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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 11:51:25 AM   
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Oh, odd question on a totally unrelated subject. About 15 years ago (and yes, I've been in the Life for longer than legally 'acceptable'), there was a motto I was rather fond of; "different strokes for kinky folks".

Is that still around? It was part of the Leather Pride motto in L.A.--been away for awhile due to a back injury. Don't feel the need to create a forum just for this, but was wondering if anyone here knew of it. . . . . . . . .

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 11:57:04 AM   
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Oh, lord, Hibi, I would never say that. I'm sure the op really does think it is all about her and I'm all for her rotting her hubbys cock off with rub and scabs and a nasty infection because she didn't pay attention to what she was supposed to be doing.

*snort* You know it's funny...you need a license to own a dog but many seem to think you can call a person a pet and not have to take care of them.



Well they let anyone breed, too, and look where that leads!


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I've found that a little snip, snip works just as well and doesn't mess up getting my game on!


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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 12:07:40 PM   
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I am willing to openly admit that unless the website I am on is being monitored by the federal gov., in a way that could end up with me in the pen, I don't really give a wits tit about protocol. After all this isn't half life, or I<3U, or a real dungeon. This is a web forum and everyone should behave, and treat others, the same way they would if they met them in public. With honesty, cival respect, and a bit of laughter if they say something stupid.

Seeing as you answered right after me I don't know if you comment is about me joking with Hibi or the answer I gave the OP. My answer to her was real advice and in no way ridicule. Everyone that takes up the act (on either end) of chastity should learn about the real health and mental issues it can cause or cause to worsen.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 12:13:11 PM   
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I am willing to openly admit that unless the website I am on is being monitored by the federal gov., in a way that could end up with me in the pen, I don't really give a wits tit about protocol. After all this isn't half life, or I<3U, or a real dungeon. This is a web forum and everyone should behave, and treat others, the same way they would if they met them in public. With honesty, cival respect, and a bit of laughter if they say something stupid.

Seeing as you answered right after me I don't know if you comment is about me joking with Hibi or the answer I gave the OP. My answer to her was real advice and in no way ridicule. Everyone that takes up the act (on either end) of chastity should learn about the real health and mental issues it can cause or cause to worsen.


That and... only allowing someone to release in a certain way. That is one of my great pet peeves! So much damage can be done and seeing that damage in someone that newly comes into my life just ticks me off! What do you mean you can only cum outside of me? Who the hell did that to you and why did you let them? Has no one heard that variety is the spice of life and really prevents a lot of harm we can do or have done to us?


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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 12:40:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

I am willing to openly admit that unless the website I am on is being monitored by the federal gov., in a way that could end up with me in the pen, I don't really give a wits tit about protocol. After all this isn't half life, or I<3U, or a real dungeon. This is a web forum and everyone should behave, and treat others, the same way they would if they met them in public. With honesty, cival respect, and a bit of laughter if they say something stupid.

Seeing as you answered right after me I don't know if you comment is about me joking with Hibi or the answer I gave the OP. My answer to her was real advice and in no way ridicule. Everyone that takes up the act (on either end) of chastity should learn about the real health and mental issues it can cause or cause to worsen.


Perhaps when it comes across as being snarky on the majority of forums, it turns into something less than pleasant for the rest of the viewers. We are a community-based group who had to get our rules from the Gay Leather Fetishists (and god love 'em for it).

The 'net changed BDSM in 2002 - 2003 when computers and the 'net became as common-place as toasters. First you had the 'Goreans', many of whom never picked the books up. Then you had ..... oooh crap. Well we had a graduating sense of fads, right now it's shibari. Given that most people stick only with what's on the 'net, and that sites like Castle Realm are gone, perhaps having a haven where they can ask what you feel are stupid questions is appropriate. I did not feel this was inappropriate, and am glad this woman asked her question here. I learned something I was not aware of, and would not really wish to explore on my own since CBT makes me ill. I would not have applied the same problems of a chastity belt to those of a cage or the gates of hell. (On a personal note, I question whether you really would appreciate such treatment in public by a complete stranger for no reason. You would be upset if I told you to take a Midol, yes?)

It also gives way to whether or not a person doing it should be allowed to be abusive. One snarky comment here or there is not abusive. Snarky comments geared at bringing people's self esteem down constantly, is. Snarky comments shifted at belitting people reaching out for advice or assistance just seems worse to me, regardless of the 'justification'. And it also demeans the person uttering said comments.


It is my understanding that one of a Dom/Domina, Master/Mistress's primary roles in the dynamic is to instruct and teach, guide and enlighten. Nurturing comes into that, unless you subscribe to the whole power-Domina thing. (Personally one of the most interesting conversations I find is the question of whether a woman can truly be dominant at all, or if she has been forced into it as a result of the sexual revolution and feminazis going too far with killing both the male and female dynamics, but that's seriously beside the point, just one of my favorite debate topics of all time.)


