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Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 5:16:45 PM

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http://www.nationalmemo.com/not-a-joke-bush-to-release-book-on-economic-growth/

In other bush news......he just endorsed Mitt...

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 5:37:24 PM

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Well ... he's literally done everything to this country's economy you're not supposed to do. He can write expertly on the art of SHIPWRECKING GROWTH ... The article never explicitly mentions Bush's Book is about strategies for POSITIVE Economic Growth.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 5:39:57 PM

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Then again, he could claim he knows about generating positive growth and do a sequel on LYING.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 6:16:06 PM

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Unlike Dreams Of My Father? You guys might wanna look at the NUMBERS before making fun of Bush, because you look like fools.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 6:31:31 PM

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Unlike Dreams Of My Father? You guys might wanna look at the NUMBERS before making fun of Bush, because you look like fools.

Given that accurate math ain't even close to your strong suit. I'll go with what I know you are incapable of doing....
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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 6:40:38 PM

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The biggest bills arriving at the end of the war... And REPUBLICANS CONTROLLING THE SPENDING.

Even idiots can't have it BOTH. I believe in your last diatribe you insinuated that Obama's budgets get voted down. The house being responsible for said budgets and the chart's truly severe climb corresponding with the period for which the REPUBLICAN HOUSE has been responsible for the budget. You're smart-ass name-calling yet again FAILS... and you're YET AGAIN GOING NOWHERE WITH YOUR ASSERTIONS

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 7:28:42 PM

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/

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Bush 1/20/2001 132,469,000 133,549,000 1,080,000 1%
Obama* 1/20/2009 133,549,000 *130,462,000 -3,087,000 -2%
3.4 million: The loss of jobs since President Barack Obama took office in January 2009. If the loss holds through his presidency, it would mark the first time since the data became available that the country lost jobs during the full tenure of a president.

1.1 million: The number of jobs gained under President George W. Bush, the smallest job growth for any president completing at least one term. The seasonally adjusted jobs number fell in each of Bush's last 12 months in office as 4.4 million jobs were lost.

22.7 million: The number of jobs gained under President Clinton, the biggest job growth of any president.

Update: The Obama numbers in the chart below have been updated with October 2010 employment estimates.

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2010/10/us_job_growth_and_loss_under_p.html

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 8:03:55 PM

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I accept your confession that you can't understand the principals I advanced to you (AND FOR FREE I MIGHT ADD).
So explain to me how the budget that Congress Has been spitting at us in chunks ever since the republicans adopted their scorched earth policy in regard to compromise cooperative legislating and the increases caused by that which you keep agreeing to by posting this particular data, leaves Obama as the person holding the bag. There is an answer. But i doubt a guy who cuts and pastes with no concept of what he's really providing and then hurls the usual pathetic personal attacks, will ever be able to articulate it.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 8:08:55 PM

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Really Rob... You don't see the obvious problem here?

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 8:26:37 PM

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The House of Representatives controls the purse strings, Rob.

It can't happen without Republicans refusing to address real problems.

In this area, all partisans are full of shit. Any independent analysis will show the same. Want to fix the deficit/debt?
1) Cut spending, including defense
2) Adjust SS and Medicaid
3) Raise taxes.

All three. Anything else is window dressing.

We aren't broke. We just don't want to pay for things. That means deficits.

I was asked when they were proposed what I thought of the Bush tax cuts, and I said "We'll be paying for this for 20 years." Here we are. Now with Obama's FICA cut compromise with the Republicans on top of it.

Cutting revenue doesn't magically create new money. It hasn't ever, starting with when Reagan tried it and quadrupled the debt instead in just 8 years.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 9:23:32 PM

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I was asked when they were proposed what I thought of the Bush tax cuts, and I said "We'll be paying for this for 20 years." Here we are. Now with Obama's FICA cut compromise with the Republicans on top of it.

You're on the money with all of the remarks in your post. I just wanted to comment on one aspect. We came into the recession on the Bush tax cuts and to be honest, I was in the two years before things went tits up making under 100k (got divorced, got custody, no more living half my life on us air and jet blue). But I never noticed a difference in my net pay until the fica cut. Of course, before that I was so pat I wasn't truly looking. So while it did deepen the deficit. I think it was the first actual break the middle class got.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 9:40:13 PM

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I think it was the first actual break the middle class got.

And are simultaneously paying for.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 10:56:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The House of Representatives controls the purse strings, Rob.

It can't happen without Republicans refusing to address real problems.

In this area, all partisans are full of shit. Any independent analysis will show the same. Want to fix the deficit/debt?
1) Cut spending, including defense
2) Adjust SS and Medicaid
3) Raise taxes.

All three. Anything else is window dressing.

We aren't broke. We just don't want to pay for things. That means deficits.

I was asked when they were proposed what I thought of the Bush tax cuts, and I said "We'll be paying for this for 20 years." Here we are. Now with Obama's FICA cut compromise with the Republicans on top of it.

Cutting revenue doesn't magically create new money. It hasn't ever, starting with when Reagan tried it and quadrupled the debt instead in just 8 years.

I agree with you, there needs to be a minimum 20% cut across the board, I've said it many of times. It's just progressives don't wanna cut their precious social programs, and conservatives don't wanna cut their precious defense budget.

On top of that is Obama's smoke and mirror budget, which INCREASES deficit spending by 6.4 TRILLION over 10 years... It's a joke that doesn't cut shit.

What Skippy keeps turning a blind eye to is the DEMOCRATS APPROVED every penny Bush spent, just like the Republicans approved every penny Obama has spent, even though Obama has spent more in 3 years than Bush has in 8 fucking years. (some opposition there

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My other point is, Bush's economy didn't turn to shit until after the DEMOCRATS took total control of Congress in 06, yet another point that progressives turn a blind eye towards.

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RE: Author bush...Writes Comedy - 5/16/2012 11:10:18 PM

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My other point is, Bush's economy didn't turn to shit until after the DEMOCRATS took total control of Congress in 06, yet another point that progressives turn a blind eye towards.

Not so, I'm afraid. Bush's economy was a structural mess from the start. Greenspan accurately labeled the tax cuts reckless and irresponsible--and that was before adding two unfunded wars. They hoped to ride 90s profits as a basis for a fiscal plan. Pure fantasy. Two recessions during his administrations were smoothed over with monetary policy, leaving interest so low that we could no longer buy our way out of it. Obama has essentially kept Bush's policies, including the bailouts he begged for at the end of his term.

We actually AREN'T "broke," nowhere near it--but we don't want to pay for anything, and that's making our fiscal position more and more untenable. At some point, we'll be forced to pay (by circumstances); in the meantime, we keep borrowing in lieu of paying.

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