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Greta75 -> RE: Need to fight? (5/17/2012 4:45:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

It became pretty clear in the first year of our marriage that if I argued with her I would win... every single time.

Wow. Is this suppose to be the character or the behaviour of a true sub though?

I can't imagine myself ever being capable of doing that. It's like always taking the higher road, and that's just damn difficult.




MyGift1 -> RE: Need to fight? (5/21/2012 9:31:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkDreems

I think your question has more context when read in conjunction with your journal entry. O/others might want to scope that out to get a better handle on where you are coming from.

This reminds Me a great deal of a discussion I had with somebody a couple of weeks ago. She was interested in the lifestyle, but also still a bit fearful of the impact it would have on her. She was used to viewing herself in vanilla terms, and having vanilla relationship expectations. It was very difficult for Me to get her to understand the qualitative nature of submission. It wasn't about submitting to what was done to her. It is an internal process. Her self-imposed mental limits were very tight, and every time she neared that boundary, she would bounce back and retain control. The experience of true submission was waiting on the opposite side of that boundary, unfortunately. I'm not talking here about having your Dominant not respect your fetish limits, I'm really talking about emotional/psychological dynamics within yourself. If you have yourself on a tighter leash than your Dominant does, then you are witholding submission, and maybe its time for some very deep self-evaluation to figure out what is holding you back.


I would really like to know, how someone will figure out what is holding her back. Reading this I kind of recognized myself. Up to now I only had vanilla relationships and I always kind of had to be the "man" and earn the money, do the rest, raise the kids, all by myself (3 kids but I felt like a mother of 4), so I learned to be dominant in a way, not really being happy in that position. Now I have a wonderful relationship with a dominant man, problem is we are miles apart, getting together is not as easy as it seems between Germany and America, we meet and we will be apart again. And sometimes I think I am going back a bit every time we are not together, so it would be nice, if someone would have an idea how I could find out more about the lifestyle I want to live with him and how to integrate it into my life here being absolutely independend and responsible for myself.




ForgetMeKnots -> RE: Need to fight? (6/25/2012 9:22:04 PM)




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I admit, I still like being 'reminded' of my place. It reassures me that I am worth his effort.




THIS!




littleone35 -> RE: Need to fight? (6/26/2012 10:16:03 AM)

I totally missed this therad.  Maybe in the very beginning i tested my boundries just the type of person i am.  Master talke dweith me and we got on the same page.  Sometimes we have disagreements  usually on plolitice  not about our relationship.  Fight no that is something we have not done.  Sometimes when we  are doing something i ask permission to struggle so he can do a take down.  If he says no to just be his good giel that i am.  As some people have said 'm  a lover not a fighter.

Matt's littleone




amaidiamond -> RE: Need to fight? (6/26/2012 11:47:15 AM)

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At the beginning of our relationship I will admit that I pushed at the boundaries, testing whether they were solid or ephemeral.

This is a response to other relationships where the dominant stopped being dominant once he'd 'won the prize'.


I have experienced a LOT of this in relationships, them not bothering anymore once they had me...

I will admit that at the start with my Owner I pushed a little once... It was not intentional, basically I was meant to ask before having a cigerette and I got stressed out and forgot... I told him and he dealt with it. I was glad he did as it meant to me he would stand by his word and if he said something, he meant it...

In regards to physical fighting... yes, we do, we both adore rough body play, wrestling, hair grabbing, pinning etc so that is a lot of our "fun" as it were.




TranceAwake -> RE: Need to fight? (7/1/2012 9:37:42 AM)

Emotional, angry, grumpy fighting? No.

There are times, however, when I will ask to be held down, so I can fight against them. It makes me happy. :)




TNDommeK -> RE: Need to fight? (7/1/2012 11:17:20 AM)

Trance, your avi is too cute.

I would say most slaves I have encountered have tried to push, which I expect. It's refreshing when they don't. I think maybe its because I don't have the whole Domme persona, I tend to be very humorous and playful, but when pushed that goes out the window and I show them what they wanted to see. Usually don't have that problem anymore. If I do, like Steven said, I rethink the relationship. I feel a slave should want to submit and be controlled before anything else.




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