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mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:37:59 PM)

the dead short with light beyond it. fact no better than your r=0 or why doesn't he get electrocuted, or the electric car or any number of things.



Politesub53 -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:39:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I will repeat the question:


good so you seem to know the difference between series and parallel, now if you have a constant voltage 240v supply (which is what the power line is), is it possible to wire them up in parallel and get full brightness?

Then what happens when you replace one bulb with a short, hence shorting the other bulb?

feel free to answer the same question I just asked for the 10,000th time, why does the lamp light in the tesla circuit but not in yours


Point one....My example was regards 2 240v lamps across a 415v supply. I answered you like for like.

Point two.....Two 240v lamps in series across a 240v supply would glow at half brightness. If you strung a load of lamps across in parallel, eventually they would become a bit like you..........Very fucking dim.

Point three......Thats down to, and this goes back to an earlier point.......voltage drop. This occurs since each additional lamp drains the circuit. The thicker the cable used for connecting the circuit, the less resistance in the cable, so the more you could put in on circuit before they dim.




Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:42:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No, exactly, it is high school level physics. has been said since the outset.

the resistance of a dead short is not 0 it is extremely high.


yer boner, prosecution rests.


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


Ron beat me too it....... I am glad someone understands the basics.





well I just figgered you enjoy making a fool out of yourself on a regular basis.

why stop now.



Politesub53 -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:44:31 PM)

Ive yet to see anything proving me wrong, only more bullshit about mythical free electricity of a poxy ariel stuck in the back yard. Even your sock says it wont power a house, which was your original claim.



mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:47:34 PM)

well I just figgered you enjoy making a fool out of yourself on a regular basis.

why stop now.

You are unknowledgeable in every human endeavor.   Explain the electric stove. 

You seem to thrive on foolish and imbecilic nothingness.

And we've caught you again in another lie, you claimed to be a welder once, which has been repeatedly demonstrated is impossible.




Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:51:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I will repeat the question:


good so you seem to know the difference between series and parallel, now if you have a constant voltage 240v supply (which is what the power line is), is it possible to wire them up in parallel and get full brightness?

Then what happens when you replace one bulb with a short, hence shorting the other bulb?

feel free to answer the same question I just asked for the 10,000th time, why does the lamp light in the tesla circuit but not in yours


Point one....My example was regards 2 240v lamps across a 415v supply. I answered you like for like.

The parameters of my challenge back to you however used a CONSTANT VOLTAGE SOURCE of 240 volts, see that means that no matter how many lights you hang on it, it will NEVER DIM. admit it you are not a lineman! or even an electrician for that matter

Point two.....Two 240v lamps in series across a 240v supply would glow at half brightness. If you strung a load of lamps across in parallel, eventually they would become a bit like you..........Very fucking dim.

I did not say a "load of lamps" I said 2 lamps. english your second laanguage too?

Point three......Thats down to, and this goes back to an earlier point.......voltage drop. This occurs since each additional lamp drains the circuit. The thicker the cable used for connecting the circuit, the less resistance in the cable, so the more you could put in on circuit before they dim.

on a 3/8ths copper tube only 3 feet long? are you fucking ok?
shall I call the paramedics for you



here I will repeat my question and maybe you can get it right this time. Have ron translate it for you LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I will repeat the question:


good so you seem to know the difference between series and parallel, now if you have a constant voltage 240v supply (which is what the power line is), is it possible to wire them up in parallel and get full brightness?

Then what happens when you replace one bulb with a short, hence shorting the other bulb?

feel free to answer the same question I just asked for the 10,000th time, why does the lamp light in the tesla circuit but not in yours



Politesub53 -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:53:31 PM)

I take it you dont mean me as a welder, but yeah, electric welding should go some way to proving things that short out have enough voltage to cause heat. If he really knew about OHMs law it was originally about electrical energy and heat anyhow.

He didnt even notice that in his own link showing the guy with his hand in the water, the presenter says dont try this at home as it will kill you.



mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:54:20 PM)

it does not light in the tesla circuit. 



mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:56:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I take it you dont mean me as a welder, but yeah, electric welding should go some way to proving things that short out have enough voltage to cause heat. If he really knew about OHMs law it was originally about electrical energy and heat anyhow.