There's actually a group of people who have been on the forums here for sometime and feel a sense of ownership of them. They also feel this excuses what is actually standard and world-wide accepted Lifestyle protocol. Somehow that cheapens their respective and professed statuses to me. Not to mention, just makes this place into an all out ragging festival of increased levels of stupidity that ultimately make all of us look like we have a chip on our shoulder and something to prove.


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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 12:52:10 PM   
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LOL... I saw some real good stuff at Castle Realm... however, I saw some real shit too. Protocol in some areas said that women couldn't be dominant and that every dominant woman was just a wayward woman that hadn't met the right man yet. Protocol in some places insisted that some form of online bs was the order of the day and I got such a kick out of it. Why must a dominant woman like me, depend on the rules or protocol established by another or a group? There may be good reason other than online trolling or gamers... that some protocol has gone by the way side.

Simply put... I expect people to be whomever they are and protocol belongs within my relationships, not on a forum or in a chat room unless those are the chat room rules. When in Rome and all that. However, I find it rather ironic, funny or irritating when someone comes at me with their protocol, in email or here and expect me... a dominant woman that didn't get there because of some life abuse... to act like a dominant should within their protocol.

As well as with snark. If someone of adult age comes in trying to play the masses in the form of a stupid question and I do believe there are some... I won't be pulling out the red carpet, teaching, being patient and coddling the horny little fuck just so I can be seen as a nice person or a good dominant.

I have a lot of respect for my old school friends. I just don't feel the need to live as they do and funny thing is... they like that about me and respect me too. Go figure....

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 1:05:47 PM   
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Um, FantasyKisses? You do know that the only form of BDSM that descended from Old Guard leathermen is the BDSM in the United States, right? And, more to the point, the Old Guard protocols varied dramatically from region to region. As one example, some used collars, and some did not use them at all.

This is a website with posters from all over the world, a great many of whom cannot trace their kink to gay leathermen at all. Japanese S&M is thousands of years older than US-based S&M, and there are a few threads in General started by a Japanese person, right now.

There are no worldwide standards of BDSM protocol. Period. Further, anyone who tells you what the "Old Guard Protocols" were is blowing smoke up your vag. The "Old Guard" was a grouping of heterogeneous subcultures that didn't agree on too damn much.

Perhaps, instead of upbraiding the female dominants who have posted on this thread, you could use your many years of lifestyle experience to answer the question of the OP, which is what I will do sometime tonight, because I actually know something about this subject (after many years of not). However, I have to take care of a few things first.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 3:21:33 PM   
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There is a whole lot here I could comment on but for the sake of civility I'm not going to. If you honestly beleive that I said something out of line, something that should not be allowed on the boards, I ask that you please report it to the mods. If they feel I have done something wrong I am sure they will tell me.

*Edit to add* To get back on topic I would like to see the OP come back and ask any other questions she might have. If we are lucky we can get the posters that deal with chastity daily to come comment.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/25/2012 3:54:33 PM   
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My sub/hubby and i have recently talked about chastity. He has a problem with masterbating and this makes him well....lets say not so eager to please sexually and emotionally.He wants to try this as well but i think he is gonna regret it when i start because the thought of controlling his orgasms makes me feel extremely powerful and hot!! He is well endowed and thick. We bought one but to our disapointment it didnt fit so we were considering the curve? I plan on tricking him by tying him up and draining his cock till its a limp noodle! then while hes helplessly restrained im gonna lock him up!!

I've been spending a lot of time with a femdom whose favorite thing is chastity, and, frankly, it's given me a hankering to chastise a nonsexual male slave of my own, because she has so much fun with it. We'll see if I actually do it, but the idea has gone from never-ever a fantasy, to something that I really might do. So I've done some research. Here goes.

The Curve helps for length, but not girth. Perhaps the device that is best for girth is the Birdlocked Neo, based on manufacturers' specs; I don't know anyone who has ever worn it. However, the Birdlocked, and the CB line as well, require a man to have relatively low-hanging balls. If your man's scrotum is usually tight, he will probably need to use a ball stretcher first (of which the leather ones are the simplest and safest to use, though real body-modifiers use stainless steel).

Also, the DickCage seems to be a very interesting apparatus, and could accommodate length, but perhaps it is not suitable for long term chastity.

To address some other comments in the thread: devices do not appear to be that hard to escape from; the issue is that re-insertion can be made almost impossible. So the device does not really prevent masturbation, but rather it holds the wearer accountable. Ultimately, though, unless the wearer is in mental bondage to the dominant, the physical bondage of the device will be insufficient for the task. Like most other bondage we do, especially long-term bondage, the physical tools are intended to reinforce the mental bondage already there, not to be police-grade or prison-grade apparatus that restrains a nonconsensual prisoner.

