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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 5:41:10 AM   
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Ms Fluke has a been portrayed as an innocent 23 year old poor coed unable to afford her birth control, when in fact she's a 30 year old, with a history of activism, and apparently a rich boyfriend who pays for her trips to Spain and Italy, if the pictures I've seen are to be believed. If you're going to portray yourself falsely, one can be expected to be called on it.


Have you even read the transcript?

How many times does she need to say "we" and "students" and how many examples does she need to give to make it clear she's not talking about just herself?

Additionally, her fourth and fifth sentences mention her involvement with LSRJ.

Big coverup

http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/

...I’m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ. And I’d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 5:42:57 AM   
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It's notable that he can't name the reporter who got the woman's age wrong, or cite the report in question, really. I suppose that isn't important if you're eager to confuse a factchecker dozing off on the job with a vast liberal conspiracy...

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 6:01:15 AM   
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A website called The Blaze says, "In a segment on Fluke’s battle with Rush Limbaugh, MSNBC reporter Anne Williams called Fluke 'the 23-year-old Georgetown law student, prohibited from testifying.'" That's all I could find. Every other site I looked at took refuge in the passive voice, saying Fluke "was described" as a 23-year-old.



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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 6:03:21 AM   
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There you go then. A typical neocon strawman.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 6:16:47 AM   
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A website called The Blaze says, "In a segment on Fluke’s battle with Rush Limbaugh, MSNBC reporter Anne Williams called Fluke 'the 23-year-old Georgetown law student, prohibited from testifying.'"


When I google "MSNBC reporter Anne Williams" the only results I get are reprints of the Blaze article. I was unable to verify Anne Williams existence on MSNBC.com.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 6:19:57 AM   
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Same here.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 6:24:03 AM   
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Of course, all this is sort of a distraction anyway. Let's say, for argument's sake, that Fluke is indeed 30 and has been an activitist for reproductive rights. Does that invalidate her testimony? And does it make Rush's comments any more acceptable?

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 8:05:19 AM   
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He froze drilling permits.


Deep water permits were frozen for 60 days after a well collapse. Permits were then required to have a better written disaster recovery plans. New permits are issued every day.

As to gas prices, does anyone care to explain how it instantly costs the oil companies 50% more to produce a gallon of gas? I can see that the supply may go up and down but that doesn't make it cost more to produce a single gallon of gas, it just means there are fewer gallons of gas. The law of supply and demand doesn't mean it COSTS more to produce something, it means you CAN change more because people will be willing to pay for more. All of the major oil companies have record profits yet it's the president's fault that gas prices are up? Now don't get me wrong, I think they should be able to maximize their profits in a free market economy -- they should man up about doing it.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 12:24:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Of course, all this is sort of a distraction anyway. Let's say, for argument's sake, that Fluke is indeed 30 and has been an activitist for reproductive rights. Does that invalidate her testimony? And does it make Rush's comments any more acceptable?


Testimony at a press conference? Why did the progressives stage this event in the first place? It's all smoke and mirrors, and politics as usual... I don't have a problem with Rush calling her a slut, just like I didn't have a problem with Maher calling Palin a cunt, or Senator Wilson calling President Obama a liar... I believe we need more people willing to say what's on their mind, and less hiding behind politically correct civility.

Frankly I get sick every time I hear a Senator say "the distinguished gentleman, or lady".

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 5:33:37 PM   
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Why did the progressives stage this event in the first place?


For the same reason the Republicans staged theirs?

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 7:27:43 PM   
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Why did the progressives stage this event in the first place?


For the same reason the Republicans staged theirs?

The Republican committee meeting was a committee meeting, not a press conference dressed up to look like a steering committee meeting run by a non committee member, that's the difference.

You can keep trying to move the goal posts instead of admitting Fluke was a plant, but no one's buying it.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 7:39:24 PM   
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The Republican committee meeting was a committee meeting, not a press conference dressed up to look like a steering committee meeting run by a non committee member, that's the difference.


So each side held an event to get its point across. The committee meeting/press conference "difference" is a trivial attempt at spin. What it actually does, however, to make clear that the minority had to organize its own event because Dems--and women, no?--were shut out from the "official" one.

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You can keep trying to move the goal posts instead of admitting Fluke was a plant, but no one's buying it.


It seems really important to you to believe Sandra Fluke was a plant. I feel like I'm taking the Easter Bunny away from you.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/23/2012 7:40:13 PM   
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Oh Heck ... I just can't resist this one!

Pat Robertson believes Peyton Manning should get hurt this year


Now ... Rodger GODdell is saying ...

Another Aint a Saint ...

You are on Indefinite Suspension !!!!!

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 10:34:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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she's made a career out of protesting, and advocating.


What precisely do you find objectionable about one exercising their constitutional rights, which you as an alleged copper have sworn a sacred oath to protect?


