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LadyPact -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 6:38:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subbyinlosangele
I'd say "forced bi," generally, is nothing more than a term for roleplaying. The sub pretends he doesn't want to be with a man because the pretending gives him sexual pleasure. And some women like the idea of a man doing stuff he pretends he doesn't want to do. But it's all semantics -- obviously, in this scenario, the man really wants to suck a cock. It's on par with a man who is doing housework and purposefully breaks a glass to get "punished" -- even though it's really a reward he seeks rather than punishment.

I can promise you that is not universally true.




OsideGirl -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 6:48:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tsatske


I think this is what it is with the forced bi guys. It's not really force - most of them seem to want it a whole lot more than I want to be topped by a woman, for example.


I'm still looking for a guy that will force me to get pedicures while eating chocolates and drinking wine.




BurntKitty -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 6:57:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: tsatske


I think this is what it is with the forced bi guys. It's not really force - most of them seem to want it a whole lot more than I want to be topped by a woman, for example.


I'm still looking for a guy that will force me to get pedicures while eating chocolates and drinking wine.



oooh, I like that idea too!!!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 7:04:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BurntKitty


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


I'm still looking for a guy that will force me to get pedicures while eating chocolates and drinking wine.



oooh, I like that idea too!!!


+1. Hell, I'd even switch for that...yanno, 'take one for the team'. [8D]




BurntKitty -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 7:28:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt


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ORIGINAL: BurntKitty


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


I'm still looking for a guy that will force me to get pedicures while eating chocolates and drinking wine.



oooh, I like that idea too!!!


+1. Hell, I'd even switch for that...yanno, 'take one for the team'. [8D]


OK, that makes 3 of us. Anyone else up for forced pedicures, chocolates & wine?




Marini -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 7:30:36 PM)

There are sooooooooooooooo many activities that I would love my slave to be forced to do: here is the very, very, short list:

slave could be forced, to pay for my online shopping spree's.
slave could be forced ,to take me around the world, at least all of North America.
slave could be forced, to make me stop working, because I know the slave
wants to take care of me, so that I have the TIME to force him to do things.
[:D]

slave could be forced, to clean this house, and cook great meals.
slave could be forced, to maintain my car.

Here is the big one!
slave could be forced,to spend all night between my legs giving me oral pleasures
slave could even be forced to NOT want to be with another man.

I have a new fetish, it's called, forced straight.

Peace




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 7:42:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini

There are sooooooooooooooo many activities that I would love my slave to be forced to do: here is the very, very, short list:

slave could even be forced to NOT want to be with another man.

I have a new fetish, it's called, forced straight.

Peace


Bwaaaahahahahaha!! EXCELLENT!
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OttersSwim -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 8:16:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: tsatske


I think this is what it is with the forced bi guys. It's not really force - most of them seem to want it a whole lot more than I want to be topped by a woman, for example.


I'm still looking for a guy that will force me to get pedicures while eating chocolates and drinking wine.



I think it was PoliteSub who coined "Forced Luxury Cruises" and "Forced Italian Sports Car Buying" [;)]




LadyConstanze -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 8:38:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim


I think it was PoliteSub who coined "Forced Luxury Cruises" and "Forced Italian Sports Car Buying" [;)]



Forgot the name, but rochsomething had this thing going with getting those forced BJs from Playboy bunnies while being forced to watch sports, he said it was pretty dreadful but he suffered through it...




bloomswell -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/17/2012 10:04:49 PM)

As a bisexual chap from way back I find it hot to be alone with a guy but even hotter to be with a male while a female is calling the shots. It really feels like a different thing altogether. I understand why a male without gay (or bi) experience would like a female to be there for his first time. Someone to make it more fun and spicy and to, in a sense, be a chaperone.
Of course it's only roleplay forced fantasy play and not real but isn't that what makes it all the more delicious?
I suggest that anyone wanting this kind of very hot activity who can't find a willing playmate via bdsm or swingers personals makes an arrangement with a Prodomme.





CONTROLARTIST -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 10:40:16 AM)

If you are a slave, then you don't make any choices regarding your sexuality. As a Mistress, I want anything related to your sexuality and how it is to be used to my benefit to occur in my presence, and you will not have control over any aspect of it whatsoever. It's okay to be bisexual. Just stop trying to convince us that you were not already before you showed up at Collar Me.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 11:52:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bloomswell


I suggest that anyone wanting this kind of very hot activity who can't find a willing playmate via bdsm or swingers personals makes an arrangement with a Prodomme.




I'd be surprised if they'd do it, could be considered pandering and might end the domme in a lot of trouble...




billybobsub -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 12:09:11 PM)

I can not believe this link is still being read. How can someone force you to do something when you want them to force you?????? it makes so sense at all. Sounds like a really bad excuse for wanting to have sex with the same gender but pretending there is no choice!




LaTigresse -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 12:11:23 PM)

The thread continues because too many dumbass men are running around hoping that there are dumbass women buying into the whole thing.

"Oh boy oh boy, I really want to suck a dick but I don't want to come right out and admit it so if I can find a woman to 'make me' it's all cool."




PrincessDonna11 -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 12:13:12 PM)

Ditto I was shocked to log on today and see it was still here! Wow there are some knuckleheads out there that arent trained and have WAAAY too much time on their hands.




