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NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/24/2012 6:32:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

NBMG, do you think you could stop being nice on this thread? It's making me want to get on an aeroplane with a cricket bat, cross the Atlantic, and whack you with it. No offence. :-)

To answer the OP: What I like about about a Domme is her wearing a leotard and having her hair in a ponytail, having just got off a running machine at the gym all sweaty and heave-chested, looking slightly pissed off, and called Susan.

lol I may seem nice here but, when I play, sometimes I'm very very mean. [;)]

NBMG




Lucifyre -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/24/2012 6:35:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl

Lucifyre,

I love your lists!!

NBMG


Thanks :)
It took me awhile to write that one out because I wanted to be as clear as possible when I answered you ;)

Lucifyre




hangemhigh1953 -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/25/2012 2:24:28 PM)

It's hard to say really, because I find that it's impossible to describe the qualities that make a person likeable or dislikeable. Obviously people who treat you as a customer when you very clearly are looking for a relationship are unpleasant, as are people who make the D/s their top and only priority. I also dislike people who equate BDSM with pain play, because I don't like the pain play at all but lots of people (the vast, vast majority in the local scene) think BDSM inherently = hurting people.

Things I like: Being asked out and when women make their move on me.




PeonForHer -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/25/2012 2:37:43 PM)

Seriously:

The one thing that would kill it for me with any Domme, no matter what she looked like, however bright or stupid she was, however balanced or bloody looney she was (and there are a *lot* of looney Dommes around) - is lack of any sense of humour. I can deal with anyone who has humour - loonies included - but I can't deal with anyone who doesn't. I don't know how to connect properly with anyone who has no humour. I've never been able to work out even theoretically how it could be done.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 9:53:50 AM)

Hi NBMG, and thank You for this OP ... [:)]

Which could be sub-titled [;)] "my turn to vent"! [:D]

What annoys me the most, is the number of women, who think they can hang a Domme sign up; and men will immediately open their wallets.

And trust me, i have encountered countless different approaches; some VERY sophisticated ones, too. This, more than anything annoys me. Particularly when i invest time and effort, and it turns into a bait and switch operation.

Now don't get me wrong, i am NOT a frugal, tightwad with a Lady. i take You to nice places, pick up the tab, am a gentleman, and make the effort to relate to You as a Lady and a person. i have even flown to other cities to meet attractive Ladies for dinner, etc. But when someone tries to take advantage, i get annoyed. Really annoyed!

Things i love about Dommes: maturity, self confidence, self esteem, independence, intelligence, sense of humor, as well as the ability to smoothly seduce me into complete submission ... LOL ... although that last point is relatively rare! [:D]

And i am a sucker for open, honest, charming communication and discussion! These can nail me ... everytime!

Have a great day!




Baroana -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 10:51:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Seriously:

The one thing that would kill it for me with any Domme, no matter what she looked like, however bright or stupid she was, however balanced or bloody looney she was (and there are a *lot* of looney Dommes around) - is lack of any sense of humour. I can deal with anyone who has humour - loonies included - but I can't deal with anyone who doesn't. I don't know how to connect properly with anyone who has no humour. I've never been able to work out even theoretically how it could be done.


Humour? Get thee gone, limey.




VerySincere -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 12:49:52 PM)

Yes, I understand your point! ROFL

Here is an example of a reply I just got from POLITELY declining an unsolicited email for "online training" LOL

"ok asshole its your loss white devil you obviously need a lot of training -- jerkazoi"

And she didn't even attempt to write complete sentences! ROFL




LookieNoNookie -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 5:32:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl

Hi all you sub guys. There's a thread right now going on here in Ask a Mistress re: what puts Dommes off about sub guys. I want to ask, what puts you guys off about Dommes? Also, what really appeals to you in Dommes? I can hardly wait to hear the answers. :)

NBMG


Awesome question.

Attention. Love. Care. Consideration.

Offputting?

