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Owner59 -> This is wrong. (4/12/2012 9:00:19 PM)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-04-12/ann-romney-hilary-rosen-work/54235706/1 Hilary Rosen says Ann Romney never worked 'day in her life' While I don`t agree Ann Romney had very tough choices to make,she did make her`s and that,should be respected. While I consider myself a feminist,this is a step to far.....and not what feminism is about. Ms. Rosen should be spanked and apologize and all democrats should reject her dig as unwelcome and untrue. "Wednesday night on CNN, Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen said Romney, who raised five now-grown sons, had "never worked a day in her life." Mitt Romney had said earlier that his wife had relayed to him the economic concerns of women around the country. Rosen's comment reignited a mom-culture war that dates back to Hillary Rodham Clinton's 1992 remark that instead of working as a lawyer, she "could have stayed home and baked cookies." It convulsed the political Twitterverse — both Rosen and Ann Romney were trending topics on the social-networking site — and cable television networks"

TheHeretic -> RE: This is wrong. (4/12/2012 9:18:32 PM)
[sm=alarm.gif]General Alert! [sm=alarm.gif] All Hands, Man Your Spin Stations Oh yes. The contempt of women who say they want women to be free to choose, for women who don't make the choices they approve of, has slipped into the daylight again. We can't have that "war against women," theme split along that nasty old divide, now can we?

Owner59 -> RE: This is wrong. (4/12/2012 9:41:46 PM)
Well,the GOP war against woman`s rights, is well documented. Sen. Lisa Murkowski...........3rd republican to admit to and acknowledge it. "Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) spoke out forcefully in favor of reproductive rights on Wednesday in Homer, Alaska, as many in her party have sought to restrict them. "It makes no sense to make this attack on women," she said on KBBI AM 890 Public Radio's Coffee Table program, according to the Homer News. "If you don't feel this is an attack, you need to go home and talk to your wife and your daughters." She also said that she would continue to support funding for Planned Parenthood, adding that the courts have affirmed a legal right to an abortion and she stands by that." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/lisa-murkowski-war-on-women_n_1406923.html By the time you get past denial,the rest of the world will have moved on and thrown your party`s backward ways under the bus where they belong. Would it look bad if we enjoyed watching it happen?[:D]

Edwynn -> RE: This is wrong. (4/12/2012 11:01:56 PM)
When you read the whole quote you can see that Rosen was not intentionally or specifically 'attacking' stay at home moms, as such, she was very ineptly trying to say that Ann Romney had no clue about economic concerns because she never had a paying job. "But he doesn't connect on that issue either. What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, 'Well, you know my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues and when I listen to my wife that's what I'm hearing.' Guess what? His wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and why do we worry about their future. [...] He just seems so old-fashioned when it comes to women and I think that comes across and I think that that's going to hurt him over the long term. He just doesn't really see us as equal." What strikes me far more than any inadvertent dig at stay home moms is Rosen's all around cluelessness as to think stay home moms don't deal with "how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and why do we worry about their future." Right. I'm sure the moms who raise kids at home don't know about the economic issues that women in this country face. What a dolt! As bad as that is, she also makes the presumption that people who don't get a paycheck therefor don't read the papers or magazines and aren't aware of what goes on in the world or what the issues are or are not able to understand them. Apparently a stay home moms' education, regardless how advanced, is negated by raising kids at home, which turns her brain to mush. What a flaming idiot. She is called a 'strategist? Yeah, excellent strategy that commentary was.

Edwynn -> RE: This is wrong. (4/12/2012 11:11:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic [sm=alarm.gif] All Hands, Man Your Spin Stations Indeed! Here's the first one, and right up your alley, too: (From the link in the OP) President Obama, first lady Michelle Obama and Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz all condemned Rosen's remark. Even so, Rep. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., held the White House responsible, saying she doubted Rosen was "freelancing.""Clearly they're using surrogate women, including Hilary Rosen, who is a paid spokesperson, to deliver messages about Republicans that the president does not want to deliver himself for fear of the backlash," Lummis said.

