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twicehappy -> Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 5:17:17 AM)

I ran across this this morning and found i agreed with most of it. I did remove some of the longer parts to shorten the post. How many of you agree or differ with  any or all this and why?
 
This is not a diatribe against everyone in the BDSM community. I've met some very cool, very intelligent people in the scene, and many of these people I count among my friends.But there are also quite a number of people I've encountered who are about as much fun as a toothache. To wit:
The "7th Level Antler-Headed Yak Boy (fourth house, nineteenth tax district)" types.

These are the guys (and they're almost always men) who form elaborate societies with intricate rules and protocols, and give themselves incredibly flowery titles (which they insist on using to refer to themselves, and may insist that others use as well) to boot.

There's nothing wrong with any of that. The problem comes from the idea that once you've mastered someone's list of rules, probably yanked from some old pulp science-fiction novel, that you've mastered all the intricities of domination and submission, and you're now fit to rule the world or some damn thing. You haven't; you've just memorized someone else's rules. D/s is arguably one of the most complex forms of all human relationships, and it's different for everyone--something that works for one person doesn't apply to another. Mastering one set of protocols no more makes you an expert than mastering macaroni and cheese makes you a five-star chef.

The pathologically insecure.

These people often refer to themselves exclusively as "Master (or Mistress) Thus-and Such," and are more than happy to describe you exactly, in great deal, how and why they've mastered the fine art of BDSM, and why you should be grateful to sit at their feet and pick up such crumbs of arcane knowledge they see fit to provide.

Disagree with them, even about something minor, and the entire elaborate facade built to protect their insecurities comes crashing down. You have not seen histronics until you've suggested to such a person that perhaps there's some element of D/s he hasn't considered.

Hint: Being a master is like being enlightened. If you have to tell people that you are--you aren't.
The Domly Doms.

These guys--and again, they're almost always guys--self-identify as alpha males; they strut, they preen, they impress one another with the size of their stables of submissives. Their submissives never stick around for long; the stables rotate, because at the end of the day, interspecies dating never works. It's just too damn hard for a human submissive to maintain a romance with a peacock.
The Wannabe Doms.

You can find these people all over the Internet--and, for a change, they're not mostly men. These people appear to be equal-opportunity offenders, and I've encountered about as many women as men who fall into this role.

These are the ones who believe that because they consider themselves dominant, the rest of the world should too. Many of them are often poorly socialized as well, which is quite a double-whammy.

You can spot 'em right away. They're the ones who, upon learning that someone is a submissive, immediately demand that that person be submissive to them. They're the ones who open a conversation with a submissive they've only just met with "You will call me Master and you will learn to worship me." They seem to see submissives as commodities, not as people, and begin every encounter with the idea that every submissive in the world will submit to them because, hey, they're Doms, right?

Hint: Respect is earned, not automatic. If you want a submissive to respect you, first prove that you deserve it. The people you see in the community, the people you see at play parties, who command widespread respect? They earned it. And by the way, just because someone is a submissive, that does not automatically mean he or she should submit to you. If you don't even know this person's name and have not yet established any kind of relationship whatsoever with this person, assuming you deserve this person's submission is a bit premature, wanker. Submissives exist for more than your own fantasy fulfillment!


The Desperate Subbies.

These are the flip side of the wannabe doms--the people who're so desperate to find a dominant that they'll stick anyone into that slot. Upon learning that someone is a dom, the Desperate Subbiess immediately assume that this person will automatically want to dominate them, and will run up to anyone they see who even remotely looks the least little bit dominant with "Oh, Master, I'm desperate to serve you!"

In some extreme cases, these people cross the line from annoying to outright self-destructive, as they'll sometimes abandon even basic concerns for safety and self-preservation in their attempts to find someone, anyone, to dominate them. Fortunately, Desperate Subbies are rare, and can be spotted from a mile away. Unfortunately, Desperate Subbies occasionally become statistics.

Hint: The relationship between a dominant and a submissive is a partnership. Even when it's a transient partnership, like at a play party, it's still a partnership. Don't go pledging your submission to someone until after you've determined that he or she is interested in you, and for God's sake, don't go pledging your submission to someone you don't even know, or to everyone you meet who seems the least bit interested in you. Dominants are people, not fantasy fulfillment objects...and every now and then, a person who calls himself a dominant isn't actually a dominant at all, but a predator who sees you as the prey, you know? Getting to know someone before you submit to him or her is a very good strategy to avoid becoming a statistic.
                           by Franklin Veaux            ( The credit is as required to use this material)




sabswife -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 5:28:25 AM)

i agree with it all -- in regards to the "pathologically insecure"  i guess point blank if you are comfortable with yourself and know who you are, why feel the need to defend and prove it? 




FirmhandKY -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 5:37:32 AM)

Fortunately, Desperate Subbies are rare, and can be spotted from a mile away.

Rare?

Not as common as Wannabe doms, but "rare" isn't an adjective that I would use.  I think they are a lot more common than "rare".

FHky




twicehappy -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 5:39:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Fortunately, Desperate Subbies are rare, and can be spotted from a mile away.

Rare?

Not as common as Wannabe doms, but "rare" isn't an adjective that I would use.  I think they are a lot more common than "rare".


I find both are equally common, i think how you view this particular issue is skewed by whether you are a dom looking for a sub or a sub looking for a dom.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 6:13:25 AM)

I think Screw the Roses has the best summation of the humorous "types" of doms and subs, complete with illustrations.




mistoferin -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 6:30:04 AM)

Yup, I agree. The first three examples, although the first is the prime example of why I don't personally believe that new submissives should be mentored by "one". What they come away with is then only one persons rules, protocols and ideas of what this lifestyle encompasses.




NCSilverWolves -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 8:48:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Yup, I agree. The first three examples, although the first is the prime example of why I don't personally believe that new submissives should be mentored by "one". What they come away with is then only one persons rules, protocols and ideas of what this lifestyle encompasses.


I agree Erin... upon being brought into the life...I had but one mentor. My first Master. After so many years with him.... not learning anything from anyone else. Upon his death...I didn't know anything but his way. I found myself  looking for his replacement...so to speak. With the help of a few others.... I found out there was other ways of being submissive... strong... indepenent.... (being a bitch just came natural...lol)




kittinSol -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 9:04:49 AM)

Not only was this a hilarious post, it was totally spot-on too. Where did you find this?! The first part about the 'elaborate societies' and how they were inspired by 'old pulp novels' (without mentionning which, and that's the really clever part, because we all know what's being referred to here) particularly struck a chord with me. Had a few encounters with people from other planets (ahem) and they were amusing at best, terribly sad at worst.

The rest is well worth reading too. Thank you :-)




OedipusRexIt -> RE: Things about bdsm that may drive you nuts. (6/6/2006 9:12:41 AM)

Absolutely hilarious, as most truths are!

"interspecies dating never works"  - I actually did laugh, out loud.

I would only add that these truths are expandable to the vanilla universe, as our community here is only a subset of that.

Thanks for the laugh and the wisdom too.




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