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Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 7:21:59 AM   
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Anyone have any good theories about Jet Blue pilot Clayton Osbon?
If you were a terrorist, do you think you might think to get a job in an airport coffeeshop or employee lounge for the purpose of putting a little LSD in the right cup?

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 7:24:40 AM   
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I know it's far out but a psychotic reaction to these fake drugs they're selling in head shops like "Bath Salts" is the only thing I can think of. They're supposed to have some nasty side effeects in some people.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 7:35:34 AM   
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Wasn't it only a month ago that a stewardess had a breakdown similar to this?

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 8:14:21 AM   
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Sounds like a psychotic break but why...?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-usa-crime-jetblue-pilot-idUSBRE82R1GF20120329

TROUBLE IN THE COCKPIT

An affidavit by an FBI agent shows trouble for the flight started before the Airbus A320 took off from New York City's LaGuardia Airport enroute to Las Vegas with 141 passengers and crew.

Osbon was late arriving at the airport, and missed the routine pre-flight crew briefing, agent John Whitworth said in the affidavit. Whitworth said problems continued as the plane took off.

"Osbon talked about his church and needed to focus," Whitworth said in the affidavit. "Osbon began talking about religion, but his statements were not coherent."

The copilot grew nervous when Osbon told them that "things just don't matter" and began yelling over the plane's radio system, telling air traffic controllers to "be quiet," according to Whitworth's account in the affidavit. "The First Officer became really worried when Osbon said, ‘We need to take a leap of faith'," Whitworth said in the document. "Osbon started trying to correlate completely unrelated numbers and he talked about the sins in Las Vegas. At one point, Osbon told the (first officer), ‘We're not going to Vegas,' and began giving what was described as a sermon."

CHAOS IN THE CABIN

Passengers who were on the plane described a chaotic mid-flight scene in which a man in a JetBlue uniform, apparently locked out of the cockpit, began banging on the door and demanding to be let inside. Passengers subdued him.

"People behind me, a bunch of big guys, started going up there and trying to help, and we found out that the guy banging was actually the pilot, and he was trying to get into the cockpit because the other co-pilot had locked him out," passenger Grant Heppes told Reuters.

"Everybody seemed pretty nervous," he said. "Nobody was sure what was going on. Everybody seemed very concerned."

Osbon yelled jumbled comments about "Jesus, September 11th, Iraq, Iran and terrorists" while passengers converged on him, the affidavit said.

An off-duty pilot aboard the plane took Osbon's place at the controls as the plane made an emergency landing.

Barger said there had been no earlier signs of problems with the pilot.

"I've known the captain personally for a long period of time, and there's been no indication of this at all," Barger told NBC, adding that the pilot was a "consummate professional."

The incident was the second to involve erratic behavior by a JetBlue crew member since August 2010, when a flight attendant upset after an altercation with a passenger bolted from a plane by deploying and sliding down the inflatable emergency chute.

Lawyers for the flight attendant in that incident, Steven Slater, later told reporters he had acted in part out of frustration with the chaos of air travel and that he was under stress because his mother was suffering from lung cancer.

The incident also came just two weeks after a female flight attendant started ranting about a possible crash over the public address system of an American Airlines plane. She, too, was subdued by passengers and crew as the plane returned to the gate at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 12:17:32 PM   
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In the case of the flight attendants I think
it was likely stress.
It's a stressful job that doesn't pay
that well and the routine can be very
grinding. I looked into training as a
flight attendant a few years ago and
every flight attendant I talked to
discouraged almost to a person they
hated their jobs. Ones who had been
at it for several years all said the public
had become increasingly hard to deal
with and were more rude and aggressive
than they were when they started their
careers.
As for the pilot it does sound like a
chemical reaction of some sort.
I wouldn't assume he was slipped
something necessarily. He could
have taken something recreationally
and it caused some kind of psychotic
episode sometime afterwards. Or he
could be taking medication that didn't
mix well.
Might could be a bipolar manic episode
of some sort or a bad reaction to
medication prescribed for bipolar or
depression.
I don't know how old a man he is but
another cause could be early onset
dementia of some sort.
There've been cases of people in the
early stages of Alzheimers becoming
disoriented on planes.
Rita Hayworth had a meltdown during
a plane flight shortly before she was
diagnosed with Alzheimers.
I believe she became disruptive even
violent. She was escorted off the flight
by two men looking wild eyed and
confused. It was generally assumed at
the time that she was drunk.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 12:20:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Wasn't it only a month ago that a stewardess had a breakdown similar to this?

Yes, but she wasn't going to fly the plane, and was a little less attention seeky about her tantrum as well.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 1:13:17 PM   
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Okay, the guy freaked out. Did they do a tox screen on him to see if he was on anything? I haven't seen that in the reports.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 1:17:57 PM   
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Not seen anything about that yet, but I'd be bloody surprised if they didn't...

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 1:24:46 PM   
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I just hope they find out whatever is wrong with the guy and get him well. I'm afraid his flying days might be over.

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RE: Jet Blue - 3/30/2012 1:32:02 PM   
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That was probably a given as soon as he started freaking out, sadly.

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