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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 1:13:58 PM

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University's etc actually doing studies, want to meet face to face and use real information.

I was asked to contribute to one about single mothers and social services.

thanks for sharing your experience. i'm sure you're an expert, and this represents the full spectrum of studies.

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 1:19:43 PM

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oh,.. it tells me a lot about the person that puts that on their profile..

it tells me they are an ijit cuz they likely saw it on someone elses profile and they thought it was a good idea or would actually legally mean anything so like a sheeple/copycat they did the same thing.. I also believe that you give away certain (or all?) legal rights to CM when agreeing to join this site.. I am too lazy to look it up tho to verify the exact wording of what one agrees to, but its there somewhere.. so that makes them a double ijit for not realizing this and/or for not reading the conditions/terms before they agreed to join..

seeing that on someones profile makes me laugh.. I dont bother with people that can't think for themselves..

It isn't people who can't think for themselves, it is people who think they know things they don't. The reality is that this site can do whatever they want with pictures you post here as per the TOS we all agreed with when we signed up. You don't get to say, "I want to join this site, but you can't use anything I post here."

So to the brilliant legal mind of Karmastic, dude, you should have read the TOS when you signed up. Your little "know it all" blurb, doesn't prevent the site from using your photo or what I'm sure you believe are absolute pearls of wisdom for any purpose they deem fit.

The TOS also addresses the issue of others using your photos, text, etc. to cover what people obviously (and erroneously) believe they need to do. Everything you say on this site is searchable. Your photos are searchable.

And in the end, the reality is that really, people aren't interested in the words in your profile, because as much as you (general you) might believe you are the next Shakespeare, you aren't. No one is interested in your picture either. Now that doesn't apply to the Art and Creative Writing portion of CollarChat, that is a whole different issue. Your profile is NOT intellectual property. It isn't a literary or artistic work of art, which would be the only part of the "intellectual profile" definition that would apply here.

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 1:22:19 PM

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Ok, I just saw this on a profile and I gotta know, after seeing it so many times. Does anyone really think someone else gives that much of a damn about what they put in their profile?

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oh,.. it tells me a lot about the person that puts that on their profile..

it tells me they are an ijit cuz they likely saw it on someone elses profile and they thought it was a good idea or would actually legally mean anything so like a sheeple/copycat they did the same thing.. I also believe that you give away certain (or all?) legal rights to CM when agreeing to join this site.. I am too lazy to look it up tho to verify the exact wording of what one agrees to, but its there somewhere.. so that makes them a double ijit for not realizing this and/or for not reading the conditions/terms before they agreed to join..

seeing that on someones profile makes me laugh.. I dont bother with people that can't think for themselves..

you made a bunch of assumptions about how you think someone on the internet that you don't know thinks, based on erroneous legal conclusions.

that is all.

and you are assuming that i give a dam what you think about what i think..

i did not assume anything. you just did though - again.

i can only observe that you posted what you think other people on the internet think (in yet again a really really negative way). and that you did this because you care for others to know what you think. and that you cared enough of what i think to reply to me.

that is all.

the OP asked for opinions, i gave mine. The fact is you and everyone agreed to the conditions Collar Me set up and in doing so you voluntarily gave up any legal rights you may have had to Collar Me, its their rights now, no longer yours or any other posters... people are free to agree or disagree with me, I would like to see you try to win in court and how far that gets ya..
the fact that you said you have a similar warning on yours.. well,.. nuff said..

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 2:05:13 PM

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oh,.. it tells me a lot about the person that puts that on their profile..

it tells me they are an ijit cuz they likely saw it on someone elses profile and they thought it was a good idea or would actually legally mean anything so like a sheeple/copycat they did the same thing.. I also believe that you give away certain (or all?) legal rights to CM when agreeing to join this site.. I am too lazy to look it up tho to verify the exact wording of what one agrees to, but its there somewhere.. so that makes them a double ijit for not realizing this and/or for not reading the conditions/terms before they agreed to join..

seeing that on someones profile makes me laugh.. I dont bother with people that can't think for themselves..

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It isn't people who can't think for themselves, it is people who think they know things they don't. The reality is that this site can do whatever they want with pictures you post here as per the TOS we all agreed with when we signed up. You don't get to say, "I want to join this site, but you can't use anything I post here."

So to the brilliant legal mind of Karmastic, dude, you should have read the TOS when you signed up. Your little "know it all" blurb, doesn't prevent the site from using your photo or what I'm sure you believe are absolute pearls of wisdom for any purpose they deem fit.