LaTigresse -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 12:15:10 PM)

I have a very strong hunch most of them couldn't be 'trained'.

The only thing they are interested in serving are their dicks and the fantasies that get their dicks hard.




PeonForHer -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 1:29:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I'd be surprised if they'd do it, could be considered pandering and might end the domme in a lot of trouble...


Now, now. [;)]




bloomswell -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 2:28:50 PM)

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"Oh boy oh boy, I really want to suck a dick but I don't want to come right out and admit it so if I can find a woman to 'make me' it's all cool."


I think it's more like , Oh boy oh boy, I really want to suck a dick and have a woman tease me cruelly while I'm doing it.'
Quite simply it's good fun. A 'witness' can make the activity 100 times more intense. A lot of it is playing on the taboo that men have of gay encounters. Its highlighting the shame. Obviously there should be no real shame but many of brought up the old days were feel it was wrong to to do gay stuff. In this kind of play the female can give the male a hard time re his sexuality.

If it's not your kink, fair enough. No point in bagging kinks on a kink board.

I mentioned Prodommes as I often see it as an option on their menus.




LadyPact -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 3:48:44 PM)

I think the thread might be continuing because for some of us, it's a legitimate kink and a way to see just how far authority can control a person in a dynamic.  Who knows?  Maybe folks are still reading it because they are noticing the difference in the genders on this one.  No male Dom ever comes on these boards, discussing the authority that he has over his female s type that she is hetero flexible if he chooses, and comments from the forum don't start arguing about how she must have really wanted to do it all along.  That female s type must have really wanted to be with another woman and it can't possibly be the fact that the person in charge had that kind of authority.

Granted, the OP has himself a neat little kink fantasy.  Just for fun, let's say that he runs across a chick that really enjoys watching m/m cock sucking.  Maybe he's just scared or hesitant.  He might even just need someone to make sure he goes through with it because he can't follow through on his own.  Might even want to make that leap to being bi, but needs that extra push.  Any of these are good.  The chick knows that she's getting her live cock sucking show sooner or later.

At the same time, there might just be male submissives out there who feel completely differently about the idea of cock sucking.  What happens when he meets the same chick?  Is there any possibility that over the years, he gets to the point where the activity goes from hard limit, to soft limit, to a potential possibility, to something he is willing to do because it is what he was told?

I don't know.  I would think if somebody ran across a chick who really liked watching, that might be something that came up from time to time.  If she had herself someone who had his own ideas on the subject, she might be able to figure that out.  Even better, if the idea excited him for his own desires, she'd capitalize on that and get what she wants out of the deal a whole lot faster.  That way, she wouldn't have to wait until she gained that level of authority over him and his sexuality.

Nah.  That couldn't possibly be it.




PeonForHer -> RE: Forced by to slave for Mistress (4/18/2012 4:16:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think the thread might be continuing because for some of us, it's a legitimate kink and a way to see just how far authority can control a person in a dynamic.  Who knows?  Maybe folks are still reading it because they are noticing the difference in the genders on this one.  No male Dom ever comes on these boards, discussing the authority that he has over his female s type that she is hetero flexible if he chooses, and comments from the forum don't start arguing about how she must have really wanted to do it all along.  That female s type must have really wanted to be with another woman and it can't possibly be the fact that the person in charge had that kind of authority.

Granted, the OP has himself a neat little kink fantasy.  Just for fun, let's say that he runs across a chick that really enjoys watching m/m cock sucking.  Maybe he's just scared or hesitant.  He might even just need someone to make sure he goes through with it because he can't follow through on his own.  Might even want to make that leap to being bi, but needs that extra push.  Any of these are good.  The chick knows that she's getting her live cock sucking show sooner or later.

At the same time, there might just be male submissives out there who feel completely differently about the idea of cock sucking.  What happens when he meets the same chick?  Is there any possibility that over the years, he gets to the point where the activity goes from hard limit, to soft limit, to a potential possibility, to something he is willing to do because it is what he was told?

I don't know.  I would think if somebody ran across a chick who really liked watching, that might be something that came up from time to time.  If she had herself someone who had his own ideas on the subject, she might be able to figure that out.  Even better, if the idea excited him for his own desires, she'd capitalize on that and get what she wants out of the deal a whole lot faster.  That way, she wouldn't have to wait until she gained that level of authority over him and his sexuality.

Nah.  That couldn't possibly be it.



Now, LP, let's face it: it isn't logical to talk about 'forced bi'. This is BDSM we're talking about here - and everything about BDSM just *must* be logical.

Personally, I think it's illogical to try to impose logic on something so illogical as BDSM, or sex, or even love, for that matter. You have far more fun going with 'illogical'. Wish I could do it better myself, frankly, a lot of the time.

As far as I'm concerned a great deal about BDSM is forced-but-not-forced. I'm not sure why people put up with the illogic of that as a general thing, but zero in on the particular illogic of the 'forced-bi' kink. Me, I remember the days when I used to think, '"What's the point in *allowing* yourself to be locked up in order to be flogged? Surely that defeats the object?" OK, I get that now. I just get it that people do something weird in order to get a buzz, that's all. Fine by me.

Of course 'forced bi' is nutty. But isn't that true of most of WIITWD? We make a rational choice to plunge into the depths of unreason, to get what we can out of it. I thought that was the whole point.




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