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Arturas -> Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:31:05 AM)
Well, I normally don't watch MSNBC much. That changed on Monday. I wanted to see how that Obama news organization deals with the the bad news. I was not disappointed and continue to be entertained you see, because the spin changes daily now. Monday: The Most Reverend Sharpton accuses the Supreme Court of givng the upcoming election to the GOP. Therefore it is the Supreme Court's fault on Monday afternoon. Tuesday: All day we hear how the GOP orginally invented the mandate and so it's not the Demo's fault because Obama was simply using their idea. Therefore on Tuesday afternoon it is the fault of the GOP. Wednesday morning: This morning it is all about the man who spearheaded the arguments for the Obama administrations, Edwin Kneedler, a government lawyer who has argued more cases before the Supreme Court than any other, this morning we hear how he stumbled and could not finish his sentences and botched the arguements, so it's not that the mandate is unconsititional, oh no, its just that this nucklehead could not present Obama's position due to incompetence. Therefore currently it is Obama's lawyer that is at fault. I continue to keep my channel on MSNBC for more updates. Perhaps soon they will finally come to the conculsion it was Bush's fault all along and certainly I can live with that (because) it is not Obama's and Pelosi's fault. How could it be? Well, what say you? Who's fault is it? I say it is Osama's fault. If he had not struck the twin towers we would not be in such wars and then the gas prices would be low and we could have saved all that money we spent finding him and instead spent it on free healthcare for the children. It was "for the children" we did this because "it takes a village" and so clearly this Supreme Court fiasco is the children's fault. Thank God children can't vote. Can they? One would think so...

Hillwilliam -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:34:40 AM)
Yaknow, artie, you're getting like fargle with his Zimmerman posts. Are you an insurance rep or something?

Arturas -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:37:17 AM)
That was low. So low.

DarkSteven -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:40:47 AM)
Arturas, I'm looking at CNN and it does not indicate that the Supreme Court has issued a ruling. Did I miss something, or is this speculation on your part?

Arturas -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:46:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Arturas, I'm looking at CNN and it does not indicate that the Supreme Court has issued a ruling. Did I miss something, or is this speculation on your part? Nope. Speculation on MSNBC's part. Please see yesterdays post of mine on the subject of "MSNBC Website Headline is...". But you know that already, did I get your feathers up with my post on your thread? I meant no harm. I sorry.

DarkSteven -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 10:51:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Arturas, I'm looking at CNN and it does not indicate that the Supreme Court has issued a ruling. Did I miss something, or is this speculation on your part? Nope. Speculation on MSNBC's part. Please see yesterdays post of mine on the subject of "MSNBC Website Headline is...". But you know that already, did I get your feathers up with my post on your thread? I meant no harm. I sorry. Thanks for clarifying that it's MSN's projection. I disagree with your post on my thread, but replied with my own take. I very seldom take this debate personally, and am disappointed that so many do.

Moonhead -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 11:06:31 AM)
I suppose for some a political party isn't just a bunch of suits they vote for because they believe the twits to be slightly better than the other bunch of twits, they have so much invested in their "ideology" that they get arsey if they perceive an attack on it.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 11:30:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Are you an insurance rep or something? quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas That was low. So low. I'm not feeling any love, gentlemen. LOL Peace and comfort, Michael

RottenJohnny -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/28/2012 11:48:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas Who's fault is it? I blame whoever came up with this stupid idea in the first place. I find myself being pushed ever closer to the "Bitter Clingers" (zoiks!). I almost look forward to holding my nose and voting for a loser Republican in the hopes this nonsense will be kicked to the scrap heap.

DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 12:54:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Yaknow, artie, you're getting like fargle with his Zimmerman posts. Are you an insurance rep or something? quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas That was low. So low. It's a legitimate question, though. Why so eager? [sm=couch.gif]

DaddySatyr -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 1:04:13 AM)
<----------- Licensed Life & Health producer Peace and comfort, Michael

Politesub53 -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 3:08:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas That was low. So low. But not as low as your remark about the President striking the twin towers.

DomYngBlk -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 6:29:57 AM)
Not sure the point of the OP. Are you suggesting that Congress and the President shouldn't try to craft legislation?

PeonForHer -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 6:56:00 AM)
FR All germs and viruses in the USA have the inalienable right to flourish without hindrance by the government. And they should be able to bear arms. Anyone who says otherwise is a goddamned communist.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 7:07:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr <----------- Licensed Life & Health producer Peace and comfort, Michael You have a legitimate reason to dislike it intensly.

Iamsemisweet -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 7:27:52 AM)
So is my ex husband. I will tell you what I used to tell him.. The insurance industry sucks. quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr <----------- Licensed Life & Health producer Peace and comfort, Michael

kalikshama -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 12:13:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas Who's fault is it? I blame whoever came up with this stupid idea in the first place. I find myself being pushed ever closer to the "Bitter Clingers" (zoiks!). I almost look forward to holding my nose and voting for a loser Republican in the hopes this nonsense will be kicked to the scrap heap. That would be Mitt Romney. The June 6, 2011 issue of the New Yorker discusses this in "Romney's Dilemma: How his greatest achievement has become his biggest liability." Ironically, Obama was against the individual mandate while campaigning in 2008 and had to be talked into it in 2009. Romney supported the individual mandate as "upholding the Republican value of personal responsibility."

slvemike4u -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 12:16:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Arturas, I'm looking at CNN and it does not indicate that the Supreme Court has issued a ruling. Did I miss something, or is this speculation on your part? I read that no ruling is expected till sometime in June...so yes,what Arturas is doing is speculating/wishful thinking

DaddySatyr -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 1:18:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr <----------- Licensed Life & Health producer Peace and comfort, Michael You have a legitimate reason to dislike it intensly. You're right but, I'm an American, first. Screw what it'll do to business (and I'm not saying that it won't hurt my bottom line, a little). I'll make money, doing something. I just believe it is absolutely wrong for government to be in the business of selling just about anything. Add to that that they are (in my mind) abusing their power by mandating that the people they're supposed to serve buy their product or face fines/jail. It' absurd (to me, anyway). They're not a corporation. They're a governing body. I saw this kind of shit, coming when they went into business with the tobacco companies (but that's a whole other story). Peace and comfort, Michael ETA: Is the site aware that the preview windows (on the other side and up top, here) are not functioning? As a matter of fact, the preview window for the forums is completely gone from the other side.

RottenJohnny -> RE: Obamacare Unconstitutional - who's to blame? (3/29/2012 1:57:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama That would be Mitt Romney. Yeah, I know (kicking dirt). It's horribly frustrating to think this guy is going to be the Republican candidate. What a joke. But you know what? I'll probably vote for him just because there's the hope he'll collapse under the pressure of his party and throw this thing overboard if the Supreme Court doesn't.

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