tweakabelle
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Desideri Scuri That video is pathetic. You get nothing of context. You don't see the entire incident. You see the end. Did the USBP use excessive force or use force excessively? Those are not the same issue, and it sure looks as if the latter is the case. What led to the altercation? What happened prior to Mr. Hernandez being tased? If you were to see only the final punch in a KO boxing match, it would sure look like one guy dominated the other. But, without seeing the entire event, you may not have any actual idea on how the match was fought. So, what precipitated this encounter? What happened prior to the video? Having his widow talk about the "insensitivity" of the USBP and their not considering that Mr. Hernandez was leaving behind his family, is a lame attempt at emotional influence. Did we watch the same two videos? It's silly to expect videos taken by casual bystanders to tell the complete story, but they do offer us a limited witness account of what happened. I saw: * An arrested person taken individually to the scene of his eventual death; * The person subdued and handcuffed, being sat upon by two BP officers; * Later the same person still on the ground, handcuffed and subdued, surrounded by about a dozen BP officers who were assaulting and Tasering him for no apparent reason; * I heard the cries of help being shouted by the victim as he was being assaulted; * I noted that passers by were so concerned at the events they intervened to try to protect the victim and stop the assault; * I saw two interviews with eye witnesses who both make disturbing allegations in their accounts of what transpired; * I heard an official account of events that seemed to clash significantly with what I saw, to the extent of being directly contradicted at times; * There were numerous credible allegations of abuses and assault made against BP personnel by independent witnesses * A person is dead after being subjected to excessive force by Govt officials. The person who died didn't represent a threat to anyone subsequent to his arrest. His alleged crime was a fairly minor one. There seems to me to be a prima facie case of murder against some unidentified BP guards, or at the very least, some gravely serious questions over their behaviour. It appears that no action is being taken to resolve some of the glaring gaps between the evidence broadcast and the official account. It also appears, on face value, that there is an emerging pattern of similar abuses/incidents involving this BP force and dead Mexicans. No doubt there is a lot more evidence yet to be revealed. But, on the basis of the evidence at hand, there appears to be serious cause for concern and some people have a lot of explaining to do.
< Message edited by tweakabelle -- 4/24/2012 1:31:52 AM >
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