Let's call a spade, a spade, shall we? If she's a professional advocate, with years of experience, just say so. Instead we get the poor little twenty three year old coed denied basic medical prescriptions. Stop pretending she wasn't placed there by Mrs Pelosi, and Ms Fluke was a random student pulled from the ranks of Georgetown Uni.

It's pretty black and white from this end, Mr bold type.


Would you please answer mr. bold type's question?



I'll spell it out so even a progressive can understand...

Ms Fluke has a been portrayed as an innocent 23 year old poor coed unable to afford her birth control, when in fact she's a 30 year old, with a history of activism, and apparently a rich boyfriend who pays for her trips to Spain and Italy, if the pictures I've seen are to be believed. If you're going to portray yourself falsely, one can be expected to be called on it.

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Obviously, any witness testifying before Congress is gonna be carefully selected and probably primed a bit. Does that make him or her a "plant"? If Fluke was a plant, was Bishop Lori, who testified on the all-male Republican panel, one as well? It's not like the GOP just grabbed the first clergyman it could find.


I didn't see the Republicans trying to pass Bishop Lori off as anything other than a Catholic Bishop. like a poor 23 year old law student... Did you?



Any chance you will ever answer the question?

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 2:30:28 PM   
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The Republican committee meeting was a committee meeting, not a press conference dressed up to look like a steering committee meeting run by a non committee member, that's the difference.


So each side held an event to get its point across. The committee meeting/press conference "difference" is a trivial attempt at spin. What it actually does, however, to make clear that the minority had to organize its own event because Dems--and women, no?--were shut out from the "official" one.

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You can keep trying to move the goal posts instead of admitting Fluke was a plant, but no one's buying it.


It seems really important to you to believe Sandra Fluke was a plant. I feel like I'm taking the Easter Bunny away from you.


So you object to the conservatives inviting Catholic leaders to a committee meeting concerning Catholic holdings... Got it


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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 2:35:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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The Republican committee meeting was a committee meeting, not a press conference dressed up to look like a steering committee meeting run by a non committee member, that's the difference.


So each side held an event to get its point across. The committee meeting/press conference "difference" is a trivial attempt at spin. What it actually does, however, to make clear that the minority had to organize its own event because Dems--and women, no?--were shut out from the "official" one.

quote:

You can keep trying to move the goal posts instead of admitting Fluke was a plant, but no one's buying it.


It seems really important to you to believe Sandra Fluke was a plant. I feel like I'm taking the Easter Bunny away from you.


So you object to the conservatives inviting Catholic leaders to a committee meeting concerning Catholic holdings... Got it


If it actually concerned something those old men actually held that would be one thing. However as has been repeatedly told to you the businesses in question do not belong to the church.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 4:57:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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The Republican committee meeting was a committee meeting, not a press conference dressed up to look like a steering committee meeting run by a non committee member, that's the difference.


So each side held an event to get its point across. The committee meeting/press conference "difference" is a trivial attempt at spin. What it actually does, however, to make clear that the minority had to organize its own event because Dems--and women, no?--were shut out from the "official" one.

quote:

You can keep trying to move the goal posts instead of admitting Fluke was a plant, but no one's buying it.


It seems really important to you to believe Sandra Fluke was a plant. I feel like I'm taking the Easter Bunny away from you.


So you object to the conservatives inviting Catholic leaders to a committee meeting concerning Catholic holdings... Got it


If it actually concerned something those old men actually held that would be one thing. However as has been repeatedly told to you the businesses in question do not belong to the church.


Nah, Georgetown University has nothing to do with the Catholic church
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Georgetown University is the oldest Catholic and Jesuit institution of higher learning in the United States. John Carroll’s founding of Georgetown College coincides with the birth of our nation. In 1789, Carroll secured the deed to 60 acres of land on a hilltop overlooking the village of Georgetown. He was appointed Archbishop of Baltimore in 1808.

http://www.georgetown.edu/about/history/index.html

If your complaint is about the insurance company... Georgetown chose that insurance, the insurance didn't choose Georgetown, so your point is moot.

Congratulations, your stupidity level has reached fargle level.

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 5:02:53 PM   
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It`s still is the woman`s policy.....HER insurance and part of HER compensation......


You get insurance as part of your compensation......right?


That means it`s your policy......your property.......no one has the right to tell you how to use it.


Neither do old farts in Rome..


So if it`s not stupidity....what`s your excuse?

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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 5:04:15 PM   
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Nah, Georgetown University has nothing to do with the Catholic church


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RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Tha... - 3/27/2012 5:06:08 PM   
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So you object to the conservatives inviting Catholic leaders to a committee meeting concerning Catholic holdings... Got it


I said nothing of the sort. You either misread me or deliberately distorted my position.

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