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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 4:07:59 PM

LadyHibiscus

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Wow. So fantasykisses owns the site now, AND is going to tell me my job as a dom. Great.

I love the hide key.

OP, if you're still out there, have fun, and dont believe everything you read. It takes a lot of work to do "damage". Listen to your body, and have fun. It's why we're here, after all.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 4:16:55 PM

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I gave up legalistic religion a long time ago... I gave up fighting with lawyers most the time, because they really like the debate. I gave up thinking my shit didn't stink oh about the age of sixteen and I never thought I was a goddess and could effect so much wonder of it all that lightening would strike and everyone would be as I wanted them to be.

When I believe and have an opinion about someone that wants to learn, I will reach out to them. When I think they are bringing a bit of fantasy, I may give them a bit of hell... and let me tell you, if I did go by the old school community idea you seem to think so highly of, that question and boy calling himself a dominant, even in old school circles and castle realm would have been put in his place.

If you want to judge old school compared to new school... whatever... you go right ahead, each have their faults. For which I might be one... but as for your opinion of me... its just an opinion and I am sure many have them.

Old school, you would have been told to get in order real quick.

Because your take on this thread is what it is and others disagree with you and we all respond differently based on whether he is actually asking out of fantasy, the need to know or anything else... doesn't mean anyone is going to take your correction any more than someone might take ours. However it is done.

Now... I'm done with you and this will be my last post directly to you. I have other things to do than to debate anything with you as we are apparently never going to agree on enough to continue.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 4:18:07 PM

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Nope, not telling you how to do your job, challenging the validity of your self-imposed title in direct response to your actions. That's all.

See, I don't like bullies. If you have to bully some unknown person on a forum.... well that's your bag. I sincerely hope you enjoy reaping the benefits of it. But you should be aware that I will call you on your behavior (or lack there of), just as you choose to call others on their 'stupid questions'.

It should also be known that I offered this guy a picture of my naked caned ass. He hasn't accepted it. So I think those people who accused him of being a troll should step up and apologize because you were obviously wrong in your assumptions. You also did him a serious injustice. Or have 'net-identified dominants also stopped accepting responsibility for their actions as well?

I'm going back to the real world. While it's wonderful having my e-mail notifier pop up every ten minutes, I don't have all day to sit on the forums and I've answered this kid's question.

Oh, and guy, if you're looking for scene ideas ... watch any Van Halen school-related music video, Twisted Sister, and *insert anime title here*

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:04:01 PM

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Some people never cry from pain, ever. A friend of mine was lucky enough to get her aerobic exercise beating on a Navy SEAL. He would moan sometimes. Faintly.

Have you ever been hit with a cane? It is some amazing pain, and I *like* being caned. Don't sign up for more than you bargained for.

If she's never done anything like this, don't be her lab rat.

Why shouldn't he be? I mean, he says they're good friends, wouldn't you much rather practice on someone you trust than someone you're not so well aquainted with?
I know one thing, I will <never> let someone I am not close to use an implement I am not familiar with on my body. If Mr wants to take the time to learn something new (and he is a sadistic bastard so he likes new toys) I would rather he practice, and fuck up, on me than someone we are just casual with.

Maybe I am just looking at it from a different perspective than you. I am very protective of Mr and wouldn't want him to be anything but *well practiced* if he were using something on someone other than me.

meh, rambling in circles, sorry

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:10:17 PM

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Why shouldn't he be?

Because learning is also a skill that you have to learn. Your Mr has had to learn to use other implements before, right? He's probably used to the procedure - how to figure out the range of the thing, how to work out how to move with it, where its weight is, how intense it is, what to do with your arm to vary that intensity...

Learning a new toy is a process. And it's a process that's one hell of a lot easier to go through with, say, a light paddle, than with a cane.

If the first thing you ever pick up is a cane, you're going to have a very steep learning curve on it compared to someone who's used floggers and crops and paddles and carpet beaters and and and...

I can't speak for you, but I wouldn't be up for lab-ratting that.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:12:55 PM

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Naughty school boys get stools in the corner, with dunce hats, while I go play with the good boys.

youre no fun......

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:13:01 PM

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No, I wish I had. I was in D/FW and had to leave Castle Realm and the Life formally due to paralysis from an industrial accident in '03. [removed for clarity]

I only found out last year that she passed.

