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tazzygirl -> Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 12:24:24 AM)

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) shocked the Florida Council Against Sexual Violence this week when he vetoed $1.5 million in funding for 30 rape crisis centers in the middle of Sexual Assault Awareness Month. State lawmakers allotted the money to offset an increase in need and a lack of sufficient funding for victim services.

A spokesperson for Scott said he vetoed that particular line item in the state budget because the state already funds sexual violence programs, and nobody was able to make it clear to him why rape crisis centers needed the new funding.

"Governor Scott approved funding for many projects that have statewide impact and do not duplicate programs already funded by the state," Lane Wright, Scott's press secretary, told HuffPost. "This new funding of $1.5 million would have been duplicative, since, as a state, we already fund sexual violence programs. There was no information suggesting any needs in this area weren’t already being met. The state already provides about $6.5 million for rape prevention and sexual assault services. That is in addition to the funds available for domestic violence programs -- $29 million to be specific. Many victims of sexual violence seek refuge at domestic violence shelters."

Jennifer Dritt, the executive director of the Florida Council, said she was "stunned" and "confused" by Scott's move and that she questions his reasoning for slashing the funds.

"We say 'here's the need, here's the need, here's the need,' and frankly, nobody's paying any attention," she told HuffPost. "We gave them information about the number of new survivors we have and we showed them that these rape crisis centers have waiting lists. Survivors are having to wait weeks, sometimes six weeks, in some programs three months to be seen. We included quotes from the programs about the waiting lists and what services they weren't able to offer because of a lack of money. There is clearly an unmet need."

As for the $6.5 million that Scott said the government provides for rape prevention and sexual assault services, a large percentage of that money is distributed to education programs, not actual crisis centers serving the victims.

"He's probably including rape prevention and education money," she said. "You think they would have asked us about that, and we could explain to them very clearly what money is available for our programs. It looks like $1.5 million is a lot of money to ask for, but frankly, when you spread it across 67 counties, it's not."

From a political standpoint, Scott's cuts to sexual violence funding could not have come at a worse time, as Republicans in Congress are taking heat for opposing the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. But Scott's spokesman said the governor's decision had nothing to do with the oft-cited GOP "war on women."

"Anyone who’s trying to say this veto is evidence of a war on women, is deliberately trying to mislead the public for political ends," Wright said.

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misquoted Jennifer Dritt regarding the distribution of state money across Florida counties. She referred to 67 counties. The earlier story incorrectly stated the number of counties Dritt mentioned.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/23/rick-scott-florida-govern_n_1447294.html

Women and children first.




SoftBonds -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 12:31:36 AM)

Everyone knows rape education is just a liberal program to tell women to abort the babies. The only moral thing to do is tell the rape victims to suck it up and raise the kid. During Sarah Palin's time as mayor of Wasilla, her police chief bravely stood up to this liberal program by requiring rape victims to pay a few grand for the investigation, while not requiring similar payments from other crime victims.




tazzygirl -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 12:35:24 AM)

OK.. this is too important to allow it to get mired down into political rhetoric.

Palin and the rape kits.

Wasilla clearly had the policy. Bloggers have portrayed it as a heartless rule seeking money from rape victims, but they have neglected to mention that the policy seems to have been aimed more at getting money from insurance companies than from victims.

We can’t find that Palin ever commented on the policy, pro or con. But as mayor, she indirectly endorsed it by approving city budgets that relied on the revenue. So we find the bloggers' charge to be Half True


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/sep/22/palin-rape-kit-controversy/

I didnt agree with it, but it was more from insurance companies than from the victims pockets... as incredible as that may sound.. and it pains me to even try and defend that practice or Palin.





SoftBonds -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 12:48:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

OK.. this is too important to allow it to get mired down into political rhetoric.

Palin and the rape kits.

Wasilla clearly had the policy. Bloggers have portrayed it as a heartless rule seeking money from rape victims, but they have neglected to mention that the policy seems to have been aimed more at getting money from insurance companies than from victims.

We can’t find that Palin ever commented on the policy, pro or con. But as mayor, she indirectly endorsed it by approving city budgets that relied on the revenue. So we find the bloggers' charge to be Half True


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/sep/22/palin-rape-kit-controversy/

I didnt agree with it, but it was more from insurance companies than from the victims pockets... as incredible as that may sound.. and it pains me to even try and defend that practice or Palin.




Point taken, sorry.




joether -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 4:03:06 AM)

Why is it a requirement that to be elected to office as a Republican, one has to have a 'Dungeons & Dragons' wisdom modifier of -4?





papassion -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:37:11 AM)


Why is it that to be elected Democrat you must have the mindset that everyone is a helpless dolt and needs the government to hold your hand and lead you thru life?

Dungeons and Dragons? I'm conservative so I work for a living and don't spend all day playing games. Wait, fantasy games, Democrats fantasy world? Oh, I see the connection!




Lucylastic -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:48:53 AM)

SO people (men get raped too) who have been raped dont "deserve" any kind of help especially from the government? is that what you are saying?
I take it you dont care as it will never happen to anyone you care about huh, and you can take care of your own!.
bully for you...
Conservatives dont play "games"
LMFAO yeah right




DarkSteven -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:52:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

From a political standpoint, Scott's cuts to sexual violence funding could not have come at a worse time, as Republicans in Congress are taking heat for opposing the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. But Scott's spokesman said the governor's decision had nothing to do with the oft-cited GOP "war on women."