Finally, regarding long-term chastity: there is a significant psychological danger of inducing impotence, especially if the relationship dissolves. At least with standard over-the-counter devices, the dominant is not just taking away the sub's orgasm; the dominant is taking away the sub's ability to have an erection, to get aroused at all. If you search, for example, among the posts of the user "pixelslave" you will find that he was unable to reconnect to his arousal when in a new loving relationship, and his new Mistress had to spend great effort reprogramming his sexual desires.

The most interesting forums I have found for this topic are at chastitylifestyle.com. Searching this forum for the chastity posts of the user "Aakasha" will get you a lot of information also. Probably the most important slogan to remember when reading any chastity-related material on the internet, though, is, "Don't believe the hype."

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 10:36:32 AM   
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Men are more than their sexuality, aren't they?



Ummmmmm, no.


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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 11:10:07 AM   
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Men are more than their sexuality, aren't they?



Ummmmmm, no.






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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 11:22:21 AM   
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I tried the Curve but had no luck and gave up on that type of design. I think something with straps around the waist and legs like a jock would be more secure - and comfortable. Unfortunately, the only things even close are locking leather shorts or jock straps that do not allow for using the toilet or hygiene. I've been looking unsuccessfully for a chainmail cock sheath with jock straps to keep it in place. If anyone knows where to find such a device, do tell. Otherwise, I think I'll need to take up metal working ;)

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 11:24:04 AM   
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For beauty, Mr S Leather... most of that stuff is "impractical", but ever so shiny! http://www.mr-s-leather.com/area/13/cock-ball-toys.html

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 4:53:29 PM   
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Chastity via manual or electro-milking as suggested in your other thread is what I recommend. Hygiene can be maintained and if properly done, it's safe. Just figure out how long between milkings it takes for him to get testy, selfish, or disobedient then put him on a schedule. If done by electro, you can just tell him to go clean out his ass, get his gear, and do it himself while you're busy with a book or movie. If you leave his hands free you can have him rub your feet at the same time.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 6:44:57 PM   
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My sub/hubby and i have recently talked about chastity. He has a problem with masterbating and this makes him well....lets say not so eager to please sexually and emotionally.He wants to try this as well but i think he is gonna regret it when i start because the thought of controlling his orgasms makes me feel extremely powerful and hot!! He is well endowed and thick. We bought one but to our disapointment it didnt fit so we were considering the curve? I plan on tricking him by tying him up and draining his cock till its a limp noodle! then while hes helplessly restrained im gonna lock him up!! Do you who have experience feel its better to keep him locked up until im ready to play or use this as punishment to teach lessons.For examaple when he does something i do not like i add X amount of days in chastity and if he behaves his time will be shortened by X amount of time ? He is very dominant at work and in life but im am in control in our bedroom. I would like to make him a more passive outside of this and ive noticed the longer he goes without orgasm the sweeter he is.



I'd say, have your wife write the next post.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 7:43:40 PM   
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Ah Nook, ye of little faith!!

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 11:25:53 PM   
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I'd say, have your wife write the next post.



I thought I was the only one thinking this. When I read both of the post by "GoddessW", I immediately thought, "That was written by a guy".

Perhaps I'm wrong. But it just doesn't sound like a woman's thoughts. Both threads seem to be too focused on his dick.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/26/2012 11:29:32 PM   
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I'd say, have your wife write the next post.



I thought I was the only one thinking this. When I read both of the post by "GoddessW", I immediately thought, "That was written by a guy".

Perhaps I'm wrong. But it just doesn't sound like a woman's thoughts. Both threads seem to be too focused on his dick.


Bingo

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/27/2012 12:48:11 PM   
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Busted again, dude.

You could have just asked the question as 'yourself'.

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RE: Chastity Question? - 4/27/2012 3:13:24 PM   
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For beauty, Mr S Leather... most of that stuff is "impractical", but ever so shiny! http://www.mr-s-leather.com/area/13/cock-ball-toys.html



Did you see?! Mr. S runs a chastity key service for $20! Now I know whom I'm going to recommend!

"Chastity Key Service

Want to up your game a little on locking your dick away? Imagine the uncertainty as you click the padlock shut and seal the key inside the envelope... Send your key to Mr. S for safe keeping knowing that you can't break and run to the secret hiding place you normally keep it in. We'll even include a UPS label with your purchase (or email you one at any time) so you can get your keys safely to us. Let us know when you want your key back - one day or one month - and we'll UPS it safely back to you. You can trust us with it - promise. "

http://www.mr-s-leather.com/KEY022/chastity-key-service.html

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