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thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 6:16:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: supragenius look up guillens career stats he was oaky glove no hit big fuckign waest of space compaered to the shortstops we have now also major leageu baseball doesnt pay palerys individual teams do and yeah soemtimes teams make mistakes just look at soembody still paying that fat cheater manny ramirez do your homework befoer you put your foot in your sphinketer quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: supragenius ozzy guillen was a shitty playre. hit above the mendoza line then talk shit, asshole what was the questoni? MLB pays shitty players to play ball????? Who knew Please do your home work before commenting on my asshole. We are discussing free speech and you want to control what a man is allowed to say based on your opinion of his ball playing abilities.

Musicmystery -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 6:53:32 AM)
quote: MLB is not part of anything we might recognize as free enterprise. It is a form of institutionalized slavery. What bullshit. If this is true, then Marx is right--all employment is slavery. As for free enterprise--you buy a franchise, follow the commission---not essentially different from McDonald's. Except the pay is MUCH better, and cities can be convinced to help you buy your physical plant.

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 8:54:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: MLB is not part of anything we might recognize as free enterprise. It is a form of institutionalized slavery. What bullshit. If this is true, then Marx is right--all employment is slavery. As for free enterprise--you buy a franchise, follow the commission---not essentially different from McDonald's. Except the pay is MUCH better, and cities can be convinced to help you buy your physical plant. May all of those who play baseball in mlb change teams at will? In the world of free enterprise one may change employers at will.

Musicmystery -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 11:03:58 AM)
IN the world of free enterprise you enter contractual agreements for a project or a period of time. You have freedom to enter into them or not. You can also break contracts under a number of conditions.

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 4:25:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery IN the world of free enterprise you enter contractual agreements for a project or a period of time. You have freedom to enter into them or not. You can also break contracts under a number of conditions. While the above is true in a system of free enterprise it is not true of mlb. You can claim it what you wish but mlb is not even in the same zip code with free enterprise.

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 5:10:07 PM)
quote: The wealthy bailed because they were better off under batista,there was no middle class and the poor were the ones who threw batista out. I have a friend who settled in Riverside RI who was three when his parents, who were basically serfs on a big estate were brought to New England by their wealthy benefactors who'd also fled the Batista - Castro show down. Rickie used to tell me that his partents worked for almost two years for these people like animals before they figured out the father could REALLY leave and get a job and a home elsewhere. Cool family. I got his baby brother Ignasio a job years later with big blue. quote: You wern't there but I was during the missile crissis. Dude, I would love to read this as a separate thread. you were really there? How old were you and how was it you were there? quote: If one considers that in 1960 cuba had about 7 million people those who left amounted to about 1% of the country...that seems to speak pretty clearly where the wealth was concentrated. Gee sounds sort of familiar.. though we have it better off ... FOR THE TIME BEING.

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 5:45:06 PM)
quote: Dude, I would love to read this as a separate thread. you were really there? How old were you and how was it you were there? Yes I was really there. I was 18. I was in the military.

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 5:53:54 PM)
quote: Yes I was really there. I was 18. I was in the military. Some time, I mean if you don't mind, it would be cool to read it in a contiguous storyline. I know that might be a pain in the neck but it's a VERY significant time in our modern history and frankly, a pretty damned interesting one. Oh, and thanks.

thishereboi -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 6:40:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: Yes I was really there. I was 18. I was in the military. Some time, I mean if you don't mind, it would be cool to read it in a contiguous storyline. I know that might be a pain in the neck but it's a VERY significant time in our modern history and frankly, a pretty damned interesting one. Oh, and thanks. Yes it was and if I am doing the math right, the 50 year anniversary is coming up this year. I have to admit, I didn't realize that thompson was that old.

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 6:45:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: Yes I was really there. I was 18. I was in the military. Some time, I mean if you don't mind, it would be cool to read it in a contiguous storyline. I know that might be a pain in the neck but it's a VERY significant time in our modern history and frankly, a pretty damned interesting one. Oh, and thanks. Yes it was and if I am doing the math right, the 50 year anniversary is coming up this year. I have to admit, I didn't realize that thompson was that old. I will be 68 this year.