If you happen to know how I can get in touch with her daughter, I would really appreciate it please. I would like to send my condolences.

slave jade died in 1999, four years before your accident. Her death date was featured prominently on the site banner, as the Wayback Machine demonstrates.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030623085614/castlerealm.com/tours.shtml

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:15:09 PM

LadyHibiscus

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I am filtering through my own experience, Lucifyre. I am one of those "old school" before-the-internet people, and was lucky enough to be taught by experts and had gracious experienced people to practice on. My fault for thinking they are interested in doing the same.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:24:29 PM

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My fault for thinking they are interested in doing the same.

Hmmm.....no more fairy cakes for you my girl.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:26:42 PM

LadyHibiscus

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~sigh~ it's hard being a princess some days.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:32:12 PM

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My point was the difference between learning something new with someone you trust vs someone you dont know very well is all.

Every implement we pick up can have a steep learning curve if we are not careful. I probably take it for granted that Mr and I have been at this together as a couple for 17 years and there are quite a few folks who don't have the benefit of that kind of time with their current play partner under their belts. There is a TON of trust that goes into mine and Mr's relationship and he and I are always continuing to learn. Sometimes that trust takes us to places where yes, in fact I *am* his lab rat so to speak, but that's ok for us because I know I can trust him. And the point I was trying to make was because of that trust, I would rather be his lab rat while he is in the learning stages of playing with a new implement than someone we aren't that close to.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:37:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre
I would rather he practice, and fuck up, on me than someone we are just casual with.

With a cane, the best way to practice is with chalk and dark pillow to make sure that the line stays even and doesn't wrap. Caning incorrectly on bare skin can slice someone open.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 5:38:58 PM

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kindly drop your 'my leathers are holier than thou bullshit' and help the guy out.

I have learned a great many things about the lifestyle, and about myself as well,
simply by reading some of the very well thought out advice that both ChatteParfaitt
and Miss Lockit have been generous enough to post here over the years.

The internet is filled with an awful lot of horny people, and a high majority of those people
come to a site such as this with the intent of talking about their fantasies, so they will drum
up a question or two in the hopes of inviting others to discuss it with them. If you were to combine
the question from the OP with his profile, most would come away feeling as though this was just another
newbie, out to get his jollies met by a bunch of strangers.

While both ChatteParfaitt and Miss Lockit did offer the OP excellent advice, none of us here are obligated
by any sense of duty to the community to cater to the fantasies of internet strangers.

And just out of curiousity, how would sending the OP a picture of your caned ass answer his question?

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 6:20:01 PM

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Thank you poise.

And for anyone's information, in case you could give a flying fuck, it was my intention to make the OP *think* (regardless of his intentions, wank fodder wise or other wise).

Did I fail to accomplish that? Ah well, I tried.

Being nice is not always the best way to get people to search themselves.

In any case, my posting history speaks for itself. I can show compassion. I can also be a right old bitch.

I have my reasons for approaching things how I do, which I don't have to justify to anyone save the Man. And he understands me well. He thinks I do just fine.

Which means my posting style will remain the same. You love me or you hate me. I'm coolio with that.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/27/2012 11:02:59 PM

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How hard/ how many strokes so she can cane me as often as possible for most pain
(wihout permanent injury)

WE were thinking every three weeks ..

what else do you do to a schoolboy ?

strap/tawse in between ?

has to be mean enough for me to be scared ..

what are other good spanking options ?

Well, I'm not going to try too hard to cover all the ground that was asked about. I will mention what occurs to me.

If some one isn't real careful, someone is going to get injured. As clearly distinct from hurt.

The cane is a serious toy that can cut skin and does that most easily when there is bone just underneath. A cane is what we call, 'hard'. Bone is, too. When a hard thing hits a hard thing, often one of them loses. If the bone doesn't lose, then the ligaments attached to it might. What I'm saying is, the person using a cane has to be aware that it can be a great deal of fun, or not, depending upon how it is used.

And the there are the kidneys. She probably ought to stay away from them, because she cannot see the bruises she is putting on them.

I suggest that you consider the idea of a softer toy in a more or less scripted scene, intended to achieve the fright you said you were interested in.

