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subrob1967 -> For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 2:23:28 PM)
Obama Signs Ban On Insider Trading By Congress quote: Surrounded by a group of bipartisan lawmakers, President Obama today signed the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act, banning insider trading on Capitol Hill. http://news.yahoo.com/obama-signs-ban-insider-trading-congress-193105135--abc-news-politics.html

Lucylastic -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 2:34:09 PM)
some days you surprise me.... today.. Im not surprised that you posted this but I am smiling at you..for what its worth Good for the Prez, lets hope it makes a difference

fucktoyprincess -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 3:47:49 PM)
I'm confused. I thought insider trading laws already applied to everyone. Obviously, as with any criminal prosecution, there is prosecutorial discretion on whether to pursue a case against someone or not - but really - the existing laws on securities regulation exempted all Congressional members from prosecution for insider trading???? If that were the case, shouldn't all of them be much, much wealthier????? Something isn't adding up here....

bob35 -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 4:13:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess I'm confused. I thought insider trading laws already applied to everyone. Obviously, as with any criminal prosecution, there is prosecutorial discretion on whether to pursue a case against someone or not - but really - the existing laws on securities regulation exempted all Congressional members from prosecution for insider trading???? If that were the case, shouldn't all of them be much, much wealthier????? Something isn't adding up here.... Its pretty much a photo op so that they can pat themselves on the back and pretend something has changed.

DarkSteven -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 4:35:27 PM)
ftp - There are laws shielding Congresscritters from anything they say on the floor. Joseph McCarthy used that as a shield when he smeared people by claiming they were Communists some 70 years ago. For all I know, there are laws prohibiting them from being prosecuted for using info they got on the floor.

Hillwilliam -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 6:40:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic some days you surprise me.... today.. Im not surprised that you posted this but I am smiling at you..for what its worth Good for the Prez, lets hope it makes a difference I'm not surprised. Rob is hardcore right wing but he thinks for himself. We usually disagree but so what? That's a rarity on both sides of the aisle.

Hillwilliam -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 6:41:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess I'm confused. I thought insider trading laws already applied to everyone. Obviously, as with any criminal prosecution, there is prosecutorial discretion on whether to pursue a case against someone or not - but really - the existing laws on securities regulation exempted all Congressional members from prosecution for insider trading???? If that were the case, shouldn't all of them be much, much wealthier????? Something isn't adding up here.... They apply to basically everyone but members of congress.

bob35 -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 6:49:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven ftp - There are laws shielding Congresscritters from anything they say on the floor. Joseph McCarthy used that as a shield when he smeared people by claiming they were Communists some 70 years ago. For all I know, there are laws prohibiting them from being prosecuted for using info they got on the floor. In general Congress is protected, but obviously theres a good reason for that, so its up to congress to police themselves and for the most part they fail to do, except for when the public outrage gets so bad they have no choice, but even at that point the congressman can simply resign thus ending the investigation into his wrong doing.

Lucylastic -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 6:50:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic some days you surprise me.... today.. Im not surprised that you posted this but I am smiling at you..for what its worth Good for the Prez, lets hope it makes a difference I'm not surprised. Rob is hardcore right wing but he thinks for himself. We usually disagree but so what? That's a rarity on both sides of the aisle. it is...which is why I smiled..I can appreciate it.

Marini -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 6:52:27 PM)
quote: I'm not surprised. Rob is hardcore right wing but he thinks for himself. We usually disagree but so what? That's a rarity on both sides of the aisle. Count, me as someone that seriously thinks for herself. Fuck both parties, as far as I am concerned, they both have contributed to ruining this country. I vote Democratic, but more often than not, they are also in bed with corporate America. What did they do to stop all this rampant outsourcing that has been going on for 30 years? What did they do to stop the millions of jobs that have gone forever, bye bye? I am for whomever/whatever is going to salvage and save this country, and help make it the great country it used to be. Peace

LookieNoNookie -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 7:38:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Obama Signs Ban On Insider Trading By Congress quote: Surrounded by a group of bipartisan lawmakers, President Obama today signed the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act, banning insider trading on Capitol Hill. http://news.yahoo.com/obama-signs-ban-insider-trading-congress-193105135--abc-news-politics.html Lemme see if I grasp this (because I'm sure I'm missing something key here....). Obama signed a law that's been in force for 47 years. Can't make money in the market that you (already) know about. Congress (people) should be governed by federal laws that exclude them from making profits (excess or otherwise)...kinda like us....which if we did, would throw us into federal prison (am I missing anything yet?)... But it's a law...which governs American citizens. Hmmmmm......if I recall....they're (Congress people) citizens.... And they need a special law to comport to the federal laws?

DomKen -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/4/2012 9:49:00 PM)
Congress routinely exempts themselves, and sometimes the executive branch as well, from all sorts of laws. Insider trading was one such law. OSHA is another.

kalikshama -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 7:21:10 AM)
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subfever -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 1:01:21 PM)
quote: Fuck both parties, as far as I am concerned, they both have contributed to ruining this country. Seems that more and more people are finally figuring this out as time passes.

GotSteel -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 8:53:50 PM)
subrob's proud of the President....Obama 2012, it's going to be a fucking landslide.

servantforuse -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 8:56:02 PM)
A landslide for the Republicans..

tj444 -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 9:15:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini I vote Democratic, but more often than not, they are also in bed with corporate America. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. [sm=rofl.gif]

erieangel -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 10:56:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Marini I vote Democratic, but more often than not, they are also in bed with corporate America. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. [sm=rofl.gif] So...we should vote the generic republican thinking things would be different?? If I'm not happy with somebody in office, I always vote against that person in the primary but in the general I vote for the person who has shown in any way that they hold at least some of my believes, and it is usually a democrat (except when Kathy Dahlkemper ran for Congress) I voted against her in the primary and voted for Phil English in the general. It'll be a long time before my district gets a congresscritter like English. The current one, Kelly, hasn't even had any district meetings except in his hometown, which is over an hour away from me and I live in the largest city in his district--he ignores us up here.

tj4444 -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 11:31:43 PM)
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tj444 -> RE: For the first time in three years I'm proud of our President (4/6/2012 11:33:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Marini I vote Democratic, but more often than not, they are also in bed with corporate America. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. [sm=rofl.gif] So...we should vote the generic republican thinking things would be different?? If I'm not happy with somebody in office, I always vote against that person in the primary but in the general I vote for the person who has shown in any way that they hold at least some of my believes, and it is usually a democrat (except when Kathy Dahlkemper ran for Congress) I voted against her in the primary and voted for Phil English in the general. It'll be a long time before my district gets a congresscritter like English. The current one, Kelly, hasn't even had any district meetings except in his hometown, which is over an hour away from me and I live in the largest city in his district--he ignores us up here. I just thought it was funny.. and what has voting for the other guy gotten you? two corrupt parties that sell you out every time.. the US needs a bloody revolution (the real kind), imo.. voting isnt going to get you anything other than what you have already gotten.. but go ahead and vote since it makes ya'll feel so much better... but dont tell me its gonna make a difference.. as far as this.. ummm.. groundbreaking law Obama just signed.. I wonder how many loopholes ya could drive a truck thru it has.. [8\|]

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