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MistressDarkArt -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/7/2012 9:47:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

in RL she gets something out of it


Yep, so true. Foot rubs, honey-do's, help with yard or car, taken to dinner, cuddling w/the kittehs by the fireplace, hugs, back-scratches, a friend...you know, the GOOD stuff. Oh, and I get my domme on too if the mood strikes. All in all, makes for a nice evening. Watching some mouth-breathing piddlytwat shove an eggplant up his rectum...ehhh, not so much.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/7/2012 10:21:48 PM)

If I could have the back scritch AND the cam entertainments, total winning!




Killerangel -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 4:27:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleOdessa


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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

I suspect that online Mistresses demand tribute because they have to get something out of the arrangement.


I do not understand this. If you are wanting to be a Mistress online, it seems that (outside doing it for the money and not truly because you are into the lifestyle) that there would be enjoyment on your end from just being able to be a Mistress over someone. Online or not. In my experience a Dom/me does not acquire their position just for the possible benefits. They do it because they enjoy it, not just because someone is serving them or handing over their money to them. Or perhaps I have been lucky to be with those who did enjoy their position and weren't just looking for money or a servant.


Of course there are lifestyle female Doms who Dominate for the love of it and not for money. There aren't all that many of them, so others have stepped in to fill the gap. Others who want some recompense for their time. No biggie really if consenting adults are doing what they wish....right? There's a shortage of something, someone wants it, he's willing to pay to have his itch scratched. Voila.

As far as what LoreBook meant, do you pay your car mechanic? How about the person who cuts your hair....pay them? Let's leave behind the professions and talk about things people do for the love of it, like maybe gardening, gourmet cooking, or painting (art). Because people love those things with a passion should they be at the beck and call of anyone who loves the same things? As in if I love fine food should that person into gourmet cooking come to my home and cook a meal for me? Should an artist give me a painting? A gardener put in a flower bed for me? Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean you are suddenly now accessible to anyone who wishes to claim your time because they love that something too.

Since when does Domination mean being at the beck and call of whoever gets a hardon? Seems to me that MDA was being kind when she called you naive.




RumpusParable -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 10:41:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleOdessa


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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

I suspect that online Mistresses demand tribute because they have to get something out of the arrangement.


I do not understand this. If you are wanting to be a Mistress online, it seems that (outside doing it for the money and not truly because you are into the lifestyle) that there would be enjoyment on your end from just being able to be a Mistress over someone. Online or not. In my experience a Dom/me does not acquire their position just for the possible benefits. They do it because they enjoy it, not just because someone is serving them or handing over their money to them. Or perhaps I have been lucky to be with those who did enjoy their position and weren't just looking for money or a servant.


I enjoy dominating and playing with real-time subs/slaves/bottoms. I get nothing out of online unless there is a real-time relationship where the online part is just a supplement while they are away.

Why? Because there, for me, is nothing to get out of an online relationship. There is no fun in dominating someone I'll never really see, never really hear, never really touch, never really have an actual relationship with. They get everything they want and I get nothing. There is no domination there, it's them getting wank-fodder and that's all, for me. It's completely one-sided, all for them.

Damn right I want something out of relationship. In some way, shape or form it should be a two-way street where both partners are getting something out of it. Typing to some imaginary sub/bottom while they, basically, fap to it isn't a two-way street.




Lockit -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 11:06:27 AM)

I am not so needy, kinky or sexual that online would do anything for me. I suppose if I really wanted to get off... my handy dandy vibes and my good ol imagination would get it for me better than playing at dominant to some guy on a cam. As for that dominant power surge... well, I don't get that surge from playing with a stranger on cam or in person. There just isn't anything of any worth to me in that, unless we have been in person, are close and fit other areas of my life that I want tended to.

So I see someone wanting online only as someone on the fence with it all... someone that just wants some wank time and someone that doesn't value the things I value.

You want to use someone for wank time... well... you ought to pay for it or consider there are fewer women into it just for the wank. It is what it is... do what you have to do to get what you want... but don't complain because of what you want being hard to find. We all have our challenges in getting what we want. If you want something for nothing, don't be surprised when you get nothing. There has to be some sort of pay off and not every woman wants to be paid off with a wank. I figure that's in the category of... if you want something done right, do it yourself. I can play with myself for a wank far better than someone can on a cam. [:D]




AAkasha -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 6:03:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I am not so needy, kinky or sexual that online would do anything for me. I suppose if I really wanted to get off... my handy dandy vibes and my good ol imagination would get it for me better than playing at dominant to some guy on a cam.


Do you ever watch/enjoy porn to go along with the handy vibe?

I like visuals, and I love good BDSM porn with a hot guy. I also like male voices, breathing, that kind of thing. That said, with the wonders of technology, I find that cyber BDSM can be a great supplement to real life kink. I like custom porn. I like having a guy submit to me on cam, if I am attracted to him. I like making a guy use toys under my direction. This is like porn, but better than porn.

