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TheDarkSaint -> RE: When even the D type doesn't know (4/14/2012 3:08:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


So, this thread is about dissolving relationships.  Releasing your s type or your experience as the s type who has been released.  Are you good at it?  Do you suck at it like Me?  Have you ever come to the conclusion that in a long term D/s dynamic, that maybe release can't happen right away?



I'm terrible at it.. *sigh*

Yes I'm the Dom. Tough as nails, A hard case. But a big part of being a Don for me is the watching out for and protecting.

I've been in situations where I had decided the relationship needed to end. But just kept going with, while all the time thinking just how I was going to go about ending it.. For weeks or longer.

My particular failing is when I feel there's a good chance that the sub/slave will take the parting as if they have been less than adequate /a failure. And that is just not the case. It's just that we've gotten to a point where I've realized that continuing the relationship is going to be detrimental to one or both of us.

I seem to spend forever trying to figure out a way to end the relationship and still impart the knowledge that it WAS good.. Just not any more..

*edited to correct horrific spelling*




AislynLass -> RE: When even the D type doesn't know (4/14/2012 7:02:42 PM)

This is thread is making me think of the song, Somebody I Used to Know by Gotye. Listen to the whole song for the lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY




msub4real -> RE: When even the D type doesn't know (4/15/2012 12:13:50 PM)

I think sometimes people are going about relationships for the drama of each or any part of a relationship, like when you first get together, or when you wrap up in one, or have troubles with one, or end one. The drama provides a path for emotional growth or else it can be a comfortable hiding place you're used to from past problems. The difference is, when it's not about the drama it's about actually being with the other person in the present moment mostly, with some consideration of the context that the relationship provides for that being together. So what I'm getting to is, if ending a relationship is hard, it could be because of normal feelings of sadness upon parting ways, but it could also be that having an episode of great drama is what the person wants. It can be that all the relationship was from the beginning was a way to go from one gut wrenching or mind blowing emotion to the next.

There is no caring and nurturing way to kick someone out of your life, so if your instincts are oriented towards keeping and maintaining relationships you will be hard pressed to end one on good terms. As the Dominant you make a decision and say how things will be, and then the chips fall where they may. Slam the door, lock it.




NuevaVida -> RE: When even the D type doesn't know (4/16/2012 6:30:07 AM)

I've been offline for a few, so I haven't seen clip's post. But I'll respond based on the OP here.

First, my very best to you both, sincerely.

I can tell you, from being the recipient of how *not* to release somebody, Des is correct. I agree with everything she wrote. As an internally enslaved slave, I can tell you what would have been easier (um, less excruciating may be a better way of putting it) would have been if the following had happened:

* A clear and compassionate understanding of why - the full and complete truth (not that everyone always knows this)

* To be allowed as much dialogue as possible, yet for a certain period of time only. There does need to be a cut-off point.

* No more directives. Yes, the heart might remain enslaved for awhile, but continued directives - even done with the best of intention - add confusion and grief, and prolong the healing that is very necessary right now.

* After that cut-off point mentioned above, no contact for awhile. Checking in to see how he's doing, even without offering directives, keeps the slave tied and bound, emotionally, to the *former* owner. It is awesome you still feel a sense of responsibility for him. And totally understandable. But, speaking for myself, anyway, the only way I was able to really step forward on my own and get control back over my life, was to do so on my own, and with the support of others (others not including him). When a friend first suggested I go 3 months without contact and then assess how I felt, I literally panicked and thought there was no way I could do that. Unfortunately, several months later when my heart was still screaming inside, I realized I needed to do that, and that I had to be the strong one to make - and stick to - that decision. I've seen too many released slaves unable to let go and find peace because they were still connected to their ex's. There really is something to be said for ripping off the bandage, as opposed to a slow peel.

* As Des said, at this point it's up to him to move forward, with whatever support system he has. Yes, IE can be a bitch when the relationship ends. It's the price we pay for enjoying it while we're in it. I know for me, I have doubts I'll allow that for myself again, even in my current relationship.

* To the one being released - a year without another relationship was extremely helpful to me. A clear mind and the self awareness that comes from stepping my way forward on my own was more valuable than I can express.

As for "whining" - I fail to see how a topic like this is whining. I think it's good for anyone in or considering an M/s relationship, to understand what happens when the relationship ends, and discussing healthy and constructive ways of doing so is a good thing. If only my ex had considered this, I might not have felt like my entire world had been abruptly pulled out from under my feet.

My very best to you both.




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