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Zonie63 -> RE: GOP Newsletter Calls for Armed Revolution if Obama Re-Elected (5/10/2012 10:25:10 AM)
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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Well, if we're guessing here, then I would guess that some of those 10,000 insurrectionists could conceivably be ex-military who could train the others in military tactics.
Most knowledgible military folks will agree that it takes a minimum of two years to train a rifleman. Considerably more for command staff. For an officer to attend the "war college" or "staff college" requires about ten or twelve years from comissioning.
If you are familiar with the "bay of pigs" invasion, the training (done clandestinly in mexico)took more than two years. They hit the beach with the best of the best amphibious assault vehicles available at the time. They were led by a marine corp lt col. and had hundreds of veterans as part of the assault force. They never got off the beach. They never had a prayer against a real army. Just as the colonist never had a prayer against the britts but for the professional help they got from folks like mercer,lafayette etal. The artillery supplied by spain through the neherlands. And of course their greatest ally was the britt preoccupation with europe.
Since you mention Cuba, I seem to recall reading that, in the Battle of Santa Clara, Che Guevara was outnumbered 10:1 with a ragtag band of revolutionaries against a real army. How do you explain that?
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Guessing even further, it's conceivable that some of those Marines might have friends or family members among the insurrectionists, so they might have divided loyalties and sympathies.
Perhaps you could tell us how many times since their inception in 1798 the marines have mutnied?
I don't think any of the military services have ever mutinied, although quite a few of their members joined the Confederacy during the Civil War.
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Military people are not robots. They have hearts and minds, too.
Might want to check into a place called cam ne...or better yet samar. Their hearts and minds are oriented to unit,corp, country, everything else is a target of opportunity.
You're talking about military actions in Asia, not in America. Big difference. If their hearts and minds are oriented to unit, corp, and country, then it should be noted that America is THEIR country and Americans are their countrymen.
Some of the most revolutionary people I've known were ex-military. I knew one guy who had served as a Seabee in Vietnam who had quite the revolutionary mindset, although more right-wing than left-wing. He was quite an influence on me when I was younger. His political views might have gotten him called an "anti-government wing-nut" by some, but I thought he was a decent and honorable man who cared deeply about his country and the direction it was taking.
My closest friend of 20 years is also ex-military. He went to DLI to study Russian, and his job in the Army was that of interrogator. He also has highly unconventional views on a lot of different subjects, and he's certainly no robot either. He has a chronic illness and sometimes I drive him down to the VA hospital, where I've come across quite a number of vets who are not exactly what I would call mindless conformists, which is what you seem to be implying here. Some might lean towards the right, while others might lean towards the left, but I don't think it's as black-and-white as you think it is.
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