Reverse the above.




hopelesslyInvo -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 5:36:49 PM)

i can sup up almost everything in terms of what bugs me and what appeals to me by simply saying i like people who are down to earth.

that covers being bugged by the ones who want you to give everything while they give nothing, or next to nothing. which has nothing to do with the dynamic, it has to do with an imbalance in what people have to offer or bring to a relationship; leading often to the feeling of things being one sided or being alone even when you're with someone.

it also covers the highly annoying belief that "calling yourself dominant", or being a certain gender (and i don't care which) brings with it some form of entitlement; whether it's tributes, respect, or anything else.

i hate when confidence crosses the threshold into arrogance. i hate bloated egos and hearing people rant about what they expect and "deserve". it also annoys me when these people complain about not being able to find anyone; if you were special, entitled, or deserved anything, you would assuredly already have it.

financial dommes urk me, but that's for my own reasons. i want them to be interested in the things they can only get from me, not the things they can get from anyone with a job or by getting a job themselves. i generally just tire of materialistic people that don't understand the meaning of the word priceless. if you can't be happy being stranded on an island with me, it's not me or my company you're interested in, so i have no time for it.

i hate insults and profiles/dommes that talk down to you like you're worthless trash, unworthy of their time. it's mostly stupidity on this one... as long as "you" are looking for "us", only the people without common sense won't realize this person actually values what they're looking for, but for some reason can't stand to admit it. at the same time i like being talked down to in a "term of endearment" sort of way. there's something very amusing to me about someone being very respectful and polite to me in every word they speak except for the one they call me.

for example, receiving a message like "good morning boy" will draw my interest and curiosity, but when i get ones like "TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS SHIT, HOW CAN YOU SERVE YOUR GODDESS" the only interest i have is the block button.

nothing really repels me as much as people who seem to live in a fantasy world and roleplay their life instead of living it. i can't tolerate fakes, and by fakes i don't mean that in terms of whether people will or won't do what they say, i mean people who have to put on a show while doing it rather than be themselves. roleplaying a doctor? fine. roleplaying a mistress every time i see you instead of being the one you are? not so fine.

things that appeal to me are modesty, confidence, appreciation, and sincerity. down to earth people that can speak plainly never fail to appeal to me. i want a human element in your personality first, and everything else to follow after that and be connected to it.

and while it's neither a good or bad thing, and just deals with how i respond best, i also tend to prefer when dommes don't get bossy and demanding- barking orders around, but rather ask, say what they want, or simply imply it; leaving problem solving and open ended possibilities as an option. i also like the reminder that it's my choice, and that regardless of what she's asking me to do, the real question is will i do it for her. being bossy in the sense of "come here", "lean back", or "grab me a drink" is fine, but saying "my feet are cold" is all you need to say to get me to look for a way to fix it, which also allows for creativity as well as the ability to show i'm "learning" what she likes. saying "i want/want to do" (something) tends to trigger the sense of purpose response from me, where if someone said "i want to relieve some stress" i'm either going to be offering suggestions based on what i know you like or at the very least be asking what i can do to help. one of my personal favorites, especially when it's pushing limits or at least challenging/difficult to do or stand having done is simply being asked, something along the lines of "would you be willing to do this for me? it'd make me happy". it's great encouragement for willpower, so great that it's almost to the point of manipulation with how hard it becomes to say no, especially if it's whispered into your ear or said a certain way. things like that make you feel important to them, and it's nice to feel like you're doing something so special and appreciated by them, that they allow you to realize they know just how much they're asking of you, that they literally will ask. it feels really great to feel like you came through for them in those times.

i also appreciate silliness and being coy as well. such as if someone where to tell me they had trouble with their math skills and wanted me to help them learn to count to a hundred~

other than that, intelligence and people who like to talk appeal to me a lot. i like quiet moments too, but in my experience those come from knowing someone so well you don't need to say a word.




JeffBC -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 5:41:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: strangedesire
I'm one of those people who sees BDSM as a building block of physical/sexual/emotional intimacy. I dislike people who see it as the transactional satisfaction of urges.

