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kalikshama -> "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/27/2012 6:50:22 AM)

Executive summary - "natural" is a meaningless marketing term; buy organic to avoid genetically modified soy and corn.

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Kashi cereal's 'natural' claims stir anger

Kellogg is facing anger on social-media sites because of complaints that its popular Kashi brand of cold cereals doesn't live up to the company's "natural" billing on ads and boxes.

The controversy went viral a week ago after a Rhode Island grocer tacked a note to one of his store shelves, telling customers he wouldn't sell the cereal because he found out the brand used genetically engineered, non-organic ingredients. Photos of the note began popping up on Facebook pages and food blogs as some consumers claimed Kellogg was misrepresenting its cereal.

The soy in Kashi cereals comes from soybeans that have had a gene inserted to protect the soybeans from the herbicide Roundup, which kills weeds.

Kashi has done nothing wrong, says David DeSouza, Kashi general manager. "The FDA has chosen not to regulate the term 'natural,' " he says. The company defines natural as "food that's minimally processed, made with no artificial colors, flavors, preservatives or sweeteners."

Still, some consumers say they felt duped into believing the cereal was organic and free from genetically modified ingredients because of Kellogg's use of the word on packaging and its website.

They've taken to the digital streets with their anger, posting on Kashi's own Facebook page, as well as the pages of several organic cereal makers and organic stores.

Kellogg is not misleading people, says Barbara Haumann of the Organic Trade Association in Brattleboro, Vt. Consumers "are totally confused" and don't understand that the only way to get organic food is to buy organic, she says.

The shelf tag wasn't meant "to stir up trouble or cause controversy," says John Wood, owner of The Green Grocer, in Portsmouth, R.I. Wood is the grocer who posted the note.

He made the decision to remove Kashi after reading a report about what "natural" means in the cereal aisle by the Cornucopia Institute, an organic and agriculture policy group.

Many posters on the Kashi site seemed especially angry about the presence of genetically engineered soy in some of its cereals. One wrote that by marketing its products as whole foods and healthy, but choosing genetically engineered soybeans as an ingredient, the company had destroyed people's trust in its product.

DeSouza says consumers who want clear guidance about genetically modified ingredients can look to U.S. organic regulations, which prohibit their use in products called "organic."

Kellogg got itself into trouble by "not being entirely transparent," says Roger Nyhus, president of Nyhus Communications in Seattle. He sees a trend among some companies "of fudging language to allay consumer concerns and jump on the green bandwagon, and I think it's starting to backfire."

Consumers drawn to a "natural" marketing message could also have their anger fueled by a sense that they were buying from a "small, pure" company, says consultant Pam Danziger, president of Unity Marketing in Stevens, Pa. "They disdain large corporate entities," and now they find that Kashi "is, in fact, part of this big multinational conglomerate."

Kashi's DeSouza says that by 2015, all new Kashi products will "contain at least 70% USDA organic certified ingredients."




tj444 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 2:40:25 PM)

I wonder what they used before Kashi was bought by Kellogs.. if they used gmo soybeans before the buyout or if kellogs changed that once they bought the company.. hmmmm..




kalikshama -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:08:03 PM)

Kashi Cereal Food Fight Shows We're Frustrated With Empty Labels

From the comments:

Kashi is most definitely NOT being unfairly targeted... They have a similar story to Burt's Bees, they started out a good companies with good products, established a good rep and name for themselves, and then were bought out by larger companies that don't give a darn about natural or organic. These companies know they can use the once trusted brand to hock their junky products to unsuspecting consumers who thinks that brands are safe. Kellogg’s could have chosen to keep Kashi the same, but they didn't because they knew they could make a ton of money by charging more for the cheeper GMO ingredients, slapping a natural label on the box, and riding the gravy train until the brand lost all meaning... If you currently use products like Burt's bees or Kashi, STOP!!! Don't ever buy them again, they are not the same products. They are imposters, shams, snake oil, phonies, tools of the con trade that are tricking you out your hard earned money that should be spent on products that deserve your financial vote. Shop smart, stay smart, and expect any brand to change at any time.




kalikshama -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:12:31 PM)

From the comments on Kashi's NON-GMO Project page. (Note: as only 7 of Kashi's 80 products are GMO-free, this page is more green-washing.)

http://www.kashi.com/nongmo

...You say, “The scientific community has not established a causative link between GMOs and any impact on human health.” That’s hardly surprising when political appointees (often former employees of Monsanto) headed USDA, FDA and EPA (still do), and ruled that foods produced by the “relative new science” of genetic engineering are equivalent to the foods developed through natural breeding over millennia—and therefore don’t require labeling or testing. Yet it was revealed in a lawsuit that even the government’s own scientists warned that these novel foods should be tested. And now they are being tested, in a truly frightening manner, by the biggest group of Guinea pigs on earth…the American people! And with no labeling, many Americans are still unaware of this.

