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BenevolentM -> RE: Benevolent's Taxonomy of Atheism (3/12/2012 10:18:38 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper
Are we likely to see Atheist Gang Violence?
That is a stimulating question SternSkipper. I would say yes, but it is some what of a complex question. There are some parts to it and what is what makes it interesting.
I would classify the judiciary in the United States as lapsed Masons who where once Masons, but have since fallen from the ideals advanced by Masonry. Masonry does not accept atheists. Why? I do not know the precise reasons, but I would hazard a guess that our founding fathers realized that atheism if it took root and germinated in the United States, our system of government would devolve into what it is today, a cast system between rich and poor.
In Hypocrisy and the Law I pointed out that the Masons regarded themselves as Guardians of the Republic. I feel they understood what they were doing. These were intelligent and thoughtful men. The problem is freedom is a permission which is inherently weak. From the stand point of contract law that is in turn based on philosophical considerations, a permission can be suspended due to our right to contract. Prohibitions on the other hand cannot because a lawful contract must have a legal object. In theory, the moral weakness of the system would create opportunity, that is social mobility and a properous nation where there is justice for all or at least an honest attempt to achieve such lofty ideals. Knowing that the foundation of American democracy would have a morally weak foundation the Masons apparently realized that something was needed to keep America on the straight and narrow. Masonry expressly rejects atheism. The problem is the Masons apparently did not foresee the decline of Masonry. I suspect that the Masons were in fact the Guardians of the Republic and the problems we face today is partially the result of the decline in Masonry.
Atheists pride themselves on being intellectuals. Honest atheists are marginalized by society. I don't see them as having the means nor the interest to commit violence. They have a conscience that keeps them out of trouble. This is why it isn't necessarily a bad thing to have an atheist neighbor. The problem stems not so much from the honest atheists, however. The dishonest atheists lack a conscience. Atheists appear to commit whatever violence they commit at the scale of nation states. This is why global government is feared.
Discernment is needed to understand the problem. What we are observing today concerning the potential for gang violence is clearly fueled by frustration and opportunism, an opportunity to show that certain political ideologies, for example, such as those based on Karl Marx are valid. Science and technology has since advanced to a point where some people are beginning to think maybe they should have a crack at it again.
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A Karl Marx atheist paradise may or may not come to pass in a thousand or more years. Either way there is no rational justification for a Nietzsche Will to Power, Power Sprint.
Hypocrisy and the Law, post 33
The itch has returned.
Honest atheists who are just trying to get on with their lives are an unlikely threat. Atheists who are pure intellectuals who are just interested in getting to the truth are also safe. Jesus loves them. It is the atheist ideological zealots that are the problem.
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