Well stated. That would describe me also.




ElanSubdued -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 6:26:16 PM)

strangedesire,

quote:

I'm one of those people who sees BDSM as a building block of physical/sexual/emotional intimacy.


Ditto.  Me too.  Consequently, it's just another facet of when and how I choose to share intimacy with someone.  It is a turn-off when people bring it on too soon and when people project stereotypical BDSM roles onto me.  For example, if I choose to submit to someone, it is because that person shares and inspires mutual respect and affection, and because the interaction between us is a turn-on for us both.  Sometimes the specific interactions aren't about fetishes, or sex, or even D/s (at least not overtly consciously).  Often they are small things I do for someone (or they do for me) that in every way, whether verbal or not, say "you know what... I think you're fabulous".  In my BDSM world, attributes of friendship, love, and romance are never far from the proverbial whip, and I really don't desire to change that.




ElanSubdued -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 6:33:54 PM)

LookieNoNookie


quote:

NiceButMeanGirl:
(snip) ...what really appeals to you in Dommes?

LookieNoNookie:
Attention.  Love.  Care.  Consideration.

Offputting?

Reverse the above.


Very succinctly stated and a great answer.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion some dominant women have... that they can act like domineering, selfish, bitchy, spoiled jackasses and that this is somehow attractive.  Uh, no.  Really.  Just no.




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (4/28/2012 7:09:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

LookieNoNookie


quote:

NiceButMeanGirl:
(snip) ...what really appeals to you in Dommes?

LookieNoNookie:
Attention.  Love.  Care.  Consideration.

Offputting?

Reverse the above.


Very succinctly stated and a great answer.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion some dominant women have... that they can act like domineering, selfish, bitchy, spoiled jackasses and that this is somehow attractive.  Uh, no.  Really.  Just no.


I really like this. All of it. I'm so glad I'm getting feedback on this thread. :)

NBMG




forcedsensuality -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 7:30:39 AM)

I've only really chatted with prospective dommes online. A couple of them might think i'm a time-waster or scaredy-cat.

Anyway, in my dealings with prospective dommes, a couple of so-called dominant women online have instantly adopted a fairly crude bossy stance, what seems like just plain rudeness. We're just online, negotiating if you will, but these few particular "dominants" adopt a crass, crude, short manner, as though they're already in character (and a fairly Stalinist character at that), as if meeting online as possible first step to something else is the first opportunity to lay down the law. These people do not present as reasonable communicators. It seems like they're trying to bully their way through what's meant to be a neutral negotiation. Frankly, they just seem charmless, humorless, inflexible.

This is just a few would-be dommes i've met online. I've met some charming, sensible, cautious dominant woman too who've been keen to warn me about things, suggest sensible approaches for a newbie, .. their creativity and worldliness comes through.

But i worry about these bossy pushy dommes. There's a supply and demand problem after all. Dommes could be said to have a bargaining advantage; there will always be more keen subbies .. so i worry that these inflexible hardliners who seem to be living the dominant role online even with newbie prospective play-partners new to the internet might still end up striking an unhealthy arrangement with someone who agrees to submit..

As i've said, i've met a range of dominants chatting on the 'net over the years, but these few humourless mean "dominants" with their inflexible "you must agree to this, or else goodbye" approach, people who seem to lack any give-and-take or civility in their internet communications, i do worry that anyone who might actually submit to this person is signing up for someone who just doesn't seem to grasp the whole role-play-is-fun thing, someone who might confuse a creative BDSM relationship with an old fashioned abusive relationship.

(just one example: this crazy idea that "punishments" are exempt from negotiation, that "punishments" should not have safe words. Does anybody really live this way ? How can this be consensual ?)

Put it another way: if dominants advertise any "bottom lines" or "hard limits", they should be very carefully scrutinised. In the non-community black zone of people meeting one-to-one on the internet, who protects the newbie subbie from being bullied or pressured into a position of powerlessness ? As long as subbies outnumber dominants, some disingenuous dominants have too much power at the very point of negotiation where no superiority should be assumed and both parties should theoretically have complete freedom from expectations, everything should be up for discussion, everyone should be reminded very clearly that "dominant" is the role being negotiated, that this is not the time or place for anyone to be acting dominant or indeed anyone assuming they must submit to anything !