You also lament “factors outside our control, such as pollen drift from nearby crops and current practices in agricultural storage, handling, and shipping [have led] to an environment in North America where GMOs are not sufficiently segregated. As a result, some of our foods may contain GMOs.” Are we supposed to believe that a big conglomerate like Kellogg’s is just a poor hapless victim of outside factors? That you never actively purchased GMO crops, that it was pollen drift that caused your soy (see cornucopia.org ) to test 100% GMO! Nonsense! If giant corporations like Kellogg’s—and the companies they acquire like Kashi—had not knowingly bought GMOs and quietly slipped them into our food supply without labeling, this outrageous situation that you claim is “outside your control” would never have become so severe. And now you want to blame pollen drift and agricultural practices for all your problems. No way! Put the blame where it belongs.

Blame yourself, Kellogg’s, for calling roundup ready soy inserted with bacterial and viral genes and antibiotic markers “natural.” Blame your greed for calling Kashi “natural” when your own market research must have told you most people thought it meant no pesticides or GMOs—some even thought it meant organic. Surely you knew that, but then you insult us by concocting your own ridiculous definition of the word.

Kellogg’s, you knowingly deceived us. I believe that calling Kashi “natural” was a deliberate effort on your part to “green-wash” GMO soy in the name of profits. It was a lie. How can we trust your products now? I will never again buy Kashi as long as Kellogg’s continues to peddle unlabeled GMOs in its other products. Only companies as large as Kellogg’s can turn around the awful situation they helped create. If Kellogg’s demands non-GMOs from farmers, farmers will grow them.

Read more: http://www.kashi.com/nongmo




Karmastic -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:16:55 PM)

thanks for posting this kalikshama - it's nice to see consumer advocates are making a small dent in corporate greed and dishonesty.




sophia37 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:21:45 PM)

Now wait a minute. By now consumers should know the word "natural" does not mean organic. So far I dont see where Kellogg did anything wrong by calling Kashi a natural cereal. Not that Ive had any Kashi of late. Tried it a few times but it wasn't tasty. I'd rather eat corn pops even. lol. That falls under Natural as well I'm sure.




Karmastic -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:25:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sophia37

Now wait a minute. By now consumers should know the word "natural" does not mean organic. So far I dont see where Kellogg did anything wrong by calling Kashi a natural cereal. Not that Ive had any Kashi of late. Tried it a few times but it wasn't tasty. I'd rather eat corn pops even. lol. That falls under Natural as well I'm sure.

i think the point is, consumers don't know the difference.

i know the difference myself between natural and organic, but didn't know natural could include GMOs.

and i incorrectly presumed that a brand like kashi didn't use GMOs, which certainly are not "natural" in any sense of the word. yes, i was misled, regardless of whether or not i am a stupid consumer (i suppose i am a stupid consumer in many aspects, not being informed as i should).




sophia37 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:29:07 PM)

Hm, Im not 100% sure there is a lot of non modified grains left. I live in farm country. The fields all have modified grains.




Karmastic -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:31:37 PM)

thank you for informing me, i didn't realize it was that pervasive.

irrational or not, i'm still "mad" at kashi.




kalikshama -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:49:51 PM)

I don't think it's irrational. Once you grow to trust a brand you don't read its label each time you buy it and then they do sneaky shit like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_(soy_milk)#Controversy

...Silk brand soy milk was made using organic soybeans until early 2009 when Dean Foods switched to conventional soybeans while maintaining the same UPC barcodes and prices on the Silk products while replacing the word "organic" with "natural" on the Silk product packaging.

http://www.cornucopia.org/2009/10/off-target-major-retailer-accused-of-organic-improprieties-state-and-federal-complaints-allege-mislabeling/

...The Wisconsin-based farm policy research group discovered Target nationally advertised Silk soymilk in newspapers with the term “organic” pictured on the carton’s label, when in fact the manufacturer, Dean Foods, had quietly shifted their products away from organics.

Dean Foods, and its WhiteWave division, received media scrutiny, and industry condemnation, this past spring for not notifying retailers or changing the UPC codes, when they quietly switched to conventional soybeans in their core-products.

