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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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the US has 8000 nuclear weapons in its arsenal, and the REPUBLICANS also included new nuclear weapon development in their budget, something else the Defense Department has said is not needed

How many nuclear weapons do they figure it takes?
The weapons we have today are 200 more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. Very few and the world would be inhabitable.

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It's a silly argument, though. Once we've covered the globe, how many times do we need to nuke it?

Setting aside for the moment that whatever we decide to nuke the shit out of will ruin the world for us too.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri



But, what happens if the first 7995 get destroyed before they're launched? At least we'd still have 5.

lmao

I never understood why we had to have so damn many. Maybe we could sell them to our allies. I sure nothing could go wrong with that. Nothing bad ever happens when we do shit like that.

I would support increased nuclear weapon R&D money if the R&D was about taking our current arsenal and getting re-assigning the nuclear material's use. Tell the rest of the world..."Don't fuck with us. We have 800 nuclear missiles aimed at locations around the world. We can launch them in the blink of an eye and then we can settle up in Hell."

We could sell the warheads to Russia. We won't need them. We have plenty. Let them buy thousands more. I would no longer care who had nukes. Let everyone know that the first person to set off a nuke effectively ends the world.

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He means if you leave out things like The Armed Forces.


8,000 nuclear weapons aren't adequate against Iran or N. Korea?

Damn.

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How about this for a Republican solution. We dont wait for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon, we go ahead and Launch a nuclear first strike against Iran with 4000 nukes.

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Actually, I would like to point out that Arturas and other Republicans on this board are still under the impression that the ICBM's that North Korea displayed in a military parade are real.

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They are a really fun enemy, like Wylie E Coyote.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Actually, I would like to point out that Arturas and other Republicans on this board are still under the impression that the ICBM's that North Korea displayed in a military parade are real.

Old Carpet Rolls From Monsanto and some green and red paint

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Of course, Arturas and the other Republicans are getting their proof from a six foot tall rabbit named Harvey.

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
Would you be referring to the presidents budget that was so ridiculous that even his own party didn't give it a single "yes" vote? What was that vote? 99-0? The presidential budget that failed to get a single vote in a a Congress controlled by his own party budget? Is that the budget you're carrying on about?

The left is very quick to claim that the Republicans broke the deal by passing a defense bill, but NPR didn't have the balls to mention the fact in their article that the Bamster's proposed budget was going to add something like 6.4 trillion dollars in new deficits over the next 10 years. To conservatives it sure sounds like it was the president that broke any austerity agreement by proposing something that adds new deficits to the budget... Of course libs don't seem to understand that because it doesn't fit the narrative they're trying so hard to manufacture.

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That one sucessful missle intercept is one more than Obama's record on solar power and alternative energy plans. I guess, according to you, since Obama's energy plans have no sucess, we should just forget it?

North Korea and Iran don't have missle technology to build an intercontinal missle? Have you ever heard or computer hacking and spies? They probably have plans for all of our missles already! and they can't build one? They can build bomb proof underground nuclear production facilities but are too stupid to build a missle?

We have over 8000 nuclear missles? We also have thousands of fighter jets, tanks, helicopters, all kinds of sophisticated weapons that kill, they only have old ak-47's. and improvised explosives, Yet in over 10 YEARS, it still goes on?

If they try to nuke us, and we nuked them, have you ever heard of "nuclear winter." Read about it. We would starve to death.

And finally, If you are up against a bunch of fanatics that sincerely believe that if they die for their cause, they go to "paradise with 47 virgins and all", what would prevent them from a pre-emptive strike? fear of us retalitating? ROFLMAF

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
Would you be referring to the presidents budget that was so ridiculous that even his own party didn't give it a single "yes" vote? What was that vote? 99-0? The presidential budget that failed to get a single vote in a a Congress controlled by his own party budget? Is that the budget you're carrying on about?

The left is very quick to claim that the Republicans broke the deal by passing a defense bill, but NPR didn't have the balls to mention the fact in their article that the Bamster's proposed budget was going to add something like 6.4 trillion dollars in new deficits over the next 10 years. To conservatives it sure sounds like it was the president that broke any austerity agreement by proposing something that adds new deficits to the budget... Of course libs don't seem to understand that because it doesn't fit the narrative they're trying so hard to manufacture.

You are the 'uninformed' type that ignores reality and facts in favor of Republican Party loyality. Told what to think by the 'state-run' news media, FOX News (cus your against 'free media' or Liberalis Media....oh...sorry....LIBERAL MEDIA). If you had taken the time to look into the information rather than be spoon fed soundbites and buzz words, you would have understand WHY the Democrats voted the way they did. Since I know you will never do such a think, since like other members of your philosophy, the process of 'checking information' is so time-consuming and annoying; I'll stated it for you. The President's Budget Plan for FY2013 was a few hundred pages long. The Republican's literally dumbed down the document to 99 pages., and insisted it was the President's plan all along. The ONLY group in America that bought that 'line-item-crap' were conservatives. Democrats voted it down because it was a lie and the budget did alot of things that were 'Republican-oriented'. Republicans voted it down because the original version of it came from the Office of the President (I wonder if even some of them actually read any of it?).

When stuff like this happens, it pays to do some digging to find the facts out, rather than just mindlessly accept what your told by the media. More 'rosy' good news from the Republicans. Last August (that would be August 2011), was the deadline for the new budget. Problem was, Republicans couldnt compromise on ANYTHING with the Democrats (whom were willing to do so). They literally took a 'my way or the highway' approach to the budget; they metaphorically held America hostage until they got what they wanted. Democrats did not surrender to Republicans, called their bluff and the country's rating was downgraded from AAA to AA. And WHO is responsible for getting the budget started in such a way that REGARDLESS of which party held power, of getting the budget through? The House! The House creates the bill in such a way that it would have a fair chance of passing the Senate and the Office of the President (with some minor dealings here and there). And WHO was controlling the US House of Representatives at the time? The Republican Party!

So everyone decided on the creation of....(dun, dun, DUN)...the Super Committee! The deal was simple: 'X' number of members from the House and Senate from both parties would create a budget and push it through or else bad stuff would happen. And what was the bad stuff? Well, $600 Billion (I believe the number was) would be taken from 'social and health' services (something Democrats didnt want), and the same amount from 'Defense Budget' (which Republicans REALLY didnt want). And what happened? The super committee failed to reach an agreement, straight down party lines. Democrats were annoyed that such monies would be taken out (and anger their voters), but were willing to hold up to their end fo the bargain. The Republicans....BACKED OUT....on their end of the bargain. That's right, they accepted a deal in good faith and than CHEATED on the deal. Just like they did on the final month of the Affordable Care Act (that's 'Obamacare' for you political illerates). On that bill, the Democrats asked straight up "What would have to go in this bill to gain your support?" Republicans gave ideas, Democrats changed things (effectively watering it down), and THEN, the Republicans VOTED AGAINST IT!

Now, in all honesty, would you truthfully handle future business dealings with an organization that seems to routinely renege on business deals? Apparently you do, because you VOTE FOR THEM! I'm fine with you bashing the Democrats and the President, so long as two things are true:

1) You are civilized, mature, and behave like an educated adult (rather than a 6th grader).
2) You hold the party (or individuals) you voted for to TWICE the level of accountability and responsibility as you slam the other party (or persons).

And I know your not doing either, based on your comments.