SoftBonds -> RE: This is wrong. (4/12/2012 11:51:02 PM)
Yeah, it was a moronic remark too. What she should have said is "I doubt Ann Romney has had many economic worries since marrying Mitt..." and left it at that. I mean, for her to talk about all her economic worries, while married to a multimillionaire and heir... It is as silly as asking an all male panel for advice on birth control.

MrRodgers -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 12:12:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn What strikes me far more than any inadvertent dig at stay home moms is Rosen's all around cluelessness as to think stay home moms don't deal with "how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and why do we worry about their future." Right. I'm sure the moms who raise kids at home don't know about the economic issues that women in this country face. Not even a nice try. Rosen is just extremely inarticulate. I think I might be able to repair her point. Ann Romney never had to worry about how to PAY to feed her kids, never had to worry about how to PAY her bills, never had or has to worry about her kids financial security and how they were going to be able to PAY for life. Most problems in life for most people are by far...money problems. NOT for Ann and her kids. Rich people have problems, they just DON'T have...money problems. Ann Romney doesn't have a clue about the economics of the poor or what poor moms go through like which Cadillac to drive them to soccer or which 5 star rest. to go eat at tonight. Get a grip.

SoftBonds -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 12:29:46 AM)
"Ugh, we are out of Caviar!" "The Chauffeur says the Rolls Royce is out of gas!" "I can't decide which college to donate money to so that a building will be named after me!" The sort of "real world," problems Ann Romney deals with all the time... Shame on any Dem for saying she is out of touch...

Edwynn -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 3:30:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Ann Romney never had to worry about how to PAY to feed her kids, never had to worry about how to PAY her bills, never had or has to worry about her kids financial security and how they were going to be able to PAY for life. Most problems in life for most people are by far...money problems. NOT for Ann and her kids. And this differs from Hilary Rosen, how? Whether having a job (H. Rosen) or not having a job (A. Romney), when household income is sufficiently high, as is the case with both women, there is not the worry how to PAY for the house, kids, car, whatever. And Rosen was long after having any (well paying) job worries long before she adopted her kids. quote: Rich people have problems, they just DON'T have...money problems. Ann Romney doesn't have a clue about the economics of the poor or what poor moms go through like which Cadillac to drive them to soccer or which 5 star rest. to go eat at tonight. And Hilary Rosen, who has had a high paying high profile job her whole career (incl. 5 yrs, as pres. then CEO of RIAA), does have a clue about the economics of the poor or what poor moms go through? Through her personal experience right? No question, Ann Romney had a lot more funds at hand than Rosen, but the latter had more than sufficient income to be well above concern or worry about any financial aspect of raising her kids. Aside from that, did it ever occur to you or Rosen that lots of high profile Democrats from either politics or business have very high incomes, no doubt at least a few stay home moms in that group? Does that high income which prevents personal experience in raising kids with a low income disqualify them as having anything to say about the matter? Just more typical Democrat BS about Republicans being the only rich people, that all rich people are inherently greedy and uncaring, that a person with one experience has no clue about or capacity for insight into any other experience ... The nonsense of simpletons. No wonder I despise having to vote in this era. No wonder I despise political anything, but especially the completely and utterly ridiculous crap from 'strategists' of both parties.

papassion -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 6:59:35 AM)
Ann Romney doesn't understand the economic needs of the poor because she is rich? By the same logic, rich kids who went to prestegious universitys' and are now professors teaching in a college. Constantly surrounded by Achievers (most college students are achievers) Are you saying they have no concept of poor people and poor people's problems? Damm, from some of the socialistic drivel comming from college professors, mayby you're correct.

OsideGirl -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 7:23:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn When you read the whole quote you can see that Rosen was not intentionally or specifically 'attacking' stay at home moms, as such, she was very ineptly trying to say that Ann Romney had no clue about economic concerns because she never had a paying job. I'll agree that she probably has no clue about what I'm looking for out of my job/employer, because she's never held a job a day in her life. That doesn't mean she doesn't understand economics.

thishereboi -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 7:53:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic [sm=alarm.gif]General Alert! [sm=alarm.gif] All Hands, Man Your Spin Stations Oh yes. The contempt of women who say they want women to be free to choose, for women who don't make the choices they approve of, has slipped into the daylight again. We can't have that "war against women," theme split along that nasty old divide, now can we? I am just glad she is a democrat. This way we won't have a dozen threads on how her apology wasn't good enough.

