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BitaTruble -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/5/2006 8:48:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: irishbynature

Hey Bita..but do you know of the actual States that ban it on the Internet? That's what was surprising to me....no offense against Utah...(just a joke)[;)]


It's been a while since I lived in Utah, but I believe they might qualify as one of those states. There are several leather mags that won't ship to Utah, you can't order cigs on line and have them shipped, you can't order some books online and have them shipped to addresses in Utah and the liquor stores are state run so you can only buy at certain times. As I recall, auto dealerships are not allowed to be open on Sundays.. but, this is from memory when I lived there about .. 6 years ago or so.. and it might have changed since then. I don't know of other states that have these restrictions although Texas might as well. When I lived there, I seem to recall similar issues, but that was a couple decades ago. Sorry I can't be of more help. Perhaps a google search?

Celeste




BitaTruble -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/5/2006 8:51:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

You just can't get anything over 3.2% beer unless you go to a private club. :)
Celeste


Don't forget the ultimate scam. You have to buy a club "membership" ($10-20) to even be able to order a drink that you ahve to pay for on top of the "membership". Gotta love anyplace you can pay $25 for one drink.


Yup and memberships are only good for a year although couples do get a discount. Of course, separate memberships have to be purchased for each club as well, even if they are owned by the same people.

Capitalism at it's best. (worst?)

Celeste




juliaoceania -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/5/2006 9:24:01 PM)

Sinergy,

We have the same system in California because of domestic violence. I had a family member that admitted to a doctor that her husband had strangled her and left bruises on her neck. This doctor reported this to the cops, and the district attorney filed charges against her husband. Now I am not sure that this has EVER been applied to people welting each other's backside in our state. But if no one knows then how do the authorities find out? It reminds me of the sodomy laws on the books in other states, you have to catch people doing it to charge them, right? I am thinking that in California this would be unlikely to happen, but I suppose no one ever knows.




Lordandmaster -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/5/2006 9:25:57 PM)

I like your real picture much better than the LoR av.




Gem -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/6/2006 2:41:04 AM)

Brightest Blessings
 
Most states ( if not all) have adopted the domestic dispute laws, which means one can not consent to being hit. SO basically if a neighbor calls and the police come a knocking, and find evidence of "assualt" ( actually they just have to suspect assualt) then the aggressor will be going to jail until they make bond.
 
It is no longer up to the victim to press the charges, it is up to the police and DA.
 
I am torn on these laws, because I sure as hell do not want there to be even a slim chances that an abuser can claim consent, on the other hand it makes what we do a wee bit harder to be acceptable.
 
Blessed Be
Gem




Wulfchyld -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/6/2006 11:06:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

For example, the Massachusetts Supreme Court has ruled that any hitting is assault, regardless of consent.  The ruling came from a case where a gay man was arrested for hitting his slave with a riding crop.


Out of curiosity, wouldn’t that make most professional sports illegal there?




Gem -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 2:15:45 AM)

Brightest Blessings
 
There are exceptions included in all domestic abuse laws and assault laws that make room for sports such as boxing.
 
Blessed Be
Gem




SinnersRepublic -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 9:32:41 AM)

Basically, in cases of domestic violence (real or perceived) or child neglect, the state can file charges regardless of whether or not the victim wants to. Essentially, the idea being that a battered woman is so fragile and broken, that she doesn't have the awareness to realize that she's a battered woman. It doesn't sound logical, and it doesn't always hold water from a psychological standpoint, but that is the assumption of the law. At least here in Maryland, that's how it works.

That's why the state can file charges, even if the victim says they aren't a victim. The state can literally label the victim too psychologically damaged to decide if they are a victim or not.




BrattyBottomRN -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:27:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: irishbynature

Bratty...[:D] LOL..and I bet Utah as a helloflah 'secret BDSM' community...and they're all married to each other....(winks!!!)
Irish



Damn Irish are you thinking what I'm thinking?

ROAD TRIP!!!!!!




Lordandmaster -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:41:02 AM)

That exception is based on the implied consent of athletes who take the field.  If consent isn't acceptable as a legal defense, then I'd have to say the legal standing of sports such as boxing really is imperiled.

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ORIGINAL: Gem

There are exceptions included in all domestic abuse laws and assault laws that make room for sports such as boxing.




thetammyjo -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:46:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo
I think it gets used against people who do BDSM when they are reported by busybodies or it comes in in divorce cases. I have yet to hear of the police looking around for folks who do BDSM.



Google "paddleboro"


I know this case and I know they were reported first to the police by someone they trusted -- be careful who I trust I guess might be a lesson.

I don't of any police force that has a BDSM branch that searches out SMers and such.




LokisBrat -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:51:54 AM)

Dunno how credible it is, but I found this:

http://gloria-brame.com/domidea/rumpoule.htm


[:)]

Edited to add that I found this to be a particularly intriguing snippet:

"So, for example, if a Top misrepresents his abilities or experience, say with a single-tail whip, he may not be able to claim consent as a defense if charged."

Brat




JohnWarren -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:57:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo
I think it gets used against people who do BDSM when they are reported by busybodies or it comes in in divorce cases. I have yet to hear of the police looking around for folks who do BDSM.



Google "paddleboro"


I know this case and I know they were reported first to the police by someone they trusted -- be careful who I trust I guess might be a lesson.

I don't of any police force that has a BDSM branch that searches out SMers and such.


Actually, the police were looking for a thief and came across the party. 

I don't know of any police force that "searches out" most kinds of criminals aside from "door shaking" to check for break-ins and such.  Most investigations are begun from a complaint or a chance occurance as happened in Paddleboro.




Bearlee -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 11:58:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

...
here in Queensland it is assult to shine a flashlight into some ones eyes deliberately, or even deliberatly fart at/on another.  


as it SHOULD be!!!!!!!   aaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggg!!!




doll -> RE: States that BAN this??? (6/7/2006 3:45:53 PM)

I know Arkansas is still pretty backwards in thinking on bdsm.  My ex husband used it against me in court to get custody of my child.




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