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AngelOfSilence -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/17/2012 6:06:21 AM)

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Have any of you mused similarly?
Only the less educated among us.




Pyramus -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/18/2012 9:35:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AngelOfSilence

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Have any of you mused similarly?
Only the less educated among us.


Key educated free thinkers are those who ponder what is, what was, and what will be, based on their inherent relationships.

I'm curious why you feel musing is only for the proletariat?




Char2688 -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/18/2012 11:41:51 AM)

Birds have to fly
Fish have to swim
Subs have to serve

People are hard wired to act the way they act
No one teaches you to want to play with tits
You just want to
People who want to suck cock, just want to
They need taught not to drag their teeth
But they don't need taught to have the desire

Submissives are the same way, well at least some/most
It is hard wired, like a migration instinct




JanahX -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/18/2012 12:12:55 PM)

What does forced slavery and consensual slavery have to do with one another - and how do you learn from this?

- No I have not "MUSED" on this subject - since they have nothing to do with one another except the words. The context and situation is completely different.

Im a sub because I want to be. My for bearers were Injuns. You know why Indians wernt slaves? Because they would of rather died than be enslaved - your theory holds no water.




lizi -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/18/2012 3:00:35 PM)

This doesn't really hold much water, if you are going back as far as Roman time there would be far too much intermixing between slave owners and slaves to make someone completely one thing or the other. Everyone on the earth by now is going to have some of both. Even if your family culture is not intermixed at all, say someone's family is French and have never intermarried with another culture, who is to say that every French person in the family were the pillagers and not the pillaged? How could you possibly take after one side or the other if they were intertwined?

My ancestors on one side are Gypsy's, they have been fiercely persecuted throughout history and yet are independent of other cultures to the point where they reject a traditional lifestyle. How would you even begin to try to classify them as masters or slaves as far as personality or cultural mores? Yes, they've been enslaved, but also live a life of fierce independence. You could never convince me that some past enslavement and persecution have contributed in any way to a general wiring of that culture's people.

I mean really, hasn't every culture in the world been underneath another at some point in time? How do you even begin to classify then if they are masters or slaves? Even the example you gave, Rome, fell to invaders. So the slave owners probably became slaves at that point.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/18/2012 5:17:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: submaleuk12

What if someone is born with a leadership and strong personality but are forced by parents or older siblings to be submissive?


Ted Turner was.

(And that's often what happens).




AngelOfSilence -> RE: Reflections on the product of countless millenia of Masters & slaves in history & what it means now (5/19/2012 9:54:18 AM)

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I'm curious why you feel musing is only for the proletariat?
It wasn't that you mused, but what you mused.




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