is obtainable in real life, and no one feels threatened or is hurt.

I understand the need for something larger than messaging to get an idea out. The documenting of the idea is erotic in itself.

Interesting stuff to me at least!




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