He didnt even notice that in his own link showing the guy with his hand in the water, the presenter says dont try this at home as it will kill you.



You were in line, 0ne claimed he was a welder once but could not identify cutting dross, a heavy piece of metal bent in a circle at build time from a twisted one nor does he understand welding or electric stoves apparently.



Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 4:57:53 PM)

Dont worry, it washes off.
You 2 will survive!
[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/crap_hits_the_fan-2194.gif[/image]




Politesub53 -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:00:24 PM)

its like dealing with a child RO.

if you had just two lamps across a constant 240v supply in series they wouldnt glow at full brightness, that included in the post you read.

If you had two in parallel they would glow at full brightness, I never suggested otherwise. Now if the supply transformer was a great enough distance away, they would dim..... I wonder why ?

Any clearer for you.

BTW, I am an electrical contractor, not a linesman.



mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:02:37 PM)

But you would understand R=0 to be an open circuit in your country as well right? Or are the physics different?




mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:04:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Dont worry, it washes off.
You 2 will survive!
[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/crap_hits_the_fan-2194.gif[/image]




thank god, as often as you cover yourself with it....



Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:06:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I take it you dont mean me as a welder, but yeah, electric welding should go some way to proving things that short out have enough voltage to cause heat. If he really knew about OHMs law it was originally about electrical energy and heat anyhow.

He didnt even notice that in his own link showing the guy with his hand in the water, the presenter says dont try this at home as it will kill you.



common disclaimer since there are so many tards out there who will plug themselves into the mains then cry a river that they were electrocuted.

well if you prefer to use E and conductivity route lets do it ringo!

dont need to be to brite to know the fucking results are the same.

but be my guest restate your question in those terms.

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mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:07:47 PM)

He doesnt have a question, since he knows two things.  Electricity, and that you are devoid of answers in any case.



Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:07:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But you would understand R=0 to be an open circuit in your country as well right? Or are the physics different?





this is precious!

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mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:09:08 PM)

And even more so because it is has the attribute of factual.



Politesub53 -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:14:04 PM)

Yes an open circuit is zero resistance here too.



mnottertail -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:16:58 PM)

Fascinating, it seemed to me like Real0ne thought it meant dead short somewhere, have you checked the electricity in NorthUmbria?  Does it hold locally?  I am near belief that it might hold globally, and dare I say, universally. 

Cuz my wiggie (do you have wiggington circuit testers there?) would seem to agree with Englands (if you could just check North Umbria).



Real0ne -> RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? (8/21/2012 5:22:02 PM)

ok look, open R = infinite, dead short is R = 0.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Yes an open circuit is zero resistance here too.


there is only one thing more fun that one tard its 2 tards!


Now we are forced to leave high school physics and go to grade school electricity!

What is the resistance of a closed switch,open circuit and short circuit?


Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
A closed switch directly connects two points in the circuit. It's as though there is a wire between the two points. That is the same as a short circuit between the two points. Although there is a very small (minute) amount of resistance in the wire and switch contacts, for all practical purposes, the resistance of a closed switch and of a short circuit is zero.

The resistance of an open circuit would be very large, theoretically infinite.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090924075659AA3mScM



here how about some grade school electricity?


REVIEW:

Resistance is the measure of opposition to electric current. (ie hi resistance = hi opposition = lots of resistance, not zero resistance)

A short circuit is an electric circuit offering little or no resistance to the flow of electrons. Short circuits are dangerous with high voltage power sources because the high currents encountered can cause large amounts of heat energy to be released.

An open circuit is one where the continuity has been broken by an interruption in the path for electrons to flow. (extremely high resistance)

A closed circuit is one that is complete, with good continuity throughout.

A device designed to open or close a circuit under controlled conditions is called a switch.

The terms "open" and "closed" refer to switches as well as entire circuits. An open switch is one without continuity: electrons cannot flow through it.

A closed switch is one that provides a direct (low resistance) path for electrons to flow through.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_1/5.html


dont quit your day dreams, I mean job





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