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Aylee -> Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 10:30:15 AM)
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-school-cheat-20120427,0,1656872.story quote: According to an interesting story in the San Mateo County Times, this trend has reached something of a peak at a high school school where a father is going to court to keep his son from facing the school's discipline for cheating. No one is denying that the boy broke the rules, copying essay homework from another student, but the father's argument is that the punishment -- throwing the sophomore out of the English honors course -- is too harsh because a regular English course doesn't impress colleges as much as the more rigorous class. The teen will still be allowed to enter the schools advanced International Baccalaureate program in the fall, and the cheating will not show up on any records sent to colleges, according to the newspaper. Insane.

thompsonx -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 10:40:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-school-cheat-20120427,0,1656872.story quote: According to an interesting story in the San Mateo County Times, this trend has reached something of a peak at a high school school where a father is going to court to keep his son from facing the school's discipline for cheating. No one is denying that the boy broke the rules, copying essay homework from another student, but the father's argument is that the punishment -- throwing the sophomore out of the English honors course -- is too harsh because a regular English course doesn't impress colleges as much as the more rigorous class. The teen will still be allowed to enter the schools advanced International Baccalaureate program in the fall, and the cheating will not show up on any records sent to colleges, according to the newspaper. Insane. What do you figgure the father's chances are of prevailing in court?

Iamsemisweet -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 10:50:03 AM)
You can't stop someone from running off to the courthouse and paying the filing fee for a lawsuit, regardless of how frivolous it is. Doesn't mean he is going to succeed.

SternSkipper -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:05:40 AM)
quote: quote: According to an interesting story in the San Mateo County Times, this trend has reached something of a peak at a high school school where a father is going to court to keep his son from facing the school's discipline for cheating. No one is denying that the boy broke the rules, copying essay homework from another student, but the father's argument is that the punishment -- throwing the sophomore out of the English honors course -- is too harsh because a regular English course doesn't impress colleges as much as the more rigorous class. The teen will still be allowed to enter the schools advanced International Baccalaureate program in the fall, and the cheating will not show up on any records sent to colleges, according to the newspaper. Insane. Don't sweat it... it's just backlash from having Arnold as Governor ... the cheating fad will wear off as better examples are set by non-republicans.

Lucylastic -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:11:07 AM)
Id like to give the father a kick in the ass.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:11:46 AM)
It sounds like the issue was that the school had contradictory policies - one that stated expulsion from the class after one infraction and another that stated expulsion only after two infractions (and from the article posted below it sounds like this was the first infraction). I have two reactions to this. One, cheating is not a good thing and rules should be clear and enforced fairly. Cheaters don't help anyone, least of all themselves. And teaching a cheater that they can get away with their cheating is a poor lesson for a father to be giving. Two, because of the discrepancy in policy, the father might win his day in court, but he could lose the larger battle of trying to ensure his son gets into a good college. The son, because he is a minor, will not have his name public. But his father, because he is filing the lawsuit, has made his own name public. Jack Berghouse. It is all over the Internet. (and I don't feel bad about putting this name here because everyone agrees the son cheated. Even the son doesn't dispute that claim). I think Jack Berghouse filing this lawsuit has just ruined the chances for his son of getting into a lot of places. If we're all talking about this do you not think this will make the news at schools and colleges throughout the country? In addition, does anyone in this day and age not think that colleges run an Internet check on potential candidates? There have been stories about people losing jobs and college admissions due to things on their Facebook pages. Like people on admissions committees don't have access to the Internet. In addition, admissions to college require letters of recommendation from heads of schools and teachers. While they might not specifically mention the cheating, teachers and administrators at the school are under NO obligation to give this child a strong letter of recommendation. And given this, why would they? Karma is a bitch. Litigation cannot solve basic moral failing and the lack of a backbone. http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county-times/ci_20493867/parents-who-sued-school-over-sons-punishment-cheating

thishereboi -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:19:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: quote: According to an interesting story in the San Mateo County Times, this trend has reached something of a peak at a high school school where a father is going to court to keep his son from facing the school's discipline for cheating. No one is denying that the boy broke the rules, copying essay homework from another student, but the father's argument is that the punishment -- throwing the sophomore out of the English honors course -- is too harsh because a regular English course doesn't impress colleges as much as the more rigorous class. The teen will still be allowed to enter the schools advanced International Baccalaureate program in the fall, and the cheating will not show up on any records sent to colleges, according to the newspaper. Insane. Don't sweat it... it's just backlash from having Arnold as Governor ... the cheating fad will wear off as better examples are set by non-republicans. The father is trying to find someone else to blame for his kid cheating. What the fuck does his ignorance have to do with republicans. Seems like both you and the father are having a hard time with the concept that people should be accountable for their own actions.

PeonForHer -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:24:18 AM)
FR I think the child should resign. Adults at the top of business and politics look to schoolkids as examples when it comes to honesty and mature behaviour in general.

Lucylastic -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 11:26:16 AM)
LMAO excellent point !!! smewchies[;)]

SternSkipper -> RE: Is cheating in school becoming a protected right? (5/3/2012 1:54:12 PM)
quote: I think the child should resign. Adults at the top of business and politics look to schoolkids as examples when it comes to honesty and mature behaviour in general. Oh yeah sure QUIT before you even try to solve the problem with performance enhancing drugs or some other method accepted within normal societal guidelines. QUITTER!

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