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littlecherie -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/4/2012 6:22:22 AM)
Don't do it? There will always be a risk, since it is free software. Just know it may or may not happen, and go from there. shrug

sunshinemiss -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/4/2012 6:39:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady While the cultural differences of course do exist, you don't even address his question of whether or not there is a "safe" way to cam and protect himself, regardless of his location or culture. True enough. But why should I? I don't have a further answer to the OP's specific question (which you and other posters addressed exceedingly well). I don't see a reason to post a rehashing of what several people already had said. I took the question as having an implied concern - the uglies that can occur if blackmail is not avoided and one is "outed". That doesn't seem to me like too big of a leap considering the questions asked. It seems that the OP may not be thinking all of this through. I don't think it is unreasonable to mention other things that should be considered that can be a result of blackmail. The differences in how the internet works in different countries was not addressed by anyone else and is a real and very serious issue. At least one poster presumed that the USA is in South East Asia and that the laws there would also be applicable elsewhere! (I'm avoiding the whole international law question here of course.) Blackmail is the least of one's worries if one is being watched by the police and has to be concerned about being charged with a crime, jail time and the like. Is there a reason the rest of you ignored that? Of course - it isn't the same kind of issue where you are. It is an issue in other countries. Would it even occur to you to think in that way? Probably not. And I say Hallelujah for that. As an aside, during my time on CM I've noticed that there is a precedent of discussions sometimes going off on related - and sometimes unrelated - tangents. It's interesting that you chose to target my response about a related and damned important issue rather than making the same point to the folks quoting songs and the people giving pithy answers. Interesting, but no matter. best, sunshine *efc

OnlineSubForYou -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/9/2012 5:17:17 PM)
There was a time I didn't care about someone on the other side of the earth having a picture of my face. Howerver, search engines are soon going to introduce the ability to upload a picture of someone, and then showing you other websites on which a picture of that same person appears. This way, someone who has a face picture of you could find much more information about you than you may want.

wittynamehere -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/9/2012 5:19:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subsissy2012 i am a sub sissy cuck and my wife is a hot wife.. we enjoy mild exhibitionism, force, training, cum denial etc. I am willing to submit fully to a mature dom and get sissified fully. We are from south east asia and as you know the society is not very liberal with these. at another site I have been already being a victim of a dom who tried to blackmail me by recording the cam session using the cam capture software (now its available for free online!).... it was a shock for me and broke the trust... we closed the account of that site and came here... my general question is "how to avoid being blackmailed while in cam". I believe cam is a good way to communicate with a master who is far off from us... but how to understand whether he is trustworthy to show face and not being copied / circulated over the net... this might be a silly issue to ask, but i felt this is the right forum to take some advice from the experienced. regards My first instinct is that this person WANTS to be blackmailed and is enjoying chatting about it with us.

OsideGirl -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/9/2012 5:29:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wittynamehere My first instinct is that this person WANTS to be blackmailed and is enjoying chatting about it with us. I got that impression too, since the answer is painfully obvious.

RedMagic1 -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/9/2012 6:51:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subsissy2012 my general question is "how to avoid being blackmailed while in cam". I believe cam is a good way to communicate with a master who is far off from us... but how to understand whether he is trustworthy to show face and not being copied / circulated over the net... I imagine one could write a webchat client in Microsoft Silverlight 4 or 5 that protected the camera stream of both parties. You and the dom both install the chat client on your respective computers, and you can see each other's camera feed but can only livestream it, unless someone knows how to hack Silverlight. I don't know of a working client of that nature, though, and I didn't see anything on the first page of a search I just ran. It's an interesting problem though, thank you. I might think about it some more. Changing topics: Sunny -- if you still know people with computer privacy issues, please message me here or on FB. I have a moderate understanding of that area now, more so than I did some months back when you posted on Fet.

LafayetteLady -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/10/2012 4:02:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady While the cultural differences of course do exist, you don't even address his question of whether or not there is a "safe" way to cam and protect himself, regardless of his location or culture. True enough. But why should I? I don't have a further answer to the OP's specific question (which you and other posters addressed exceedingly well). I don't see a reason to post a rehashing of what several people already had said. I took the question as having an implied concern - the uglies that can occur if blackmail is not avoided and one is "outed". That doesn't seem to me like too big of a leap considering the questions asked. It seems that the OP may not be thinking all of this through. I don't think it is unreasonable to mention other things that should be considered that can be a result of blackmail. The differences in how the internet works in different countries was not addressed by anyone else and is a real and very serious issue. At least one poster presumed that the USA is in South East Asia and that the laws there would also be applicable elsewhere! (I'm avoiding the whole international law question here of course.) Blackmail is the least of one's worries if one is being watched by the police and has to be concerned about being charged with a crime, jail time and the like. Is there a reason the rest of you ignored that? Of course - it isn't the same kind of issue where you are. It is an issue in other countries. Would it even occur to you to think in that way? Probably not. And I say Hallelujah for that. As an aside, during my time on CM I've noticed that there is a precedent of discussions sometimes going off on related - and sometimes unrelated - tangents. It's interesting that you chose to target my response about a related and damned important issue rather than making the same point to the folks quoting songs and the people giving pithy answers. Interesting, but no matter. best, sunshine *efc Personally, it is my view that if something is that illegal in the area where you live, you would be best to avoid it entirely and yes, I do check the location of posters when they ask a question. Honestly, anyone who is camming and worrying after the fact about what people can do with the information isn't "thinking it through" regardless of where they are, and no amount of kindly advice is going to do them any good. As for why I didn't say anything to those "pithy" snide remarks or song posters....they rarely say anything of substance anyway and so I ignore them as being not worth the time or effort to respond. You, on the other hand typically give very good advice on the subject at hand. Someone who didn't take the time to think, knowing that they live in a place where their activities would be seriously frowned upon to the point of prosecution isn't really going to benefit from you pointing it out, and you pointing it out to those here who can't be bothered to notice isn't likely to do much good either. People tend to only take information from the post they want to comment on regarding all the rest, including, but not limited to location, gender, and even actual question.

