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ScoutsHonor -> Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 8:44:14 PM)

Sometimes I stumble upon profiles here, most being those of Dominate males considering that I am a heterosexual female sub, that could use some work or poses a question I have the answer to or something like that. Now I’ve never spoke with these Doms before, nor am I interested in being their sub, I just have a comment to make that I hope will be helpful to them. Should I speak up or is it more polite to jut keep my mouth shut and move on?




DesFIP -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 8:49:22 PM)

Your call. However be prepared that many of them will assume you are interested in them.
If the question is sexual or kink, that's going to assure them you really want them.

The problem with telling people that their profile is poor is that most people have trouble with criticism. They will take it not as the profile isn't good enough, but as they aren't good enough. They will be hurt and frequently guys who feel that a strange woman attacked them (even though that isn't your intention) will respond being more hurtful.

Now if it's a nonsexual thing you're responding to, then you're more likely to be able to have an adult conversation.




JanahX -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 8:57:52 PM)

Why do you feel compelled to help them? Help them with what? If they are asking a question - then sure= answer away. But other than that - why do you feel that this is a productive thing to do with your time?




DarkSteven -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 9:00:46 PM)

I'm with DesFIP. Some Doms will think you're coming on to them, and some will just get ticked.




ScoutsHonor -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 9:06:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Why do you feel compelled to help them? Help them with what? If they are asking a question - then sure= answer away. But other than that - why do you feel that this is a productive thing to do with your time?




That's a good question. I don't know, I'll have to think about that.




IrishMist -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 9:12:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor

Sometimes I stumble upon profiles here, most being those of Dominate males considering that I am a heterosexual female sub, that could use some work or poses a question I have the answer to or something like that. Now I’ve never spoke with these Doms before, nor am I interested in being their sub, I just have a comment to make that I hope will be helpful to them. Should I speak up or is it more polite to jut keep my mouth shut and move on?

It depends.

Are you commenting on something specific that you read in their profile? Something that you think is a good conversational piece? If yes, then I see no reason not to comment. As mentioned though, most, not all, but most will take it as an indication that you are in some way interested in THEM.

If you are just commenting on something in their profile that you feel needs 'work', then my advice would be to just mind your own business.




LoreBook -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 9:23:27 PM)

What I do in situations like this is turn it around. How would you feel if a Dom wrote you with unsolicited advise on how to improve your profile?

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and should in no way be considered an attempt by the author to define or determine anything for anybody but herself.




Baroana -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 9:47:05 PM)

People around here don't seem to take kindly to unsolicited profile advice.

Moreover, I believe you are not single, correct? Then don't contact men. As stated above, they'll think (not unreasonably) that you are interested in them.




ScoutsHonor -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 10:19:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Baroana


Moreover, I believe you are not single, correct? Then don't contact men. As stated above, they'll think (not unreasonably) that you are interested in them.


No, I am single. Trust me if I wasn't I wouldn't be contacting anyone.




ScoutsHonor -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/10/2012 10:20:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LoreBook

What I do in situations like this is turn it around. How would you feel if a Dom wrote you with unsolicited advise on how to improve your profile?

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and should in no way be considered an attempt by the author to define or determine anything for anybody but herself.




Good point. I believe I'll just continue to keep my mouth shut.




Kaliko -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 4:57:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor


quote:

ORIGINAL: LoreBook

What I do in situations like this is turn it around. How would you feel if a Dom wrote you with unsolicited advise on how to improve your profile?

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and should in no way be considered an attempt by the author to define or determine anything for anybody but herself.




Good point. I believe I'll just continue to keep my mouth shut.



I agree. Every once in awhile someone will "advise" me that my profile is too wordy. Counter that against the many messages I get about how someone likes that my profile is a bit more detailed, and one can see that it's really just a matter of taste. You may not find what they wrote to be appealing, but that just may mean that he is not the man for you. Move on, no need to advise.