Musicmystery -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 8:24:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery IN the world of free enterprise you enter contractual agreements for a project or a period of time. You have freedom to enter into them or not. You can also break contracts under a number of conditions. While the above is true in a system of free enterprise it is not true of mlb. You can claim it what you wish but mlb is not even in the same zip code with free enterprise. Of course it is. It's only one place to play ball. International baseball is huge--Americans just don't watch it. Players sign contracts. They don't have to. Business people do too--even with conditions on what they can say, even after they leave. Welcome to reality. But rule one is, if you don't like the deal, walk. No different here.

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/4/2012 8:46:44 PM)
quote: I will be 68 this year. But you debate like a man fresh out of grad school.[:D]

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/6/2012 4:04:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery IN the world of free enterprise you enter contractual agreements for a project or a period of time. You have freedom to enter into them or not. You can also break contracts under a number of conditions. While the above is true in a system of free enterprise it is not true of mlb. You can claim it what you wish but mlb is not even in the same zip code with free enterprise. Of course it is. It's only one place to play ball. International baseball is huge--Americans just don't watch it. Players sign contracts. They don't have to. Business people do too--even with conditions on what they can say, even after they leave. Welcome to reality. But rule one is, if you don't like the deal, walk. No different here. Until you acquaint yourself with the special employment rules that apply to mlb and no other free enterprise system in america this discussion is suspended.

thompsonx -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/6/2012 4:06:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: I will be 68 this year. But you debate like a man fresh out of grad school.[:D] I prefer discussion to debate.

Dom4subssub4doms -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/6/2012 4:19:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: MLB is not part of anything we might recognize as free enterprise. It is a form of institutionalized slavery. What bullshit. If this is true, then Marx is right--all employment is slavery. As for free enterprise--you buy a franchise, follow the commission---not essentially different from McDonald's. Except the pay is MUCH better, and cities can be convinced to help you buy your physical plant. It's a monopoly not a free enterprise

thishereboi -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/8/2012 7:18:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: Yes I was really there. I was 18. I was in the military. Some time, I mean if you don't mind, it would be cool to read it in a contiguous storyline. I know that might be a pain in the neck but it's a VERY significant time in our modern history and frankly, a pretty damned interesting one. Oh, and thanks. Yes it was and if I am doing the math right, the 50 year anniversary is coming up this year. I have to admit, I didn't realize that thompson was that old. I will be 68 this year. Well in that case, you might want to fix your profile. It still says your 62

Anaxagoras -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/8/2012 7:31:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Yes it was and if I am doing the math right, the 50 year anniversary is coming up this year. I have to admit, I didn't realize that thompson was that old. I will be 68 this year. Well in that case, you might want to fix your profile. It still says your 62 Not to worry, its just taking Tx a wee bit of time to catch up. After all he still thinks the Cold War is in effect (and/or that the "russia" of the USSR era still exists) http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4110892 [8D]

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/8/2012 7:48:45 AM)
quote: He might want to invest in a remote starter for his car. Why ... did Marco Rubio get around to reading the remarks?

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/8/2012 7:55:11 AM)
quote: How come there are not a bunch of folks here to defend his speech like they defended Rushie's? Simple. They aren't TOTALLY CO-DEPENDENT on a ball player of cuban extraction the way the are towards the FAT SLIMEY DRUG-DEALER-LIKE panderer to all that is hateful in free speech. A guy who understands the fear of addiction (BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING JUNKIE)m and manipulates his weak minded listeners masterfully based on that understanding.

SternSkipper -> RE: No freedom of speech if it pisses someone off. (5/8/2012 8:01:10 AM)
quote: With Rush it was the consumers that said they didn't like what was said. The consumers and the advertisers make decisions about what they want which not a "freedom" issue. Too bad they gave up. I wish they had kept on the guy... because every time consumers drop their ball these guys come back feeling a little more empowered. And consequently the shitheads that buy into him fully.

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