Dean/WhiteWave also received heat in the organic food and agriculture community when they decided to convert some of their Horizon products, the leading organic label in terms of sales volume, to cheaper “natural” (conventional) ingredients. “This really hit a nerve because one of these new Horizon products, Little Blends yogurt, is aimed specifically at toddlers, at an early stage of development, where the nutritional superiority of organic food, and its utility in avoiding chemical residues in our food, is so critically important,” Kastel added.

A front-page story in the Chicago Tribune in July outlined a consumer survey that showed the public was unclear about the difference between natural and organic labels and that some corporations, particularly Dean Foods, were taking advantage of the confusion in the marketplace.






kalikshama -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 4:54:11 PM)

Who owns Organic?

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MercTech -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 7:59:39 PM)

Please note, the word "NATURAL" has absolutely NO MEANING in product labeling. No regulatory organization defines "NATURAL" when applied to food products. You can call anything "natural" and be legal. Hey, it exists therefore it is in nature and natural, right?

At one time, just to illustrate the point, I kept the label off one of the large bags of shredded cheese you often see used on salad bars. The product was "All Natural Processed American Cheese Food".... when you read the fine print on the label, it was congealed cottonseed oil with orange food coloring and synthetic cheese flavoring.

Learn to read the fine print. And, for my palate, Kashi went from being a tasty but expensive imported product to being a soggy nasty gloopy inedible mess several years ago.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 9:05:50 PM)

While the use of altered soybeans etc is deplorable, people are stupid. Sure, Kelloggs and Dean's are taking advantage, there's a world of uneducated consumers to take advantage of!




tj444 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 9:27:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

While the use of altered soybeans etc is deplorable, people are stupid. Sure, Kelloggs and Dean's are taking advantage, there's a world of uneducated consumers to take advantage of!

no, I dont think its just uneducated consumers.. its also as Kalikshama has said, people find a product they like and keep buying it, they come to trust it, unaware of changes that have been made to it.. for instance.. one Kashi cereal I used to buy had a design of 3 joined circles, one circle listed a certain amount of protein, another circle a certain amount of fiber and the third circle had something else that i cant remember now.. Thing is, one day i noticed the numbers in the circles were different,... it was a very subtle change and most people didnt notice it but i did, cuz i was counting calories, gms of protein, fiber, etc.. I even compared the box to one i still had at home and sure enough,.. the amount of protein dropped quite a bit... I know i heard about them being bought out around the same time that happened, and finding out they sold the company bothered me a lot.. cuz you know the new owner likely does not have the same motivations that the originators did.. [>:] The packaging has since been changed again..

eta- If it had not been for the prominance of those 3 circles it likely would have taken me a while to discover the change in the numbers in that cereal too.. so a company can easily & quietly change their formula or ingredients and consumers would have a hard time discovering the subtle changes unless they kept the old labels from food packages with the nutritional info and ingredient list.. and compared those labels each time they buy more of the same brand of foods..




tj444 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 10:03:14 PM)

And more trickery afoot!.. they are trying to get a new name for high fructose corn syrup but so far cant get it approved.. I doubt they will stop trying tho.. [>:]

http://news.yahoo.com/fda-rejects-name-high-fructose-corn-syrup-232604735--finance.html




LadyHibiscus -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/30/2012 10:21:40 PM)

The changes in products are definitely bad, I stopped using Burts Bees stuff when the product quality changed, and later found that the company had been bought out. I am a label reader though, so if something seems off, I am going to check the label or just stop using it.




tj444 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/31/2012 5:25:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
The changes in products are definitely bad, I stopped using Burts Bees stuff when the product quality changed, and later found that the company had been bought out. I am a label reader though, so if something seems off, I am going to check the label or just stop using it.

sure if you still have the previous one and can compare but for me, many times the last can or package has been used.. but this makes me think that i should be keeping the complete labels/package in a file to compare and more easily notice subtle changes in the ingredient list, package wording/design and nutritional info.. dam.. grrrrrr...




LaTigresse -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/31/2012 7:08:48 AM)

And good luck when you contact a company to complain.




Missokyst -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/31/2012 8:34:29 AM)

FR
:) Soylent Green was a natural product.




tj444 -> RE: "Natural" Kashi cereal uses Roundup-ready soybeans; Kellog spins (5/31/2012 10:55:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

And good luck when you contact a company to complain.

They know what they are doing, they have already weighed the pros and cons and the money they will make with their changes & likely know exactly how many customers they will lose.. Do you think it does anything to contact the company to complain? cuz i dont, imo you would just get a form letter/email back blah, blah, blah.. its about the money and thats it.. and if they lose a few customers they are probably still ahead, money wise..




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