I never said it was. Why can't people read words, rather than make up what they think people said and then go off based on that misunderstanding.

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The TOS also addresses the issue of others using your photos, text, etc. to cover what people obviously (and erroneously) believe they need to do. Everything you say on this site is searchable. Your photos are searchable.

I never said it wasn't. see prior comment

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And in the end, the reality is that really, people aren't interested in the words in your profile, because as much as you (general you) might believe you are the next Shakespeare, you aren't.

I never said it or I was. see prior comment

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No one is interested in your picture either.

I never said they were. see prior comment

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Now that doesn't apply to the Art and Creative Writing portion of CollarChat, that is a whole different issue. Your profile is NOT intellectual property. It isn't a literary or artistic work of art, which would be the only part of the "intellectual profile" definition that would apply here.

I never said it was. see prior comment

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 2:13:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Ok, I just saw this on a profile and I gotta know, after seeing it so many times. Does anyone really think someone else gives that much of a damn about what they put in their profile?

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**Warning: Any institutions or individuals using this site or any of its associated sites for studies or projects --

oh,.. it tells me a lot about the person that puts that on their profile..

it tells me they are an ijit cuz they likely saw it on someone elses profile and they thought it was a good idea or would actually legally mean anything so like a sheeple/copycat they did the same thing.. I also believe that you give away certain (or all?) legal rights to CM when agreeing to join this site.. I am too lazy to look it up tho to verify the exact wording of what one agrees to, but its there somewhere.. so that makes them a double ijit for not realizing this and/or for not reading the conditions/terms before they agreed to join..

seeing that on someones profile makes me laugh.. I dont bother with people that can't think for themselves..

you made a bunch of assumptions about how you think someone on the internet that you don't know thinks, based on erroneous legal conclusions.

that is all.

and you are assuming that i give a dam what you think about what i think..

i did not assume anything. you just did though - again.

i can only observe that you posted what you think other people on the internet think (in yet again a really really negative way). and that you did this because you care for others to know what you think. and that you cared enough of what i think to reply to me.

that is all.

the OP asked for opinions, i gave mine. The fact is you and everyone agreed to the conditions Collar Me set up and in doing so you voluntarily gave up any legal rights you may have had to Collar Me, its their rights now, no longer yours or any other posters... people are free to agree or disagree with me, I would like to see you try to win in court and how far that gets ya..
the fact that you said you have a similar warning on yours.. well,.. nuff said..

so now, you would like to ignore my point, that you assume you know the motives of people you don't know on the internet, and are perfectly fine taking a nasty stance against them without really understanding them.

your post here further shows that, since i haven't even said anything about the tou, or my contractual relationship with CM, or what i agreed to with them.

yes, it's fine to disagree. being challenged by those who disagree with u is a great way to learn and grow (for me, anyway). but for christ's sake, at least come within a barn's throw of being correct about what someone believes or said before you go off on emily litella like rants about something no one said.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 2:40:52 PM

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Case in point - information and pics of users here from about 3/4 of a year ago- (Just google College Chancellor Sex Dungeon) & (there are several threads about it in the section: Alternative Lifestyles in the News) of The College Chancellor who posted pics of him and his slave and when it was found out - These very pics of himself and his slave and his profile content were all over articles that were published on line as well as off. Now if he had put the disclaimer in his profile - would this of stopped anyone from spreading that content? Or is journalism immune from this?

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someone doing research for a term paper, or anyone else doing any kind of research cannot ethically converse with me
I don't see how that is the case, since the warning doesn't mention conversing with you in any way, and your profile is published and therefore legitimate source material for research purposes.

I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't make any sense.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 2:52:45 PM

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Case in point - information and pics of users here from about 3/4 of a year ago- (Just google College Chancellor Sex Dungeon) & (there are several threads about it in the section: Alternative Lifestyles in the News) of The College Chancellor who posted pics of him and his slave and when it was found out - These very pics of himself and his slave and his profile content were all over articles that were published on line as well as off. Now if he had put the disclaimer in his profile - would this of stopped anyone from spreading that content? Or is journalism immune from this?

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someone doing research for a term paper, or anyone else doing any kind of research cannot ethically converse with me
I don't see how that is the case, since the warning doesn't mention conversing with you in any way, and your profile is published and therefore legitimate source material for research purposes.

I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't make any sense.

no, using his pics fell under several exceptions, called "fair use". in this case, he was a public figure already, and, the story and pics were newsworthy.