Is it a replacement for real life S&M? Absolutely not. But I am not satisfied by just real life BDSM either. I need more than that. Enjoying "cyber" S&M in addition to real life S&M with my small circle of partners allows me to enjoy S&M with literally hundreds of men if I want from varying backgrounds, varying accents, without limitations. That makes my insatiable and unpredictable appetite happy.

Akasha




obedientangel -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 6:08:23 PM)

Miss Aakasha's inbox just tipped over!




Lockit -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 7:26:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I am not so needy, kinky or sexual that online would do anything for me. I suppose if I really wanted to get off... my handy dandy vibes and my good ol imagination would get it for me better than playing at dominant to some guy on a cam.


Do you ever watch/enjoy porn to go along with the handy vibe?

I like visuals, and I love good BDSM porn with a hot guy. I also like male voices, breathing, that kind of thing. That said, with the wonders of technology, I find that cyber BDSM can be a great supplement to real life kink. I like custom porn. I like having a guy submit to me on cam, if I am attracted to him. I like making a guy use toys under my direction. This is like porn, but better than porn.

Is it a replacement for real life S&M? Absolutely not. But I am not satisfied by just real life BDSM either. I need more than that. Enjoying "cyber" S&M in addition to real life S&M with my small circle of partners allows me to enjoy S&M with literally hundreds of men if I want from varying backgrounds, varying accents, without limitations. That makes my insatiable and unpredictable appetite happy.

Akasha


Well, if I had a group of submissives paying for it... I might enjoy some aspect of it.. but no... I don't. All the porn I need is all in my head. No one has made anything better as far as I am concerned.

If my income base was a part of making sure all the boys with credit cards knew they could be one of the lucky ones... then I would question what other dominants like on the basis of being able to share myself with the masses. [:D] Seriously... you cannot compare the two of us.

Kudo's to what you do and what you want... even for what you like... but I would have more respect for it if you didn't compare apples and oranges.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 11:07:12 PM)

Bud....womem own the game/..deal with it.




MissToYouRedux -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/8/2012 11:28:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Bud....womem own the game/..deal with it.


More words to live by... [;)]




Rochsub2009 -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/9/2012 9:30:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: obedientangel

Miss Aakasha's inbox just tipped over!


Yup! I'll bet she received at least 10,000 dick pics in her inbox within 5 minutes of making her post. [:D]




AAkasha -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/9/2012 3:25:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I am not so needy, kinky or sexual that online would do anything for me. I suppose if I really wanted to get off... my handy dandy vibes and my good ol imagination would get it for me better than playing at dominant to some guy on a cam.


Do you ever watch/enjoy porn to go along with the handy vibe?

I like visuals, and I love good BDSM porn with a hot guy. I also like male voices, breathing, that kind of thing. That said, with the wonders of technology, I find that cyber BDSM can be a great supplement to real life kink. I like custom porn. I like having a guy submit to me on cam, if I am attracted to him. I like making a guy use toys under my direction. This is like porn, but better than porn.

Is it a replacement for real life S&M? Absolutely not. But I am not satisfied by just real life BDSM either. I need more than that. Enjoying "cyber" S&M in addition to real life S&M with my small circle of partners allows me to enjoy S&M with literally hundreds of men if I want from varying backgrounds, varying accents, without limitations. That makes my insatiable and unpredictable appetite happy.

Akasha


Well, if I had a group of submissives paying for it... I might enjoy some aspect of it.. but no... I don't. All the porn I need is all in my head. No one has made anything better as far as I am concerned.

If my income base was a part of making sure all the boys with credit cards knew they could be one of the lucky ones... then I would question what other dominants like on the basis of being able to share myself with the masses. [:D] Seriously... you cannot compare the two of us.

Kudo's to what you do and what you want... even for what you like... but I would have more respect for it if you didn't compare apples and oranges.



To be clear, I am not talking about pay for play subbing on cam - unless I am paying the guy. I have a boytoy right now I have spent a couple hundred dollars on toys on because I want to see him using them on himself when he goes on cam for me, or makes videos for me. In fact, he's so poor, I have sent him gift cards for food so he can make ends meet.

And sure, a woman who LIKES to see guys submit on cam gets endless men lining up for it, but they are deluding themselves thinking a woman wants "any" guy. She has to be attracted to him. I have a "type" I like, if I am going to be blatantly superficial, or, I have to develop chemistry, which takes time. Neither of these things require any financial investment. I am a career woman first and foremost. I even support my husband who only works part time "for fun." People seem to think since I have a hobby on the side that includes a pay site, I must be a pay femdom.

Part of my kink is actually paying men to submit to me. In reality, yes, I could quit my job tomorrow and spend 40 hours a week doing everything from "fin domming" to hot chatting for cash and it's nowhere near my earning potential for what my vanilla career nets me per hour. I'd rather keep things the way they are.

Akasha




Lockit -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/9/2012 3:46:32 PM)

Akasha, I really don't give a shit how much money you make at one of your jobs and how one doesn't come close to the amount you make at the other. I don't care that you state that you only watch guys on cam that you like/are attracted to or if you pay or help men out. I don't care what you do... until you quote me and use what I have said to highlight how amazingly horny for this type of thing you are.