Of course, as was noted, if someone asks for the advice? Go to town. I love doing that. :)




kalikshama -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 5:02:10 AM)

If someone continues to contact me after I've made clear I'm not interested, I'll give him some profile advice as a PSA.

I'd never reach out and make first contact with advice, for the reasons given by other posters.




Focus50 -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 5:15:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor

Sometimes I stumble upon profiles here, most being those of Dominate males considering that I am a heterosexual female sub, that could use some work or poses a question I have the answer to or something like that. Now I’ve never spoke with these Doms before, nor am I interested in being their sub, I just have a comment to make that I hope will be helpful to them. Should I speak up or is it more polite to jut keep my mouth shut and move on?


I'd say you're mistaken. That pretty much everything you (or anyone else) says or does is representative of that person's true self. Meaning a personal profile is presumably written by the person it purports to represent. While you may think another's profile is lacking in some way, they are likely showing *you* their true self. If that's not good enough for you, then pass on by....

To tell someone their profile is wrong in some way is to be telling them that they're wrong. Can't see that going over well - not even with all your lovely red hair.... ;) If you were otherwise interested, then you could at least ask them rather than tell them.

Focus.




Focus50 -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 5:21:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

Why do you feel compelled to help them? Help them with what? If they are asking a question - then sure= answer away. But other than that - why do you feel that this is a productive thing to do with your time?


This is a good point, too. What if it's some abusive arsehole trolling for naive new meat - and you come along and help them hide by pointing out an obvious flaw with their "bait"?

Focus.




Baroana -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 6:45:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


Moreover, I believe you are not single, correct? Then don't contact men. As stated above, they'll think (not unreasonably) that you are interested in them.


No, I am single. Trust me if I wasn't I wouldn't be contacting anyone.


My mistake.




ScoutsHonor -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 6:55:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


Moreover, I believe you are not single, correct? Then don't contact men. As stated above, they'll think (not unreasonably) that you are interested in them.


No, I am single. Trust me if I wasn't I wouldn't be contacting anyone.


My mistake.



No problem.




Kana -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 8:05:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LoreBook

What I do in situations like this is turn it around. How would you feel if a Dom wrote you with unsolicited advise on how to improve your profile?

The preceding statement represents the views and opinions of the author and the author alone, and should in no way be considered an attempt by the author to define or determine anything for anybody but herself.




I dunno...how would you feel about folks who let you walk around all day with spinach in your teeth?
I mean, yeah, it may hurt your feelings and all, but wouldn't you rather they tell you than not?

And this comes from a cat who once, true story this, changed his profile, part of which was an opening paragraph regarding the importance of good spelling, grammar, etc...
Except when I cut and pasted the profile from Word, I missed two letters on the first sentence...and, worse, somehow didn't catch it when I posted the new profile.
Oops.
So for two days I had a profile whose opening line drummed on about proper syntax etc, while the very first word was misspelled.
Egg all over the face.
And know what?
None of my fine internet friends said a damn thing.
Took a strange girl to write me a letter before I noticed-she asked me if I was being intentionally and very cleverly ironic or if I was the worlds biggest moron?
I felt kinda stupid. To say the least
But I was also grateful for the feedback as, while I may have looked to be an ass in the past, could at least prevent obvious idiocy and embarrassment in the future.

To quote that eminent philosopher Marsellus Wallace, "you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts. It never helps. You fight through that shit."




OsideGirl -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 9:20:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScoutsHonor

Sometimes I stumble upon profiles here, most being those of Dominate males considering that I am a heterosexual female sub, that could use some work or poses a question I have the answer to or something like that.


Do you advise them that dominate is a verb and that you cannot be a verb?




Baroana -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 9:49:33 AM)

I try to abide by the maxim that the worst vice is advice. However, I suppose I violate it most every time I post here.




DesFIP -> RE: Unsolicited Advice? (3/11/2012 10:58:24 AM)

If you really want to advise people about their profiles, wait a bit. Every so often someone comes to the forums asking for just that kind of feedback. At which point we tell them, as bluntly as possible.




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