NOT to be confused with CM's TOU, which is a contract between members and CM, and has nada to do with interactions between anyone but CM and members.

i think i also have to remind those who put words in my mouth (sorry, not referring to you) - that my disclaimer is nothing like the one in this thread. it's only half serious, and protects me from researchers contacting me...period.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 3:06:00 PM

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I had to go read your disclaimer, and, it might as well be the same as the one in my OP. It does not protect you from anything.

I can absolutely see using a disclaimer on sites dedicated to science or something. Hell, when I Googled, trying to find out if the warnings meant anything, I found plenty of sites, such as colleges and medical research places, who stated that you could use the site for studying, but not copy anything on them for distribution. That makes sense.

TO ME, putting something like that on a profile here, on Facebook, on Yahoo, on eharmony, on Fet, on I wanna save the pandas, whatever your preference, it screams "I think someone would really give a fuck about my wonderful, oh so smarter than others, thoughts that I have blessed the world with here.

When I see it, it screams narcissist, and makes me run for the hills.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 3:31:41 PM

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I had to go read your disclaimer, and, it might as well be the same as the one in my OP. It does not protect you from anything.

I can absolutely see using a disclaimer on sites dedicated to science or something. Hell, when I Googled, trying to find out if the warnings meant anything, I found plenty of sites, such as colleges and medical research places, who stated that you could use the site for studying, but not copy anything on them for distribution. That makes sense.

TO ME, putting something like that on a profile here, on Facebook, on Yahoo, on eharmony, on Fet, on I wanna save the pandas, whatever your preference, it screams "I think someone would really give a fuck about my wonderful, oh so smarter than others, thoughts that I have blessed the world with here.

When I see it, it screams narcissist, and makes me run for the hills.

thank you very much for actually reading it b4 giving your opinion on it. i appreciate the feedback, totally disagree, but will still think about it.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 3:49:51 PM

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Not understanding something - how was he a public figure?

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Case in point - information and pics of users here from about 3/4 of a year ago- (Just google College Chancellor Sex Dungeon) & (there are several threads about it in the section: Alternative Lifestyles in the News) of The College Chancellor who posted pics of him and his slave and when it was found out - These very pics of himself and his slave and his profile content were all over articles that were published on line as well as off. Now if he had put the disclaimer in his profile - would this of stopped anyone from spreading that content? Or is journalism immune from this?

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someone doing research for a term paper, or anyone else doing any kind of research cannot ethically converse with me
I don't see how that is the case, since the warning doesn't mention conversing with you in any way, and your profile is published and therefore legitimate source material for research purposes.

I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't make any sense.

no, using his pics fell under several exceptions, called "fair use". in this case, he was a public figure already, and, the story and pics were newsworthy.

NOT to be confused with CM's TOU, which is a contract between members and CM, and has nada to do with interactions between anyone but CM and members.

i think i also have to remind those who put words in my mouth (sorry, not referring to you) - that my disclaimer is nothing like the one in this thread. it's only half serious, and protects me from researchers contacting me...period.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 4:35:06 PM

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i think i also have to remind those who put words in my mouth (sorry, not referring to you) - that my disclaimer is nothing like the one in this thread. it's only half serious, and protects me from researchers contacting me...period.

So I finally wasted a moment of my time to look at your little "disclaimer." You don't get to give or deny people permission to contact you, so as far as it being "legal mumbo jumbo," that would be exactly what it is, in other words, bullshit, no "legal" about it. Trying to pretend you can be put on the equivalent of a "do not call" list, or put a sign on your home saying, "no solicitors," just doesn't make it so.

In the future, I would also suggest that you learn the reality that the term "you" as used in these forums is also representative of "general you" not "you" in particular. It would also be beneficial if you would learn how to properly trim your quotes, but given your predaliction for believing you know fuck all about anything, I'm sure it falls on deaf ears.

Also, the fact that the Chancellor was a public figure means absolutely nothing, regardless of your implication that it did. He was news. Yes, he was news because he was a public figure, but "Joe Blow Attorney," if busted for using his work computer to search for slaves would equally be news and equally open to publication of his PUBLIC profile on this site.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 5:59:19 PM

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Not understanding something - how was he a public figure?

College Chancellor definitely qualifies as a public figure. Many factors, including being appointed or voted to a pseudo public office, supposed to represent student interests and the college, public-facing position, maybe speaks for college, Etc. I've read plenty of cases that allowed it for much less.

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RE: Really? - 4/17/2012 6:06:43 PM

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i think i also have to remind those who put words in my mouth (sorry, not referring to you) - that my disclaimer is nothing like the one in this thread. it's only half serious, and protects me from researchers contacting me...period.