The Dems announced that the GOP's stance on women would be an issue, and the GOP obliged.




tazzygirl -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:52:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: papassion


Why is it that to be elected Democrat you must have the mindset that everyone is a helpless dolt and needs the government to hold your hand and lead you thru life?

Dungeons and Dragons? I'm conservative so I work for a living and don't spend all day playing games. Wait, fantasy games, Democrats fantasy world? Oh, I see the connection!


Do you really want to have your blinders removed?




thishereboi -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:55:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

SO people (men get raped too) who have been raped dont "deserve" any kind of help especially from the government? is that what you are saying?
I take it you dont care as it will never happen to anyone you care about huh, and you can take care of your own!.
bully for you...
Conservatives dont play "games"
LMFAO yeah right



In the first part it seems like he was making a bigoted slap at the left in response to j's bigoted slap at the right. In the second he was putting down video game players suggesting they live in a fantasy world.

Where out of that did you get that he doesn't care about people who get raped?




thishereboi -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 6:56:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

From a political standpoint, Scott's cuts to sexual violence funding could not have come at a worse time, as Republicans in Congress are taking heat for opposing the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. But Scott's spokesman said the governor's decision had nothing to do with the oft-cited GOP "war on women."



The Dems announced that the GOP's stance on women would be an issue, and the GOP obliged.



It certainly seems to be working for them.




Lucylastic -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:05:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

SO people (men get raped too) who have been raped dont "deserve" any kind of help especially from the government? is that what you are saying?
I take it you dont care as it will never happen to anyone you care about huh, and you can take care of your own!.
bully for you...
Conservatives dont play "games"
LMFAO yeah right



In the first part it seems like he was making a bigoted slap at the left in response to j's bigoted slap at the right. In the second he was putting down video game players suggesting they live in a fantasy world.

Where out of that did you get that he doesn't care about people who get raped?

Now here we have it, you jump all over me making dumb assertions, Thankyou for telling me off:)
I was on topic, pissed off with people who just jump because of politics, Not dealing with the topic, I can make whatever assertion I want, YOU seem to be doing it non stop SOP. without partaking of the topic at hand.
My only political jab was calling on bullshit that cons dont play video games, but well done for leaping all over me again.
back to your pointed lib attacks nicely, congrats





jlf1961 -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:05:51 AM)

Republicans think that rape is the victim's fault, dont ya know




tazzygirl -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:13:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

SO people (men get raped too) who have been raped dont "deserve" any kind of help especially from the government? is that what you are saying?
I take it you dont care as it will never happen to anyone you care about huh, and you can take care of your own!.
bully for you...
Conservatives dont play "games"
LMFAO yeah right



In the first part it seems like he was making a bigoted slap at the left in response to j's bigoted slap at the right. In the second he was putting down video game players suggesting they live in a fantasy world.

Where out of that did you get that he doesn't care about people who get raped?


So instead of taking a sane slap at both of them for their "bigoted"stupidity, you take a slap at Lucy....

[sm=applause.gif]

Congrats

sad




thishereboi -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:13:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

SO people (men get raped too) who have been raped dont "deserve" any kind of help especially from the government? is that what you are saying?
I take it you dont care as it will never happen to anyone you care about huh, and you can take care of your own!.
bully for you...
Conservatives dont play "games"
LMFAO yeah right



In the first part it seems like he was making a bigoted slap at the left in response to j's bigoted slap at the right. In the second he was putting down video game players suggesting they live in a fantasy world.

Where out of that did you get that he doesn't care about people who get raped?

Now here we have it, you jump all over me making dumb assertions, Thankyou for telling me off:)
I was on topic, pissed off with people who just jump because of politics, Not dealing with the topic, I can make whatever assertion I want, YOU seem to be doing it non stop SOP. without partaking of the topic at hand.
My only political jab was calling on bullshit that cons dont play video games, but well done for leaping all over me again.
back to your pointed lib attacks nicely, congrats




I told you how I interpreted his post and asked you a question to clarify your position. Now you accuse me of "jumping all over you" and "telling you off"? [8|]

so if you were pissed of with people who jump in because of politics and not dealing with the topic, why did you ignore the post above his?




tazzygirl -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:14:49 AM)

quote:

I told you how I interpreted his post and asked you a question to clarify your position. Now you accuse me of "jumping all over you" and "telling you off"?

so if you were pissed of with people who jump in because of politics and not dealing with the topic, why did you ignore the post above his?


And why did you ignore them both?




thishereboi -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:15:54 AM)

Why did you?




tazzygirl -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:21:00 AM)

quote:

So instead of taking a sane slap at both of them for their "bigoted"stupidity, you take a slap at Lucy....


Did I?

I addressed SoftBond's attempt here. Lucy addressed the other two. And you want to attack us.

Incredible.

You argue for someone who you believe agrees with your values. But you and I both know that, if nothing else, Lucy is very strong on these issues.

Do us all a favor, put your partisan bullshit aside for this.... as I told SB, its far too important to deal with lies, misunderstandings and snark.




Moonhead -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:26:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi
In the second he was putting down video game players suggesting they live in a fantasy world.

Dungeons and Dragons isn't a video game, dear: it's an old fashioned thing that uses funny dice and lots of books.




papassion -> RE: Florida vetoes funding rape crisis centers (4/26/2012 7:26:45 AM)


Correction, I don't think video game players live in a fantasy world. They know it is a fantasy game they are playing. Democrats think their vision is not a fantasy world. Big difference.




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