LaTigresse -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 7:41:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

LookieNoNookie


quote:

NiceButMeanGirl:
(snip) ...what really appeals to you in Dommes?

LookieNoNookie:
Attention.  Love.  Care.  Consideration.

Offputting?

Reverse the above.


Very succinctly stated and a great answer.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion some dominant women have... that they can act like domineering, selfish, bitchy, spoiled jackasses and that this is somehow attractive.  Uh, no.  Really.  Just no.



I think that is an incorrect assumption of both male and female dominants. We see the dick swinging contests with the men as often, if not more so, as with the women.

Somewhere along the line, some people, got the idea that kindness, courtesy, manners.......were not quality dominant traits. Sucks to be them and it sucks to be the s-types that dig the asshats.




hopelesslyInvo -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 12:26:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

LookieNoNookie


quote:

NiceButMeanGirl:
(snip) ...what really appeals to you in Dommes?

LookieNoNookie:
Attention.  Love.  Care.  Consideration.

Offputting?

Reverse the above.


Very succinctly stated and a great answer.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion some dominant women have... that they can act like domineering, selfish, bitchy, spoiled jackasses and that this is somehow attractive.  Uh, no.  Really.  Just no.



I think that is an incorrect assumption of both male and female dominants. We see the dick swinging contests with the men as often, if not more so, as with the women.

Somewhere along the line, some people, got the idea that kindness, courtesy, manners.......were not quality dominant traits. Sucks to be them and it sucks to be the s-types that dig the asshats.


i wonder how many of those asshats are just playing follow the leader and acting like all the other dommes they see on here or in erotica.

sometimes i feel like it's backwards between the two spectrums. in vanillaville i get lured in to dating what seems to be nice people, and when i finally get attached i so very often find out they weren't nice at all, but just acting the part dictated by social standards. in d/s the people i encounter seem to do the reverse and act like an uncaring asshole, but then that often fades away and they start treating me very decently.

there's honestly a stark contrast in how many decent people i know that are into bdsm as compared to how few decent people i've met that are "normal".




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 12:28:50 PM)

Hopelessly!! Lovely to see you!




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 12:34:09 PM)

I know that I have been "passed over" for not being sufficiently bitchy. Or something like that. I can manage ultracranky when the situation warrants it, but I just don't do MEAN. Or cold, or unkind. Those are not qualities that I want to enhance, even when I really want to MAKE STUPID HURT I can't usually do it.

I was about to say that I don't think too many people really want that sort of nasty in a mate, but then I started thinking about all the lovely people with utterly ghastly spouses that I've met over the years... so I don't know. It's easy to get swept up in the fun bits and not think about the daily life. I tend to go the other way and get stuck in daily life and forget about the fun bits.

The tropes of BDSM porn let nasty people BE nasty and make it seem okay. That line between dominant and domineering gets crossed, the "selfish" pit gets dug deeper, and disaster awaits.




LaTigresse -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 12:56:04 PM)

Indeed.

For ME, that would just be too toxic. I can't be mean, nasty and grumpy all of the time, or even most of the time. Hell, I am nearly always in a very good mood, laughing and joking around. It takes an awful lot to even get me to cranky. Let alone grumpy, or just purely pissed off. I cannot even remember the last time I was really angry.

Life is too short and too fabulous to toxify it.




LadyConstanze -> RE: What Bugs You Re: Dommes & What Do You Like? (5/1/2012 1:03:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kittycake



Things that immediately appeal to me: someone who is well spoken, intelligent, and is curious to get to know me as a person


I'd sign that...

Massive turn off is "Here's my laundry list, you should be happy that I picked you as my personal fetish delivery system" - of course they phrase it slightly differently but that's the gist of far too many mails.




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