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LadyMorgynn -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 5:56:05 AM)

Heheheh.  Actually, I have mentioned this to him... not as any kind of punishment, but "just because" and he was thrilled and started asking about what color I wanted! ;)

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ORIGINAL: LovingSadist
You wicked bitches - you shouldn't be allowed to talk on this forum at all.
It must be terrible for a man to be forced to wear nailpolish on his toes - shivers.

Cheers
Loving Sadist






Sinergy -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 6:06:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

I want something he can do *now* while he's still hurting from my expressed displeasure (<--euphymism) and his own conscience, because he knows good and well what he did was wrong, even though he consciously chose to do it, so now he's castigating himself even worse than I did.  Drama queens! <rolling eyes>



Hello A/all,

I personally think that what a person does to themselves
when they know they have earned my displeasure is far
more horrid than anything I could do or say to them.

Limiting phone time sounds workable.  If you had plans to do
something at some future date, simply indicate to him that you
are not available and go do something else.  I feel that the down side to that is my understanding that my submissive needs my nurturing and presence, and depriving them of that is pretty much the worst thing I could do to them.  In a nutshell, they have to
really anger me to get that sort of response.

The other aspect to this is that as the Dominant, why do I need
to take time out of my life and my busy schedule to figure out
an appropriate punishment for somebody who has displeased me
to make it up to me?

What I have done in the past is to put the onus on making
restitution back on them.  They can get back to me when they
have figured out how to make it up to me.  I will say that two
approaches which will not work for me are a) having sex with
me or b) involving D/s or BDSM play time.  Punishment should
be something the person does not enjoy doing.

Just me, yadda yadda yadda.

Sinergy 




BBBTBW -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 6:06:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: akisha

This might be over the top but if how his hair look is that important to him... why not shave it off?  Then he wouldn't have to worry about having bed head in the morning.

Just a thought

kisha


I am a HUGE believer in let the punishment fit the crime.  This was the first thing I thought of when I read the first post.

In the past when a sub got mouthy with me, a good mouth washing with ivory bar soap and warm water usually did the trick, masturbation without permission--masturbate til he was raw.  Punishments that fit the crime are generally the best way to deal with things if you do not utilize capital punishment as a means to a "cure"

Ms Loren

Ms Loren




BBBTBW -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 6:17:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

Yeah, I know, but it really is gorgeous hair! Cutting it off would be a sin... it'd hurt me almost as bad as it hurt him!  LOL!  I'm saving it in reserve, hanging it over his head as a threat if he ever forgets himself again!


Completely understandable...but hair grows back...you have to weigh the pros and cons...whats more important...teaching him the lesson that his beautiful hair (the reason for his vanity in this case) is not more important than the directive you gave him.  Sometimes we as DOMINANTS have to suffer just a little to teach a lesson.  Just as a parent that has to discipline a child  (going back to the old addage, "this is going to hurt me more than it does you") it is difficult but necessary in the growth process.

Ms Loren




RavenMuse -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:13:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn
He did it because he has issues with being vain, and didn't want to leave the house with "bed head" (his words) from showering the night before.  It was not a matter for forgetfulness.  He decided that having his hair looking good was enough of an excuse to do what he wanted.  Which really has ticked me off, not unnaturally :) 


OK so his problem was vanity.... has he some articals of clothing that aren't bad enough to be 'humiliating' but that really don't suit him enough to bruise that vanity that caused him to disobay your direct instruction? Choose them for him to wear in situations where he is going to be with others. They aren't even likely to notice too much, but HE will know and feel it. Make him give up that very vanity for you. Put the vanity back where it should be, lower in importance to making you happy!

Just a suggestion.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:26:19 AM)

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Personally, I think any punishment must fit the personality of the offender.  No one here but the OP can really know what is appropriate, or how the offender might react to any of the suggestions made.  She's the only one who knows him.  If I learned the punishments my Master came up with for me were decided on by a bunch of folks online who didn't know me, I'd feel really uncertain about that.




LadyMorgynn -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:32:40 AM)

Ah, but collecting ideas and opinions is my Modus Operandi.  Not just as a Domme but in everything.  I *listen* to what others have to say, think everything over carefully, and go forth and make my own decision.  It's how I have always operated.  Also, this is my first time owning a slave (I consider that, if my worst problem to deal with is vanity the first time out, I'm doing okay! LOL!), and I don't have the experience that others, both Dominant and submissive, may have.  I am not too proud to ask for ideas, or even help if necessary, and to listen and learn from others. 

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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Personally, I think any punishment must fit the personality of the offender.  No one here but the OP can really know what is appropriate, or how the offender might react to any of the suggestions made.  She's the only one who knows him.  If I learned the punishments my Master came up with for me were decided on by a bunch of folks online who didn't know me, I'd feel really uncertain about that.




ThunderRoad -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:37:49 AM)

Have him write 1000 times "I will not disrespect Mistress or my neighbors out of vanity" and mail it to you as he completes each page.  he can do that from anywhere and do the writing when he's decompressing from driving.

Childish?  Maybe, but what he did was childish too.




RavenMuse -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:41:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
Personally, I think any punishment must fit the personality of the offender.  No one here but the OP can really know what is appropriate, or how the offender might react to any of the suggestions made.  She's the only one who knows him.  If I learned the punishments my Master came up with for me were decided on by a bunch of folks online who didn't know me, I'd feel really uncertain about that.


[:)] A suggestion is a suggestion, ideas, information, thoughts, diffrent perspectives. There is only one person making the decision when it is reacher, in this case Morgynn in respect of her boy.... that decision is likely to be not just from one source, but using all the info including what she knows of the personality of her boy, to reach the decision She considers the right one.

No man is an island.... Dom/mes are no diffrent.... Mulling over things with like minded people can sometimes point out approaches we would otherwise miss, or angles we hadn't considered, but the decision when it comes is ours alone.  Don't worry sweetie, from the impression you have given us of your Master I think I can safely say he would be the same in that regard [:)]




ownedgirlie -> RE: Non-corporal punishment (6/8/2006 7:43:47 AM)

OK, I understand where you're coming from and respect that.  I'm looking at it from the slave's point of view and have to admit I'd feel a little creepy being the topic of a discussion board thread.  [sm=whoa.gif]

Having said that, someone here mentioned he has been yours only two weeks.  I would ask, does he have a lot of, or just a little experience serving as a slave?  Did he have a clear understanding that disobedience equals disrespect and is not tolerated?  Perhaps he is also learning the significance of his submission, and its seriousness.  Perhaps he is, without even realizing, needing to know how you will handle this - too soft?  Too hard?  Somewhere in the middle?  So that he can feel his boundaries and understand where they are.  Relationships are so different in their new stages.  LOTS of tweaking and boundary checking/confirming.

I did a really stupid disobedient thing when I was first submitting to Master.  My punishment was not corporal back then, but left such an impression (because of who I was at the time) that I remember it clearly to this day, and how it made me feel.  *shuddering*

Best of luck!!!  :)





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