So I finally wasted a moment of my time to look at your little "disclaimer." You don't get to give or deny people permission to contact you, so as far as it being "legal mumbo jumbo," that would be exactly what it is, in other words, bullshit, no "legal" about it. Trying to pretend you can be put on the equivalent of a "do not call" list, or put a sign on your home saying, "no solicitors," just doesn't make it so.

In the future, I would also suggest that you learn the reality that the term "you" as used in these forums is also representative of "general you" not "you" in particular. It would also be beneficial if you would learn how to properly trim your quotes, but given your predaliction for believing you know fuck all about anything, I'm sure it falls on deaf ears.

Also, the fact that the Chancellor was a public figure means absolutely nothing, regardless of your implication that it did. He was news. Yes, he was news because he was a public figure, but "Joe Blow Attorney," if busted for using his work computer to search for slaves would equally be news and equally open to publication of his PUBLIC profile on this site.

oh my - your anger and vitriol towards some guy you don't know on the internet tells me it has less to do with me or anything i said or wrote, and more to do with issues you have. weren't u the one who lied about all the things i supposedly said about caring about protecting my pictures, and all this irrelevant b.s. about the agreement between members and CM, and then ranted based on that?

all i will say is get a refund on your law degree and take care.

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/17/2012 10:00:14 PM

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Ok, I just saw this on a profile and I gotta know, after seeing it so many times. Does anyone really think someone else gives that much of a damn about what they put in their profile?

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edit to change name of thread-whoda thunk there was another called Really?

And your point is?

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RE: Do not use my pics, blah blah blah - 4/18/2012 2:47:51 AM

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Ok, I just saw this on a profile and I gotta know, after seeing it so many times. Does anyone really think someone else gives that much of a damn about what they put in their profile?

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**Warning: Any institutions or individuals using this site or any of its associated sites for studies or projects -- you DO NOT have permission to use any of my profile or pictures in any form or forum both current and future. If you have or do, it will be considered a violation of my privacy and will be subject to legal ramifications. It is recommended that other members post a similar notice to this or you may copy and paste this one.**
edit to change name of thread-whoda thunk there was another called Really?

And your point is?

Right on top of my head, where it has been since the bewbs started saluting the floor!

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RE: Really? - 4/18/2012 11:42:09 PM

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all i will say is get a refund on your law degree and take care.

I would offer the same advice to you.

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RE: Really? - 4/19/2012 3:42:54 AM

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Such an entertaining thread. Especially after looking at the profile of a new forum nutcase who's only photo was a bad photo edit thing of a stuffed teddy bear surrounded by a heart shaped rose 'frame', and seeing the disclaimer this thread is about, on the profile.

It was one of the laughs of my day yesterday.

When I see that disclaimer I think one or both, of two things........pretentious putz, or not very smart. The saddest and most laughable are those that are obviously not very smart and pretentious.

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RE: Really? - 4/19/2012 12:41:44 PM

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Such an entertaining thread. Especially after looking at the profile of a new forum nutcase who's only photo was a bad photo edit thing of a stuffed teddy bear surrounded by a heart shaped rose 'frame', and seeing the disclaimer this thread is about, on the profile.

It was one of the laughs of my day yesterday.

When I see that disclaimer I think one or both, of two things........pretentious putz, or not very smart. The saddest and most laughable are those that are obviously not very smart and pretentious.

thanks, your post was one of my laughs for today

so much baggage and lack of understanding - we can disagree and leave it at that.

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RE: Really? - 4/19/2012 12:44:14 PM

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all i will say is get a refund on your law degree and take care.

I would offer the same advice to you.

and you would also totally leave out the part about you not being honorable or adult enough to admit that you tried to bash me for things i never posted. and when i noted that, you finally read my disclaimer, and then went off on a truly hilarious interwebs rant.

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RE: Really? - 4/19/2012 12:55:41 PM

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Such an entertaining thread. Especially after looking at the profile of a new forum nutcase who's only photo was a bad photo edit thing of a stuffed teddy bear surrounded by a heart shaped rose 'frame', and seeing the disclaimer this thread is about, on the profile.

It was one of the laughs of my day yesterday.

When I see that disclaimer I think one or both, of two things........pretentious putz, or not very smart. The saddest and most laughable are those that are obviously not very smart and pretentious.

thanks, your post was one of my laughs for today

so much baggage and lack of understanding - we can disagree and leave it at that.

I assume you are referring to yourself having baggage and lack of understanding as you do not know me, my mental state, or capacity for understanding in the least.

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