SailingBum -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/10/2012 9:59:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady While the cultural differences of course do exist, you don't even address his question of whether or not there is a "safe" way to cam and protect himself, regardless of his location or culture. True enough. But why should I? I don't have a further answer to the OP's specific question (which you and other posters addressed exceedingly well). I don't see a reason to post a rehashing of what several people already had said. I took the question as having an implied concern - the uglies that can occur if blackmail is not avoided and one is "outed". That doesn't seem to me like too big of a leap considering the questions asked. It seems that the OP may not be thinking all of this through. I don't think it is unreasonable to mention other things that should be considered that can be a result of blackmail. The differences in how the internet works in different countries was not addressed by anyone else and is a real and very serious issue. At least one poster presumed that the USA is in South East Asia and that the laws there would also be applicable elsewhere! (I'm avoiding the whole international law question here of course.) Blackmail is the least of one's worries if one is being watched by the police and has to be concerned about being charged with a crime, jail time and the like. Is there a reason the rest of you ignored that? Of course - it isn't the same kind of issue where you are. It is an issue in other countries. Would it even occur to you to think in that way? Probably not. And I say Hallelujah for that. As an aside, during my time on CM I've noticed that there is a precedent of discussions sometimes going off on related - and sometimes unrelated - tangents. It's interesting that you chose to target my response about a related and damned important issue rather than making the same point to the folks quoting songs and the people giving pithy answers. Interesting, but no matter. best, sunshine *efc Personally, it is my view that if something is that illegal in the area where you live, you would be best to avoid it entirely and yes, I do check the location of posters when they ask a question. Honestly, anyone who is camming and worrying after the fact about what people can do with the information isn't "thinking it through" regardless of where they are, and no amount of kindly advice is going to do them any good. As for why I didn't say anything to those "pithy" snide remarks or song posters....they rarely say anything of substance anyway and so I ignore them as being not worth the time or effort to respond. You, on the other hand typically give very good advice on the subject at hand. Someone who didn't take the time to think, knowing that they live in a place where their activities would be seriously frowned upon to the point of prosecution isn't really going to benefit from you pointing it out, and you pointing it out to those here who can't be bothered to notice isn't likely to do much good either. People tend to only take information from the post they want to comment on regarding all the rest, including, but not limited to location, gender, and even actual question. yea sunny the OP is pretty moronic the software that comes with the cam will capture. I couldn't help but notice the post by red ie the privacy issue without getting into the issues basically unless you have extreme hacking skills you will not have privacy on the net. If you explain what your attempting to do I might be able to point you in the right direction. BadOne

sunshinemiss -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/10/2012 9:26:19 PM)
Hey thanks for the offers of help, fellas! I appreciate it. I've downloaded the "Hide my IP address" software in hopes that it helps. I like that fet has their site encrypted. I don't think CM is. I know C Chat isn't. I get the idea around the cam and all that. I'm not TOTALLY clueless after all. :)

SailingBum -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/10/2012 11:56:25 PM)
sunny I suspect in your situation the gov't is controlling the IP you are using and they prolly have laws that prevent you from hiding your IP. So basically once you fire up the software <your IP will know when you do> you are already breaking the their law so you might want to check on the laws covering this. One of my sailing buds was deported from Dubai for flipping off a cop. It made the headlines over there and everything. So be careful BadOne

JeffBC -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/11/2012 1:00:27 AM)
Generally I recommend not doing things you're embarrassed about... especially in public. That pretty much solves the blackmail problem. Yes, the internet is public... all of it.

FrankAr -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/11/2012 4:49:09 AM)
Greetings, There is no way to stop a majority of things hitting the web. There is always someone out there with the knowledge and know how to do anything. We have people in the aussie land that use their wireless internet laptops to secure someone's iphone details while they are using it. The person does not know it, but there is a security feature in the iphone that does stop this to a minimum, as shown on Today Tonight on channel 7 in aussie land. It is trying to stop other people in using your pics somewhere else, have them stamped with the person's nicname on them to stop this, and then it does become harder to crop the image. To be simple, just be in vanilla mode while in webcam. If the other party is interested then things can go to a public meeting from there, because safety is a major issue. Anything can be stopped if a few simple rules are taken into account. Frank Ar.

ResidentSadist -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/11/2012 6:09:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Killerangel I don't know that there is a way to cam without the possibility of having it be recorded. There is no way to avoid recording. If you can see it you can record it. http://fraps.com/

JeffBC -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/11/2012 7:53:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist There is no way to avoid recording. If you can see it you can record it. and the simple reason for this is if that the receiving computer has enough information to render the image or video stream, then it has it... period. You hope that some sort of software isn't being used to do something other than view it... but as RS pointed out with the fraps example, that's hope only. There is no way to guarantee it. There is no possible security software that could ever make it "secure". In the end, if the data is there to render the frames in the video stream then it is there and it can be used for any purpose whatsoever.

RedMagic1 -> RE: how to avoid being blackmailed via webcam chat? (4/11/2012 8:25:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss I've downloaded the "Hide my IP address" software in hopes that it helps. Not all IP masks are created equal. Here is a good list. https://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-really-take-anonymity-seriously-111007/ TOR is superb, if you connect through a bridge. Don't use Ultrasurf/Ultrareach. It is breakable, and it gets people arrested.

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