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ORIGINAL: akisha

This might be over the top but if how his hair look is that important to him... why not shave it off?  Then he wouldn't have to worry about having bed head in the morning.

Just a thought

kisha

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ORIGINAL: ArchangelMichael

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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He did it because he has issues with being vain, and didn't want to leave the house with "bed head" (his words) from showering the night before.  It was not a matter for forgetfulness.  He decided that having his hair looking good was enough of an excuse to do what he wanted.  Which really has ticked me off, not unnaturally :) 

I have a friend that went through the vanity thing.. his girl was always causing them to be late due to her "need" to get her hair and make up just so... So...he took them away from her, she wasn't allowed to wear any make, no curling the hair, no shaving the legs... nothing. This went on for about a month and he took her to the munches, out to dinner and to many places where she was terribly embarrassed over her appearance.. and no, she wasn't allowed to wear pants to cover up her unshaven legs either. (and believe me, this was one hairy girl) Yes... she did learn her lesson. I would suggest that as big of an issue the disobeying was.. an even bigger issue is the vanity. I would suggest that when he is with you that you specifically make him go out with "bed head", perhaps even wrinkled clothes... he has to learn that his pride in his appearance needs to take a back seat to your wishes. It may take doing this for a while before he understands. Granted punishment is best dealt out as soon as possible.. but lessons take time to sink in.
 
When he gets back and you decide it's time to go out... tell him it's go as you are or spend the rest of the evening standing in a corner.
 
Wishing you the best LM...
 
Jewel

Is it really vanity to want to look halfway decent? I have issues with going out when I have bedhead, too. I tend to take a long time in the shower/bathroom because I have OCD, though. It's not a vanity thing. I had more of an issue with bedhead when I worked retail. Since I'm now working in a restaurant where I have to wear a hat, I don't much care if I have bedhead. Getting to work on time is more important.

I know this thread is about punishments, but don't most Dominants want their subs to look good/decent?

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

marie too going out with out brushing your hair doesn't make a person look unkempt unless they had really unruly hair, I don't brush my hair before putting it into a pony tail and you would neverk now it wasn't brushed before hand less I told you. course joe can brush his hair and it's so thick and wild you'd never guessed he just brushed it.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo
yeah but on a man, especially if their hair is short tend to wake up with those swirls and hair going in every direction.  The impression I has was that he showered in order to wet it down good.  Anyway, my point was to say that if he has the kind of hair that cant just be tousled through with fingers, he couldve just dampened it at the sink and brushed it.  And that wouldnt have been breaking Mistress' rule. 

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: marieToo
yeah but on a man, especially if their hair is short tend to wake up with those swirls and hair going in every direction.  The impression I has was that he showered in order to wet it down good.  Anyway, my point was to say that if he has the kind of hair that cant just be tousled through with fingers, he couldve just dampened it at the sink and brushed it.  And that wouldnt have been breaking Mistress' rule. 

The other point being that he had PLENTY of time to bring up any issue he had with that rule beforehand, or any problems he thought he might encounter about it.

It may or may not have changed the dominants mind about the order, but to accept a direct order and THEN simply do what you want when no circumstances have changed from when the order was given?  Serious problem IMO and no amount of tousle or no tousle changes that.

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

Not all the punishment will be done immediately.  For instance, he is going to be scrubbing my kitchen floor with a toothbrush when he returns home.  In the meantime, however, there should be swift consequences to deliberate disobedience, to keep the infraction fresh in his mind and letting him know that he's not getting away with anything even though he is not here for me to punish right now.  I did like the suggestions above addressing the vanity issue, and he is now spending the next 5 days using no soap, shampoo or toothpaste, and not looking in the mirror, as well as some writing assignments.  He really does have gorgeous hair, and I don't want to shave it, but I was sorely tempted, I swear, just to teach him a lesson.  I did tell him that he was lucky that I liked his hair so much! 

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear LadyMorgynn, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
My question is--why does the punishment have to be done immediately?  Nothing requires an immediate punishment.  It isn't like an animal who has a brief attention span. 
 
Punishment can be exacted when he returns home.  Patience can work on your behalf as he can stew over his misdeeds for as long as you wish.
 
Kneeling on rice, bird seed--or in a squat and stay in it for a good while works nicely.  Shaving the head was mentioned but, that might be a boundary. 
 
One thing that is at a disadvantage of dominants, are the slaves/submissives who do not live on premise, on the road and such--I doubt if anybody away from the direct observation honestly applies the same punishment on themselves as you apply to them.
 
He can pay a fine, short time on the phone but, I would keep no time on the phone for drastic issues.  You always want to be able to have more severe measures on the ready.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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ORIGINAL: feastie
So, if he's getting all these punishments for this trangression, what is he going to get when he commits a really big crime?

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

He did it because he has issues with being vain, and didn't want to leave the house with "bed head" (his words) from showering the night before.  It was not a matter for forgetfulness.  He decided that having his hair looking good was enough of an excuse to do what he wanted.  Which really has ticked me off, not unnaturally :) 

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ORIGINAL: feastie
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So, if he's getting all these punishments for this trangression, what is he going to get when he commits a really big crime?

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ORIGINAL: feastie
So, if he's getting all these punishments for this trangression, what is he going to get when he commits a really big crime?

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists
In my relationship, willful disobedience of a direct order is a really big crime and can terminate the relationship. 

It doesn't matter what the order or rule is that I chose to violate, what matters is that I decided my wants were more important than the structure of our relationship.  When I consented to become his, I consented to obey him and willfully disobeying is to remove that consent and essentially removes his ownership of me.

But that is just how it works in my relationship...

Knight's kyra

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

nobody said he was getting eveyr punishment sugguested here, they;re merely suggestions.

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

Not all the punishment will be done immediately.  For instance, he is going to be scrubbing my kitchen floor with a toothbrush when he returns home.  In the meantime, however, there should be swift consequences to deliberate disobedience, to keep the infraction fresh in his mind and letting him know that he's not getting away with anything even though he is not here for me to punish right now.  I did like the suggestions above addressing the vanity issue, and he is now spending the next 5 days using no soap, shampoo or toothpaste, and not looking in the mirror, as well as some writing assignments.  He really does have gorgeous hair, and I don't want to shave it, but I was sorely tempted, I swear, just to teach him a lesson.  I did tell him that he was lucky that I liked his hair so much! 

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Since vanity was the crime, have you thought about letting vanity also be the punishment? Unless he's already fullen shaven, legs, pits and groin area take a lot of upkeep and shaving those areas may remind him that his vanity is secondary to your directives. Add some polish to the toes  (his shoes cover it so no worries about humilation in front of the other truckers if you don't want there to be) and that's a ritual that's going to take a while to complete and every time he does it, he'll be remembering why. Maybe plucking the eyebrows a bit.. different things that all speak to vanity..

bol

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: LovingSadist

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Since vanity was the crime, have you thought about letting vanity also be the punishment? Unless he's already fullen shaven, legs, pits and groin area take a lot of upkeep and shaving those areas may remind him that his vanity is secondary to your directives. Add some polish to the toes  (his shoes cover it so no worries about humilation in front of the other truckers if you don't want there to be) and that's a ritual that's going to take a while to complete and every time he does it, he'll be remembering why. Maybe plucking the eyebrows a bit.. different things that all speak to vanity..

bol

Celeste

You wicked bitches - you shouldn't be allowed to talk on this forum at all.
It must be terrible for a man to be forced to wear nailpolish on his toes - shivers.

Cheers
Loving Sadist