Owner59 -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 8:51:15 AM)
Can`t seem to have a thought on topic? Sorry bout`that. Thanks to the normal folks who did stay on topic. Rossen has good points but said them poorly. The point IMO was that Ann Romeny isn`t your typical American stay at home mom. Her choices and opportunities were were vastly greater than the average America.Hard scrabble stories of woe hardship are NOT the narratives of Mrs. Romney. All the dems have to do is wait for the Romneys to make such claims and then nail them. Ridiculing Mrs. Romeny or anyone for not having to work, is a step to far

thishereboi -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 9:04:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Can`t seem to have a thought on topic? Sorry bout`that. Thanks to the normal folks who did stay on topic. Rossen has good points but said them poorly. The point IMO was that Ann Romeny isn`t your typical American stay at home mom. Her choices and opportunities were were vastly greater than the average America.Hard scrabble stories of woe hardship are NOT the narratives of Mrs. Romney. All the dems have to do is wait for the Romneys to make such claims and then nail them. Ridiculing Mrs. Romeny or anyone for not having to work, is a step to far That was my thought on the subject, but if you need more.... I think if this had been a republican you would have been all over it, talking about what an evil bitch she is and how it proves that the repubs are waging a war on women. Because she is on the left, you will make jokes, laugh it off and move on.

Owner59 -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 9:12:53 AM)
Bitter bitter bitter...... and so wrong. As I said.....with sincerity......it`s wrong for anyone to say this about anyone else. Take a breath......read.....comprehend.....then comment......on the topic.....

Aylee -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 4:03:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn No question, Ann Romney had a lot more funds at hand than Rosen, but the latter had more than sufficient income to be well above concern or worry about any financial aspect of raising her kids. Married to Mitt, having their first child while undergrads in college (1970) and living in a basement apartment. Yep. Nothing to worry about in that scenario.

Edwynn -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 5:03:23 PM)
Though they chose that apartment due to proximity to campus and did not live a cushy life as students, her father was president of Jered Industries and his father was an 8 yr. CEO of American Motors Corp. and three term governor of Mich. I'm not sure that anything of genuine financial worry would have come into it. Enough worry from raising a baby while going to school, though. Still doesn't mean that Hilary Rosen isn't a class F putz.

TheHeretic -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 6:53:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Still doesn't mean that Hilary Rosen isn't a class F putz. Accidentally speaking the truth in public, of the contempt the Democrats have for women who choose motherhood, when they are trying so very hard to get those votes? That's a class A putz.

Owner59 -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 7:12:24 PM)
Actually most liberals are live and let live types..... Keep the gov. and/or the moral elitists out of our bedrooms,churches and private lives.... And help those in need.... Kinda the opposite of cons..... I don`t see any of the "outraged" cons giving us other examples of this type of extreme comment from democratic leaders. Cuz there aren`t many,if at all.The attacks on women and women`s rights/privacy by the GOP has far to many examples to mention.The record of contemp...... speaks for it`self. All things being equal yada yada....the biggest difference between democrats and republicans is not that both don`t have fuck ups. Anyone or any party can do/say fucked up(the cons are just making it an art form recently)shit. The biggest difference between the two parties............. is how they handle the fuck-ups. I don`t think what Hillary Clinton said all those years ago.......that made cons mouth-breath and pee their pants.....was all that bad. She made her choices too and I`m kinda glad she did.I`m looking forward to voting for her in '16'[:D]

Edwynn -> RE: This is wrong. (4/13/2012 7:31:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Accidentally speaking the truth in public, of the contempt the Democrats have for women who choose motherhood, when they are trying so very hard to get those votes? That's a class A putz. No, I wasn't accidentally stating anything, it was clearly intentional, and nothing to do with your muddle-headed primitive and pitiful attempt at psychological reinterpretation. The only accident is the accident of birth that produced the simpleton who mistakes clownishness for cleverness.

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