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Commentary by CNN's Dean Obeidallah, which I agree with 110%

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

So much for Freedom of Speech. I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia during the Carter Administration. You should have heard what the Officers thought of Carter...strange non of them were dismissed, Major, Lt Col, and Col.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

LOL, if it aint our old friend the broadcaster, alligator wrestler, educator and general inchoate.

How you doing?   They let you off the leash, huh?

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

So much for Freedom of Speech. I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia during the Carter Administration. You should have heard what the Officers thought of Carter...strange non of them were dismissed, Major, Lt Col, and Col.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
If he gets the right lawyer he has a kick ass case from what I can see.

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ORIGINAL: IchBinFotograf

First off I am a conservative. I am NOT a leftist/socialist/progressive/communist or whatever you obama mania lovers are.

Having said that, if the Marine wants to disparage his commander in chief, he should resign. THEN do it. Or at least do the criticism in private so we don't know who he is.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Do you see how this thread, and this type of thread, is turning into the usual conservative liberal camps? It is always frustrating to see how shallow people are when they forget their so called moral base to match their political views.

Damn he was wrong…deserved what he got…but so was the damn Marlins coach…and all other loud mouths that think freedom of speech goes without repercussions and that includes some of the occupy ding bats.

Please folks be consistent and forget your political stance.

ps... not you in particular Owner59 you are pretty consistent but in general.

Butch

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I actually see more people agreeing, that generally do not agree politically

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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

So what sort of 'Other Than Honorable Discharge' did he get? The three I remember from my days in the Navy (back when the world was in black and white) were Undesirable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. Any current/recent military know which they use for people inciting mutiny and disloyalty?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

So much for Freedom of Speech. I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia during the Carter Administration. You should have heard what the Officers thought of Carter...strange non of them were dismissed, Major, Lt Col, and Col.

I guess they were not stupid enough to post their hate on the internet.

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ORIGINAL: Trekkie

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

So much for Freedom of Speech. I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia during the Carter Administration. You should have heard what the Officers thought of Carter...strange non of them were dismissed, Major, Lt Col, and Col.

The rule now (don't know if it was the rule, then) is that military personnel have freedom of speech when they aren't representing the armed forces.

For example, they're allowed to march in political rallys. But not to do so in uniform. If they aren't in uniform, then they're a citizen. If they're in uniform, then it's like they're saying that the uniform endorses (whatever the rally is about).

Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper, and sign it Joe Blow, and you're good.

Write the exact same letter, and sign it Sgt Joe Blow, USMC, and you can, technically, face court martial.

I've been told, by current military personnel, that these rules are part of UCMJ (technically, you can be court martialed for them), and that personnel are briefed on these rules, and what's allowed and what isn't.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Freedom of Speech


Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) prohibits commissioned officers from speaking or writing "contemptuous words" against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present.

DOD Directive 1344.10 extends this prohibition to all active duty personnel, including enlisted.

In fact, two PACAF enlisted people were recently handed nonjudicial punishment for repeatedly forwarding e-mails containing offensive material involving President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.




SUBJECT: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces
References: (a) DoD Directive 1344.10, “Political Activities by Members of the Armed
Forces on Active Duty,” August 2, 2004 (hereby canceled)
(b) Sections 973, 888, 101, and Chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code
(c) DoD Instruction 1334.1, “Wearing of the Uniform,” October 26, 2005
(d) Section 441a of title 2, United States Code
(e) through (i), see Enclosure 1

4. POLICY
It is DoD policy to encourage members of the Armed Forces (hereafter referred to as
“members”) (including members on active duty, members of the Reserve Components not on
active duty, members of the National Guard even when in a non-Federal status, and retired
members) to carry out the obligations of citizenship. In keeping with the traditional concept that
members on active duty should not engage in partisan political activity, and that members not on
active duty should avoid inferences that their political activities imply or appear to imply official
sponsorship, approval, or endorsement, the following policy shall apply:

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Might do some good for some people to read this.