Now... some you really enjoy playing dom with on cam... may be non members of your site and you may hungrily devour them... but it is a fact according to your own site... that you and another dominant will be watching your members cams at certain times. Your members are paid members. Are you attracted to all your members, which basically can sign up and join simply by giving their name and email, etc... along with whatever requirements you have for payment? (Sorry, I wasn't going further into your site by giving any information on myself.)

So... as well has you have covered how you might pay some guy on cam and how much you really, really enjoy this... you are getting paid to watch men on cam... which is exactly what the OP was talking about not wanting to do and half of your true story.

Again... apples and oranges. If I were making money with even a portion of those I watched and instructed on cam... damn straight, I would want everyone to think I really was horny for this shit. [:D] I might even point out or question other domina's that don't hungrily seek this out or play party to it... to highlight how able and willing I was.

I have always respected your knowledge and experience base... but honey, you are making some money doing this and it pays you to look good and hungry... bottom line.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/9/2012 7:00:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Bud....womem own the game/..deal with it.


More words to live by... [;)]


S'wut I do.




DominaCeleste -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 6:31:08 PM)

I have slaves from around the country and across the planet write and ask if they can serve me, if they can be one of my slaves. I always write them back and ask how it is they think they can be of use to me. They ALWAYS write back with saying they don't know and they will do anything. ANYTHING. Such little liars! They can't even come up with ONE way of serving me. After that they get ignored. I don't blame the women who demand tributes. Quit wasting their time, send a tribute or leave them alone.




VanessaChaland -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 6:38:37 PM)

So what does that tell you, lol? :)
You know, its a game. The subs/slaves are trying to use the Pro-Dommes to extract whatever masturbatory fodder they can without paying and the Pro's are tying to "tease-out" just enough of an erection to make the guys get out their wallet. In most cases both sides end up bitter and unfulfilled which is why the guys should just go find a real woman to play with and the "Pro's" should get a job.
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ORIGINAL: DominaCeleste

I have slaves from around the country and across the planet write and ask if they can serve me, if they can be one of my slaves. I always write them back and ask how it is they think they can be of use to me. They ALWAYS write back with saying they don't know and they will do anything. ANYTHING. Such little liars! They can't even come up with ONE way of serving me. After that they get ignored. I don't blame the women who demand tributes. Quit wasting their time, send a tribute or leave them alone.





RedMagic1 -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 6:43:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DominaCeleste
I always write them back and ask how it is they think they can be of use to me. They ALWAYS write back with saying they don't know and they will do anything. ANYTHING. Such little liars! They can't even come up with ONE way of serving me.

Really? If you emailed me that question, I would probably respond, "I could write a poem about how pretty your eyes are."




TNDommeK -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 8:39:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VanessaChaland

So what does that tell you, lol? :)
You know, its a game. The subs/slaves are trying to use the Pro-Dommes to extract whatever masturbatory fodder they can without paying and the Pro's are tying to "tease-out" just enough of an erection to make the guys get out their wallet. In most cases both sides end up bitter and unfulfilled which is why the guys should just go find a real woman to play with and the "Pro's" should get a job.
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ORIGINAL: DominaCeleste

I have slaves from around the country and across the planet write and ask if they can serve me, if they can be one of my slaves. I always write them back and ask how it is they think they can be of use to me. They ALWAYS write back with saying they don't know and they will do anything. ANYTHING. Such little liars! They can't even come up with ONE way of serving me. After that they get ignored. I don't blame the women who demand tributes. Quit wasting their time, send a tribute or leave them alone.





I know I shouldn't feed the trolls but really? "the Pro's should get a job"? First, if she is getting paid to hold sessions, that is a form of income. Second, I know plenty of Pro's, Myself included, that have more than one job. Just a friendly reminder that you should know what you're talking about before opening your mouth. What does employment have to do with getting a sub to pay for session? You can't walk up into the dentist office and expect to get your teeth cleaned and just walk out. Everyone has their own opinion of how they run things. But downing others is not really becoming of someone who is on an alternative lifestyle site.




TNDommeK -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 8:41:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DominaCeleste

I have slaves from around the country and across the planet write and ask if they can serve me, if they can be one of my slaves. I always write them back and ask how it is they think they can be of use to me. They ALWAYS write back with saying they don't know and they will do anything. ANYTHING. Such little liars! They can't even come up with ONE way of serving me. After that they get ignored. I don't blame the women who demand tributes. Quit wasting their time, send a tribute or leave them alone.


I agree with you, they know exactly what the business is...especially since it says so in most Pro Domme's profile.




RedMagic1 -> RE: online mistress....who does not require tribute (4/11/2012 8:47:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I know plenty of Pro's, Myself included, that have more than one job.

The only prodommes I'm aware of who have no income other than fetish either own a dungeon or are professional fetish models/performers in addition to taking private sessions. I think the vast majority of pros (like 95% plus??) have another job. I imagine your ear is closer to the ground on this than mine, though, TNDommeK, but that's been my impression.




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