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MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:52:44 PM)

Buy dehydro in bulk, even cheaper and won't get e-coli from the clerk




LadyPact -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:55:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

I can go to sprouts (grocer 4 miles from the house) Buy a broccoli crown, 12oz of chicken, two russet potatoes and 2 apples for 6$ and feed me and my wife a nutricious non-fried meal....I can't get 2 value meals at Mc D's for that.....I know I do the cooking


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(this is all based on proper portions for a healthy calorie dinner)

OK.  So, after your full day at work, are you going to walk that four miles, each way?  Do you happen to work mids or night shifts?  Maybe you'll use public transportation instead, because you might just be taking little children with you.  If you don't have a pass, and have to pay for the bus instead, you have to add that price into the cost of the meal.




PeonForHer -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:55:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

BS, eating from the grocery store is always cheaper---get off your ass and cook


It is, but when I was broke as a student, I'd get vegetable oil, fish and potatoes from the shops and cook fish and chips, drowned in oil. That's always a cheap option here in the UK. Seriously, that instinct to go for fats really does just cut in. It makes sense that it does so, too. You can see it everywhere in the natural world.

(As a by-the-way, when the UK fought Germany in WW1, a large number of the Brit conscripts were undernourished. The dish of fish and chips changed all that - both ingredients were dirt cheap because they were so plentiful. The German soldiers didn't have that and were generally less nourished than the UK's soldiers. Some have actually said that fish and chips actually won us that war. Watched a documentary on it once. Very interesting.)




littlewonder -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:56:20 PM)

I dunno. I think cooking healthy meals can be cheaper if you are conscious of how to prepare foods. For example, you could buy a cheaper type of meat at the store which could last you an entire week depending on how you prepare it. I mean you go to McDonalds and buy a salad that costs almost $6 when you can make one at home for less than a dollar and the ingredients can last you entire week or feed a family of 4 in one day.

Here in Baltimore they hired a woman that they call the "food czar". Basically she holds programs for the poor to teach them how to eat more healthy and save money. They also have co-ops now that are for the poor so they can be more healthy because they noticed that the majority of Baltimore is obese.

They also now have community gardens in almost every community where you can grow your own foods. I see a lot of poor people taking advantage of this in the city.




mnottertail -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:57:13 PM)

if I was somehow stranded somewhere without any shelter or equipment, I could make it if I had a tablespoon and a can of shortening (pure fat)  long time and plenty good.




MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:57:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: MileHighM

I can go to sprouts (grocer 4 miles from the house) Buy a broccoli crown, 12oz of chicken, two russet potatoes and 2 apples for 6$ and feed me and my wife a nutricious non-fried meal....I can't get 2 value meals at Mc D's for that.....I know I do the cooking


EDIT:
(this is all based on proper portions for a healthy calorie dinner)

OK.  So, after your full day at work, are you going to walk that four miles, each way?  Do you happen to work mids or night shifts?  Maybe you'll use public transportation instead, because you might just be taking little children with you.  If you don't have a pass, and have to pay for the bus instead, you have to add that price into the cost of the meal.



Same is true about the price if you drive through Mc D's-----I can go to the grocery store once a week, and cut my cost----So maybe spread 5$ in trip cost over 15 meals---not too fucking bad




BitaTruble -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 5:58:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

I can go to sprouts (grocer 4 miles from the house) Buy a broccoli crown, 12oz of chicken, two russet potatoes and 2 apples for 6$ and feed me and my wife a nutricious non-fried meal....I can't get 2 value meals at Mc D's for that.....I know I do the cooking


EDIT:
(this is all based on proper portions for a healthy calorie dinner)

Don't forget to factor in the other non-food costs of cooking. Pots, pans, spices, electricity, rent, plates, utensils, appliances etc. all add pennies, nickles and dimes.





MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:05:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: MileHighM

I can go to sprouts (grocer 4 miles from the house) Buy a broccoli crown, 12oz of chicken, two russet potatoes and 2 apples for 6$ and feed me and my wife a nutricious non-fried meal....I can't get 2 value meals at Mc D's for that.....I know I do the cooking


EDIT:
(this is all based on proper portions for a healthy calorie dinner)

Don't forget to factor in the other non-food costs of cooking. Pots, pans, spices, electricity, rent, plates, utensils, appliances etc. all add pennies, nickles and dimes.




Spread out over hundreds of meals---not a significant factor.....One reason I lost weight was from cooking at home making better descisions as a result, as a bonus we cut monthly expenses by 300$

RENT?!?!?!!? R U Fing kidding, that is not part of the meal cost, unless you intend on being homeless---Electricity: you won't spend more than 10$ month on all your meals unless you are doing all gourmet shit. Some people are using the cast iron pots their great grand parents used, you just have to be smart about it.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:06:24 PM)

And feeding children is a whole other world.

Where do you live where food is so cheap? That chicken, broc and potatoes would be $20 in my neighborhood.




outhere69 -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:06:51 PM)

Don't forget the "food deserts". When I lived in downtown San Jose there was 1, count 'em, one grocery store. I shit you not. There are none in downtown Dayton. Community gardens would be great in Dayton due to demolition of abandoned houses.

BTW, in the midst of all the witch-hunting of smokers (c'mon, no smoking in your own damn car on company property?) and fat folks, the obesity rate's been level since 1999. Wouldn't know it from the news.

Amazing how a disability thread promptly became a fat thread. You'd think we were in Fet Life Rants, where fat threads are on Tuesdays.




MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:07:55 PM)

So it is only the fast food companies fault we are all fat?????????????? Wrong!!!!!! Its cause we would rather spend money on cable TV than healthy food, that's AHMuRicA for you.




mnottertail -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:09:02 PM)

I dont know what this got to do with anything, fatboys and fatgirls are not a minority, they are the majority of the American public.





MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:10:01 PM)

Obesity is being seen as a disability




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:10:05 PM)

So...cable TV causes disabilitites?

A little late evening conflation for you.




littlewonder -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:11:28 PM)

I just remember growing up, we were poor...no running water, no heat, electricity from time to time and we never once ever ate fast food. Food was given to us by the church, at work dad would be given dented cans and open bags of flour and sugar, etc...and we had a small garden in the back. We always seemed to be able to make food go very very far. And there were 7 of us total in the house.




MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:12:17 PM)

With your logic---sure it does




mnottertail -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:13:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

Obesity is being seen as a disability


disability and minority are entirely different concepts and have been for some time, thats why they arent spelled or pronounced the same way in any dictionary that has ever been written, you see.




MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:15:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

And feeding children is a whole other world.

Where do you live where food is so cheap? That chicken, broc and potatoes would be $20 in my neighborhood.

Stop shopping at Whole-paycheck-foods and go slumming




MileHighM -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:16:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

Obesity is being seen as a disability


disability and minority are entirely different concepts and have been for some time, thats why they arent spelled or pronounced the same way in any dictionary that has ever been written, you see.



Read the thread---it is all about disabled people as a growing minority




mnottertail -> RE: Minorities (5/22/2012 6:21:07 PM)

How about you read the thread.   fat people are not disabled legally are they?   Unless they are some big old shit like bruddah iz, the best part of them are fat, not disabled.  That is an argumentum nonextant.




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