Try this.

She starts slow and easy. Over the course of 10-15 minutes she brings up the intensity level. Eventually you tag out by using your safe word. If you are a newbie, as some here have supposed, perhaps you should script something for you to say, each time she hits you, so your mouth doesn't freeze shut. Which sometimes happens.

Here is the tricky part. The script says that when you tag out, things are just getting started. At that point, she might lock you in a closet or detain you in some other convenient way, and then go have a sandwich. No Beer. Then, after the sandwich. The toothbrush. A little make-up fiddling. A change in her outfit. A chat with her mother on the phone. And anything else that might be up, she might remember you. And start in on you again from the beginning. Slow and easy at first. Then, not.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

In (not too much) time, she will figure out exactly what she can do to you. And there won't be much you can say about that. Without spending some time by yourself. And seeing as the object is to make you afraid...

I said, dot dot dot. The rest is up to you.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/28/2012 6:11:14 PM

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thank you for all these sincere, considerate and concerned posts and sharings of experience.

we did some stuff, she couldn't master the xane which fallped around too much, but she loved the leather flexi-paddle and a biger diameter bendy plastic tube

we're being very careful, the restraints, the compulsion .. the gloating of power, the games, they'll come later after we both agree about the qualities of all the implements ..

oh and a younger girl very rudely told me my "CDs sucked" last night, .. intrrigued that she would know my avant garde material, i asked he why she thought that .. she shrugged, "whatever" and said i was being mean

so K and I want to invite her along to see me being thrashed some time soon .. but i'll doggedly argue my case so as to be punished for my convictions, and maybe we'll invite her to swing a cat .. and we'll tell her we're trying to cure me of my meanness .. and btw, would she like us to try curing her of meanness

various woman spectators, well why not? the tradition of the governess, school teacher, .. and the hapless mtale, the fantasy of dominant women, let's get along with that sister in law that doesn't like Kay and me .." .. the divorcee stage show, an actress removing the mans supports on by one, he becomes the hanged man

and of course the bridal hen crowd that excitedly swings into action, turns on the stripper, explains the modern expectationof the stripped degraded, exploited, tied down and gang raped, etc..

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/28/2012 6:18:42 PM

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thank you for all these sincere, considerate and concerned posts and sharings of experience.

we did some stuff, she couldn't master the xane which fallped around too much, but she loved the leather flexi-paddle and a biger diameter bendy plastic tube

we're being very careful, the restraints, the compulsion .. the gloating of power, the games, they'll come later after we both agree about the qualities of all the implements ..

oh and a younger girl very rudely told me my "CDs sucked" last night, .. intrrigued that she would know my avant garde material, i asked he why she thought that .. she shrugged, "whatever" and said i was being mean

so K and I want to invite her along to see me being thrashed some time soon .. but i'll doggedly argue my case so as to be punished for my convictions, and maybe we'll invite her to swing a cat .. and we'll tell her we're trying to cure me of my meanness .. and btw, would she like us to try curing her of meanness

various woman spectators, well why not? the tradition of the governess, school teacher, .. and the hapless mtale, the fantasy of dominant women, let's get along with that sister in law that doesn't like Kay and me .." .. the divorcee stage show, an actress removing the mans supports on by one, he becomes the hanged man

and of course the bridal hen crowd that excitedly swings into action, turns on the stripper, explains the modern expectationof the stripped degraded, exploited, tied down and gang raped, etc..

Can you please repeat this in English? Thanks...

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/28/2012 7:25:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: forcedsensuality

How hard/ how many strokes so she can cane me as often as possible for most pain
(wihout permanent injury)

27.

WE were thinking every three weeks .

I'm thinking every 5 days.

what else do you do to a schoolboy ?

Make him wear a wool blazer and a patch that expresses the school colors.

strap/tawse in between ?

Don't even know what that means.

has to be mean enough for me to be scared .

I say she beats the living fuck out of you....but with a tenderness that expresses total disdain

what are other good spanking options ?

I'll have to get back to you on this.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/29/2012 9:33:48 AM

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FK - your avatar says it all.

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RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard eno... - 4/29/2012 11:46:52 AM

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I have know LH for many years and the last thing she is, is a bully. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant. By all means carry on...

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